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Should Dublin Football be split?

  • 05-06-2018 6:55pm
    #1
    OldMrBrennan83
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    Should Dublin Football be Split? 379 votes

    Yes, and I'm from Dublin
    0% 0 votes
    No, and I'm from Dublin
    15% 58 votes
    Yes, and I'm NOT from Dublin
    51% 195 votes
    No, and I'm NOT from Dublin
    33% 126 votes


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  • #2
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Is it the summer already?


  • #3
    Mutant z
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Absolutely not its up to others to improve their own game not stifle the best team and no im not from Dublin in case you may be wondering.


  • #4
    MattressRick
    Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    This has been discussed to death in the media


  • #5
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #6
    munster87
    Registered Users Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭munster87


    No and I'm not from Dublin.


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  • #7
    The_Honeybadger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,207 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    No as it would undo all the good work done in Dublin football the past decade. A full championship restructure and proper investment in other counties is what is needed imo.


  • #8
    Are Am Eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Already happened.
    We now have Dublin in Ireland and North American Dublin.


  • #9
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #10
    ProudDUB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Yes.

    By all means split us up.

    Then it will be Dublin A vs Dublin B in every single All Ireland final until the end of time.

    The planet will be spared all the 'Mayo God help us' beal bochting, when they lose yet another final. We'll also be spared all the Kerry whinging that their human rights have been breached by their not being handed the Sam Maguire cup at the start of every year.

    It's a win win for all concerned really. Dunno why no one thought of it sooner.

    Where do I go to sign a petition to make this happen?


  • #11
    ahnowbrowncow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Yes.

    By all means split us up.

    Then it will be Dublin A vs Dublin B in every single All Ireland final until the end of time.

    The planet will be spared all the 'Mayo God help us' beal bochting, when they lose yet another final. We'll also be spared all the Kerry whinging that their human rights have been breached by their not being handed the Sam Maguire cup at the start of every year.

    It's a win win for all concerned really. Dunno why no one thought of it sooner.

    Where do I go to sign a petition to make this happen?

    Well then we'd just have to split both of them in half and keep doing so until there's an all Ireland final without a Dublin team in it.


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  • #12
    Amprodude
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    Should Kerry be split too?


  • #13
    odyssey06
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    Kilkenny won 8 out of 10 All Irelands, some of them were over as contests after 15 minutes, and nobody talked about a split.

    Dublin win a few All Irelands by small margins and the sore losers come up with this nonsense.
    It's pathetic, not one ounce of it is motivated by the love of the game or the best interests of the sport.

    Any county which proposes it should be thrown out of the All Ireland.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #14
    jon1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    This ****e again!

    Dublin having a good run as did Kilkenny, Kerry....etc in the past. Why the sudden call for a split?


  • #15
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,741 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Dublin haven’t always dominated so remember this. The population advantage has always been there. Dubs Leinster rivals Meath Kildare Laois Westmeath have all gone backwards in recent years at the same time Dubs hve progressed


  • #16
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Amprodude wrote: »
    Should Kerry be split too?

    One is unbearable. Imagine two of ye.


  • #17
    dobman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    One is unbearable. Imagine two of ye.

    Here don't be lumping that langer in with us. He's a Cork man and they can keep him..

    Splitting Dublin is absolute nonsense and this thread was created to just stir things up, the OP states he doesn't want Dublin split so why even bring it up.


  • #18
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #19
    Peatys
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    So it's the population that gives the advantage? So the Dublin hurlers are top dogs every year, yeah?


  • #20
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Here don't be lumping that langer in with us. He's a Cork man and they can keep him..

    Splitting Dublin is absolute nonsense and this thread was created to just stir things up, the OP states he doesn't want Dublin split so why even bring it up.

    Is he really?

    I always had him pegged as a long grass dweller. The more you know...

    ---

    Patww is doing us service. Another thread was about to get derailed earlier with Dublin split nonsense so it was suggest a dedicated split cesspool be made to take the swill.

    ---

    Shocked at how one-sided it is against the split tbh.

    Stoner and Slattsy the 2 obvious traitors to the cause. Heffo is turning in his grave.


