Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

deiseach · 19-06-2018 12:11PM

decies wrote: »

Tom Murphy saying on WLR that the county board should resign on mass the way they have handed the walsh park fiasco !! #catamongstthepigeons

The Dunhill Jacobites still dreaming of the return of the Old Pretender. Good luck with that.

Gavlor · 19-06-2018 12:35PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Brendan Cummins 8/11 fav on PP. Sean power 7/2.

Dear god no

Deise boii · 19-06-2018 12:41PM

I really think they should go all out and try and get Mattie Kenny the Cuala manager. Think he would be the ideal candidate. Supposed be meticulous in his planning and organising, plays an attractive brand of hurling too and is successful.

Motivator · 19-06-2018 12:54PM

thesaturdayman wrote: »

are you for the birds re the u21?

Myself, Eamon Keane & Val Doonican could have managed that team to win the u21, with Matt Keane corner back too. They were absolutely head and shoulders above anything.

Keep in mind the majority of that team were on the senior panel for 1-2 years at this stage and plenty of the conditioning work done as part of that set up.

Not to take from the achievement, which it seems I am, it was fantastic, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Has never managed an adult team in any grade in his life over a season. I wouldn't be against him being part of a set up, but lets have some perspective here.

You can’t manage to tip a winner in Tramore never mind manage a team. Go away out of that.

maximo31 · 19-06-2018 01:04PM

Donal Og Cusack.......

cul beag · 19-06-2018 01:05PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Brendan Cummins 8/11 fav on PP. Sean power 7/2.

Ya just saw that now. Working under Fintan O Connor hardly exudes confidence!

garv123 · 19-06-2018 01:11PM

Buff Egan 500-1 on PP

:D:D:pac:

mickmackmcgoo · 19-06-2018 01:15PM

garv123 wrote:

Buff Egan 500-1 on PP

Back him each way:)

KevIRL · 19-06-2018 01:17PM

garv123 wrote: »

Buff Egan 500-1 on PP :D:D:pac:

Gone into 150/1 already. Must be serious money going on him...

enoughtaken · 19-06-2018 01:23PM

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The Waterford u21 Hurling Team to face Cork tomorrow night in the Munster Semi Final has been named..[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]1. Billy Nolan (Roanmore)
2. John Curran (Dungarvan)
3. Mikey Daykin (Mount Sion)[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
4. Darragh Lynch (Passage)
5. Calum Lyons (Ballyduff Lower)
6. Jordan Henley (Tallow)
7. Garry Cullinane (Passage)
8. Andrew Casey (Ballyduff Upper)
9. Mikey Mahony (Ballygunner)
10. Eddie Meaney (De La Salle)
11. Peter Hogan (Ballygunner)
12. John Kennedy (Mount Sion)
13. John Paul Lucey (Shamrocks)
14. Darragh Lyons (Dungarvan)
15. Neil Montgomery (Abbeyside)[/font][/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Best of Luck to Sean Power, his management team and all the panel![/font][/font]

supernova5 · 19-06-2018 02:47PM

The Dalai Lama with Donald Trump and Prince Charles at 300 to 1 would be a good aul wager

spideyman92 · 19-06-2018 04:57PM

supernova5 wrote: »

The Dalai Lama with Donald Trump and Prince Charles at 300 to 1 would be a good aul wager

Sure Zidane is a free man now. He might give it a shot.

Gavlor · 19-06-2018 05:01PM

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

Paddy Joe mentioning having a new manager in by late september/October by county final time . Typical county board attitude. It needs to be done quicker than that or players will start to drift away . Club members really need to take a look at who they are nominating as county board delegates etc.

Drift where?

thesultan · 19-06-2018 05:40PM

willbeuptuesday wrote: »

Well said Tom Murphy, he knows what we need.

It's all well and good saying the county board are no good, I'm fairly certain that anyone here who is part of their club committe who wanted to go foward as county board representative who have no bother going foward and going..

thesultan · 19-06-2018 05:42PM

I'd be fairly certain that we would be rank outsiders tomorrow for the 21 game..

Anyone know the last time we didn't have a senior starter on the under twenty one team?

davidx40 · 19-06-2018 05:52PM

Donal og Cusack should be number one man on list ....fantastic hurling brain ....

cul beag · 19-06-2018 06:06PM

Brendan Cummins is favorite on what basis though? What experience has he? We have to be doing better than that.

JustJoe7240 · 19-06-2018 06:10PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Gone into 150/1 already. Must be serious money going on him...

Just had a quick look but overround would have been off, No way there's any smart money going on him

KevIRL · 19-06-2018 06:32PM

cul beag wrote: »

Brendan Cummins is favorite on what basis though? What experience has he? We have to be doing better than that.

These things are a joke market who's only real purpose is to give the bookies publicity. I wouldn't read anything into the odds.

KevIRL · 19-06-2018 06:34PM

thesultan wrote: »

I'd be fairly certain that we would be rank outsiders tomorrow for the 21 game..

Anyone know the last time we didn't have a senior starter on the under twenty one team?

Cork 1/9 and the handicap is 7 points so yep, rank outsiders is right

Motivator · 19-06-2018 07:15PM

cul beag wrote: »

Brendan Cummins is favorite on what basis though? What experience has he? We have to be doing better than that.

It’s based on hearsay and speculation. Someone in Paddy Power doing up that market has the same knowledge as any of us speculating here. Twitter and Google are a Paddy Power trader’s bible when it comes to these type of bets.

