Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Gavlor wrote: »

IanVW wrote: »

So wonder who might be in the running
Anthony daly
Fergal Hartley
Dj Carey
Sean Power
Peter Quelly
Fintan o connor
Jason ryan
Ken Mcgrath
Any others feel free to add:)

Knock the bottom 4 from that list straight away

And the top two

davidx40 wrote: »

Donal og Cusack should be number one man on list ....fantastic hurling brain ....

Don't get this Donal Og thing at all. All great with his colourful statistics and charts in his suits in the RTE studio but the actual facts are he spent two years in Clare as coach alongside Davy Fitzgerald one year and the new management another year and Clare performanced terribly whilst he was there doing all the coaching. He hasn't got a sniff with any inter-county team in Cork.

It's only this year since Donal has left that Clare seem to be playing with some level of freedom and confidence.

The other point I would make is Donal Og has never managed a team at any level at inter-county.

I think a joint ticket if it could be brokered of Anthony Daly as manager with Mattie Kenny as coach with two solid local selectors the likes of Eoin Murphy, Fergal Hartley or Tony Browne would be an outstanding management team. Daly would bring huge drive, inspiration and totally re-energise the entire setup whilst Mattie Kenny would have them brilliantly coached and tactically set up very well. Just look at how he got Cuala setup and hurling is evidence in itself and what Daly done in Dublin was magnificent, Dublins best hurling was achieved under Daly winning a league, Leinster title and getting to within one puck of an All-Ireland final.

However we have two chances of the Waterford county board having the foresight, vision and wherewithal to achieve getting this type of management team....slim and none.

KevIRL wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/anthony-daly/dereks-winning-approach-was-laced-with-class-and-dignity-472097.html

Anthony Daly rules himself out of the running for the Waterford job.

Great news ,

I'd pick on a 2 year contract

Sean Power- Manager
John Allen (or someone of that calibre)- mentor
Paul Flynn, Eoin Murphy and Eoin Kelly- Selectors

We also need an experienced Fitness coach

Surprised no mention of Pauric Fanning who is with Wexford as a selector or Jimmy Meaney (Mt Sion and former Waterford minor manager)

Best of luck to the under 21s tonight (deferred coverage on TG4). Huge ask to win

PTH2009 wrote: »

I'd pick on a 2 year contract

Sean Power- Manager
John Allen (or someone of that calibre)- mentor
Paul Flynn, Eoin Murphy and Eoin Kelly- Selectors

We also need an experienced Fitness coach

Surprised no mention of Pauric Fanning who is with Wexford as a selector or Jimmy Meaney (Mt Sion and former Waterford minor manager)

Best of luck to the under 21s tonight (deferred coverage on TG4). Huge ask to win

Dumb and Dumber :o

Deiseen wrote: »

Wish I knew! There are obviously managers out there who have won All-Irelands but doesn't look like our CC's budget can afford any of them.

Any millionaires want to chip in and help out

Isn't it a volunteer role ??

PTH2009 wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

Wish I knew! There are obviously managers out there who have won All-Irelands but doesn't look like our CC's budget can afford any of them.

Any millionaires want to chip in and help out

Isn't it a volunteer role ??

It very well could be but they will want resources to train the team, which the county board don't have.

Deiseen wrote: »

dzer2 wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

While Anthony Daly did well with Dublin (some years, they got knocked out by Antrim in one), we either need a Waterford man with serious potential or a proven AI winning manager from outside. 
Daly had a bad time with Clare and his only success outside of Dublin, is two club titles with a club in Kerry.

Thought he did a great job with Clare to be honest

Ok, he got them to two semi finals, can't argue with that and I'm not saying it's bad. But they did not do well in the opening stages of Munster and we need someone who has won the big one and knows what it takes.

Can you put some name's to the people who know what it takes.

Wish I knew! There are obviously managers out there who have won All-Irelands but doesn't look like our CC's budget can afford any of them.

To me there are only 2 Cody and Gavin all the rest can't get consistency apart from Tipp and Galway the other counties are robbing the forwards to sort out defence problems. While KK have a few defence issues I think Cody is getting to grips with them and next year they will be back on the wagon

Blaas4life wrote: »

Billy Nolan in goals,Dara lyons of abbeyside.....and that lynch lad from passage is supposedly good (

Derek Lyons wouldn’t be happy with you saying Darragh is Abbeyside 😂 He’s Dungarvan and played under 21 as a minor 3/4 years ago when his father was manager and of course won the All-Ireland 2 years ago. He’s a great prospect for midfield but lacks size and strength but is brave and an outstanding hurler!

Conor Prunty is a big loss as he would have been centre back but I had heard he was on the way to recovery, pity as he’s had a lot of injuries.

Billy Nolan will be second choice goalie next year on the senior panel, another great prospect.

deise08 wrote: »

Think the lads themselves should be the first to be asked who they would like to work with.

Would also like to see Derek stay around in the background somehow.

Jesus no, he,s done enough

Motivator wrote: »

Yes they did come close, they’d have won the All Ireland in 2004 if it wasn’t for bad luck on the day against Kilkenny. The whole fiasco with the travel to Dublin on the morning of the game threw the players all out of whack. Add in the fact Mullane was missing that day and the conditions were poor enough. Kilkenny only scored 3-11 and our over reliance on Flynner probably killed us. I can remember Paul O Brien going to latch on a breaking ball about 30 yards from goal and losing his footing at the last second. If he had stayed on his feet he did have been one on one with McGarry, I think we were three points down at the time. We lost by a goal in the end and Kilkenny were well beaten in he Final by a Cork team that we’d beaten in the Munster Final. That team was as close as we came to an All Ireland and it was our best chance.

Another poster who has memory loss from last years All Ireland :o

Tramore84 wrote: »

Not in favour of someone from outside the county who does not have senior intercounty management experience. We can't have fellas learning on the job.

Think there is an argument to appoint a person from within the county who does not have senior experience. Not ideal but if we cannot promote our own then that is a pretty bad verdict on our ourselves. I like Fergal Hartley but he has not succeeded as a manager with Waterford underage - thinking of the U21s. Derek was so close to the players maybe a different style might pay dividends. Maybe Anthony Cunningham?. Hopefully the C Board will get the right person soon.

Would someone looking in be put off by the County Board?. They do not look like they know what they are doing. I believe the players are there to go and win an AI within the next few years.

Tipp and Clare always hire within and have promoted former underage coaches to senior management

I wonder will tonight's performance in the under 21s enhance/lower Sean Powers chances of getting the senior job ??

Derek Lyons, Jimmy Meaney and Liam O Connor (he managed the minors a few years ago) are prob the most successful underage managers outside of Sean Power the last few years. Fergal Hartley and Peter Quelly have done it at club level but failed at intercounty underage when they had the jobs. Who else locally is there who would not be a rookie

Paul Flynn never managed a senior club. Ken McGrath had a bad enough time managing the Mount Sion seniors.