  • #21
    TrueGael
    Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭TrueGael


    Yawn the Kerry and KK thing brought upon again

    Yawn it's Meath Kildare Westmeath fault

    Yawn it's just a golden phase (for our mens and women's Footballers, our hurling and Camogie, clubs yada yada yada yada) and it'll soon change (we promise!!!!)


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  • #22
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Peatys wrote: »
    So it's the population that gives the advantage? So the Dublin hurlers are top dogs every year, yeah?

    Yeah well some people don't seem to realise there are other sports played here, sure in Southside Dublin rugby is the national sport! Seven of the Leinster starting fifteen were born in Dublin.

    The last Kerryman to represent Republic of Ireland was back in the 1960s. Sean Maguire became the first Kilkenny man since the 1930s to don the green jersey!

    https://www.balls.ie/football/the-last-irish-soccer-international-from-every-county-in-the-country-302925

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #23
    doc_17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,972 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Of course they shouldn’t. But every county should be treated the same. That means that when Donegal/Mayo/Kerry/Tyrone play Dublin in the Championship they should have the same change of home advantage as Dublin have.

    I couldn’t give a s**t about capacity. Some people can’t see it, is that worse than the removal of equity?


  • #24
    TrueGael
    Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭TrueGael


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Yeah well some people don't seem to realise there are other sports played here, sure in Southside Dublin rugby is the national sport! Seven of the Leinster starting fifteen were born in Dublin.

    The last Kerryman to represent Republic of Ireland was back in the 1960s. Sean Maguire became the first Kilkenny man since the 1930s to don the green jersey!

    https://www.balls.ie/football/the-last-irish-soccer-international-from-every-county-in-the-country-302925

    Some people don't seem to realise there is a million and a half people in Dublin and growing to 2 million and loads of jobs and in other places a fraction of the jobs, population and infrastructure to play said sports on a wide scale


  • #25
    Are Am Eye
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    TrueGael wrote: »
    Yawn the Kerry and KK thing brought upon again

    Yawn it's Meath Kildare Westmeath fault

    Yawn it's just a golden phase (for our mens and women's Footballers, our hurling and Camogie, clubs yada yada yada yada) and it'll soon change (we promise!!!!)

    yawn sore losers


  • #26
    odyssey06
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    TrueGael wrote: »
    Some people don't seem to realise there is a million and a half people in Dublin and growing to 2 million and loads of jobs and in other places a fraction of the jobs, population and infrastructure to play said sports on a wide scale

    The population of Dublin is not even one third of the total population of the Republic of Ireland. So when you say a fraction, you're actually talking about the majority of the jobs, population and infrastructure of the country.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #27
    grbear
    Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭grbear


    At the moment, no.

    If at some point in the future someone produces a really well constructed study that shows beyond all reasonable doubt that Dublin being dominant in football is harming the game and that splitting the county will improve things for everyone then break out the cleavers.


    With that said, I am considering running in the next general election with my sole piece of policy being a campaign to make the "so and so should be split in two" joke into a hangable offence. Or maybe death by log splitter, that's probably more appropriate. Either way, it's something that stopped being funny years ago, not that it was very funny to begin with.


  • #28
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #29
    listermint
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    Patww79 wrote: »
    The Gael is here at last. Now it'll become obvious why this was necessary.

    Yawn, do you not get bored of this nonsense.


    I mean it's just a waste of electricity making a thread with this crap in it.


  • #30
    TrueGael
    Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭TrueGael


    Yawn thou shall not even hint at criticising the Almighty Juggernaut

    Yawn we have absolutely no advantages over anybody else and if you even hint at an advantage you will be silenced Kim Jong Un style

    Yawn how about we introduce a B championship so they won't get slaughtered by the Juggernaut and end up losing their best players to commiting to IC because of demoralizing humiliations in the Coliseum

    Yawn from a weaker county but instead opt to support and worship the Big Beast instead and glory in their bought success

    Yawn how about we merge weaker counties and to hell with their identities but silence if you dare split up our conglomerate behemoth


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  • #31
    Peatys
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    TrueGael wrote: »
    Some people don't seem to realise there is a million and a half people in Dublin and growing to 2 million and loads of jobs and in other places a fraction of the jobs, population and infrastructure to play said sports on a wide scale
    When Kerry and Meath had decent teams the population of Dublin didn't seem to be much of an advantage.