They know no more or less than anyone at this stage. If someone was to go in to Paddy Power and ask for a bet on Jim Greene then there’d be a panic and his name would be added to that list. Don’t forget, the person doing up this market isn’t from Waterford. They could be from Leitrim or Donegal and would have no inside knowledge of Waterford hurling.

SW1985 · 19-06-2018 07:27PM

enoughtaken wrote: »

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The Waterford u21 Hurling Team to face Cork tomorrow night in the Munster Semi Final has been named..[/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]1. Billy Nolan (Roanmore)
2. John Curran (Dungarvan)
3. Mikey Daykin (Mount Sion)[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]
4. Darragh Lynch (Passage)
5. Calum Lyons (Ballyduff Lower)
6. Jordan Henley (Tallow)
7. Garry Cullinane (Passage)
8. Andrew Casey (Ballyduff Upper)
9. Mikey Mahony (Ballygunner)
10. Eddie Meaney (De La Salle)
11. Peter Hogan (Ballygunner)
12. John Kennedy (Mount Sion)
13. John Paul Lucey (Shamrocks)
14. Darragh Lyons (Dungarvan)
15. Neil Montgomery (Abbeyside)[/font][/font]
[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif][font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Best of Luck to Sean Power, his management team and all the panel![/font][/font]

So who can tell me anything about these lads. Who should I look out for?

Deiseen · 19-06-2018 07:40PM

Motivator wrote: »

cul beag wrote: »

Brendan Cummins is favorite on what basis though? What experience has he? We have to be doing better than that.

It’s based on hearsay and speculation. Someone in Paddy Power doing up that market has the same knowledge as any of us speculating here. Twitter and Google are a Paddy Power trader’s bible when it comes to these type of bets.

They know no more or less than anyone at this stage. If someone was to go in to Paddy Power and ask for a bet on Jim Greene then there’d be a panic and his name would be added to that list. Don’t forget, the person doing up this market isn’t from Waterford. They could be from Leitrim or Donegal and would have no inside knowledge of Waterford hurling.

Im not making out like guys doing the odds know the Waterford hurling scene inside out. But if it was as random and clueless as you say then the most likely candidate to us could have crazy odds, like or 10/1 or something, and they would lose a tonne of cash when he gets the job. A lot of effort goes into researching these markets for the specific aim of not losing money.

The punters do the rest of the work for the odds.

Gavlor · 19-06-2018 07:42PM

Just spend the next week or so in ladcrokes in the sq Dungarvan, a certain co board chairman is certain to be in at some stage!

KevIRL · 19-06-2018 07:44PM

Deiseen wrote: »

Im not making out like guys doing the odds know the Waterford hurling scene inside out. But if it was as random and clueless as you say then the most likely candidate to us could have crazy odds, like or 10/1 or something, and they would lose a tonne of cash when he gets the job. A lot of effort goes into researching these markets for the specific aim of not losing money.

The punters do the rest of the work for the odds.

You can be sure they won't lose a tonne of cash on this market. They won't take any sort of big bets. They will quickly slash odds, restrict bets and/or close the market if anything odd occurs.

For example Paul Flynn is 12/1. Say I had inside knowledge and wanted to make 'a fortune'. The max bet they will permit on him is €19.04. They are well covered

Motivator · 19-06-2018 07:47PM

Deiseen wrote: »

Im not making out like guys doing the odds know the Waterford hurling scene inside out. But if it was as random and clueless as you say then the most likely candidate to us could have crazy odds, like or 10/1 or something, and they would lose a tonne of cash when he gets the job. A lot of effort goes into researching these markets for the specific aim of not losing money.

The punters do the rest of the work for the odds.

It is as simple as I have suggested though. Also, they wouldn’t lose a tonne of cash as the most anyone would get on any of those names is about €100 and then they’ll take the market down or shorten that person to an unbackabke price.

This is a novelty bet and as such the liability would be very low as they know how easily these type of markets could be manipulated by the public. Richie Foley used to work with Paddy Power and another Waterford chap (involved with DLS I think) used to work in the quants department in their head office too. Both have left the company I think but you can be sure they would have been asked their opinions on what was happening down in Waterford if they were still there!

KevIRL · 19-06-2018 07:52PM

Motivator wrote: »

It is as simple as I have suggested though. Also, they wouldn’t lose a tonne of cash as the most anyone would get on any of those names is about €100 and then they’ll take the market down or shorten that person to an unbackabke price.

This is a novelty bet and as such the liability would be very low as they know how easily these type of markets could be manipulated by the public. Richie Foley used to work with Paddy Power and another Waterford chap (involved with DLS I think) used to work in the quants department in their head office too. Both have left the company I think but you can be sure they would have been asked their opinions on what was happening down in Waterford if they were still there!

The only one I can get over 100 on is Cummins at 11/10. Sean power second fav at 7/2 = max bet of €63.04

puzl · 19-06-2018 07:57PM

Like what was already said. Novelty bets are free pr for the bookies.

It'll all.collapse quickly when there's a hint of am inkling.

Motivator · 19-06-2018 08:02PM

KevIRL wrote: »

The only one I can get over 100 on is Cummins at 11/10. Sean power second fav at 7/2 = max bet of €63.04

Yeah and if they accepted any of those bets the market would be reformed. As they’re the only company pricing this market up at the moment they’ve free reign to make whatever name they want favourite. Putting Brendan Cummins in as a money on favourite for the job creates a lot of talk and their name is involved in every conversation.

Blaas4life · 19-06-2018 08:05PM

SW1985 wrote: »

So who can tell me anything about these lads. Who should I look out for?

Billy Nolan in goals,Dara lyons of abbeyside.....and that lynch lad from passage is supposedly good (

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