    1995 to 2011 what happend, Dubs couldn't even make the final, never mind win it..

    Population all fecked off out on the lash?


  • #32
    TrueGael
    Registered Users Posts: 294 ✭✭TrueGael


    Peatys wrote: »
    When Kerry and Meath had decent teams the population of Dublin didn't seem to be much of an advantage.

    1995 to 2011 what happend, Dubs couldn't even make the final, never mind win it..

    Population all fecked off out on the lash?

    Population while a huge advantage , isn't in itself enough to dominate as the likes of China and India show

    It's when you factor in the millions upon millions which the GAA pumped in added to the millions pumped by superfan Bertie on top of the fact you already had the biggest population and market which to attract mega sponsorship deals

    All the while everybody else got **** all when they made similar funding requests which os how you create a monopoly which looks impossible to reverse now. The repeated humilations have created a sense of total apathy in the GAA elsewhere essentially there is a lost generation of potential GAA fans and future players in these counties as they have no interest in competing in a spoet where is it so lop sided, the same will happen on a national scale given time



    Quite a few posters love the ol' ad hominem attacks without contributing to the debate or acknowledging the issues at hand. I mean look at the desperate decline in attendances in comparison to the start of the millennium, we can't all be wrong


  • #33
    odyssey06
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    That's how much sense it makes. None. It's laughable to even think about it.

    It should be laughed at.

    To use an example from other sports Portugal (10m) beat France (60m) in France in the 2016 European Championship soccer final, their first ever title.

    Had they lost and urged FIFA to split up France they'd have become a global laughing stock.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #34
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #35
    the_syco
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    How about; you can only play for Dublin if at least one of your parents is from Dublin? :pac:

    Also, does Croaker give everyone else much in the way of funding?


  • #36
    rushfan
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    Should New Zealand be split into the North & South islands??? Preposterous.


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  • #37
    Amprodude
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    dobman88 wrote: »
    Here don't be lumping that langer in with us. He's a Cork man and they can keep him..

    Splitting Dublin is absolute nonsense and this thread was created to just stir things up, the OP states he doesn't want Dublin split so why even bring it up.

    Who said I was from Cork?


  • #38
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Mod Warning

    Please desist from calling posters muppets,sore losers etc.

    Both side of the arguments deserve a fair and reasoned hearing.Constructive debate on the subject only.


  • #39
    keane2097
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    Amprodude wrote: »
    Who said I was from Cork?

    You did...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107114197&postcount=795


  • #40
    nice_guy80
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    rushfan wrote: »
    Should New Zealand be split into the North & South islands??? Preposterous.

    You are comparimg a nation with a small capital region


  • #41
    dobman88
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    keane2097 wrote: »
    You did...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107114197&postcount=795

    Ah feck ya Keane. I wanted to dig for something more substantial :pac:


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  • #42
    Amprodude
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    keane2097 wrote: »
    You did...

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107114197&postcount=795

    I support Cork I never said I was from Cork.


  • #43
    dobman88
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    Obviously no county should be split or amalgamated but a tiered Championship should definitely happen. It has served Kerry hurling very well playing in a tiered championship.

    It might take a few years for some purists from weaker counties to get excited about it but if their county won an all Ireland and moved up a grade you can be guaranteed they'd be celebrated, and rightly so.


  • #44
    keane2097
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    It's very clear both from this straw poll and from talking to people about GAA anywhere and everywhere that there is no appetite for this and the only people putting it forward are online trolls and those without a clue.

    I for one would be in favour of mod warnings and bans for bringing it up during the Championship season if it's not out of line to say so. I'm sure if the mods were to look back over the last several years at posts putting forward splitting Dublin the vast, vast majority of them would be obvious troll attempts. Open it up in the winter when we've less to talk about (if we must) but the summertime in here is bad enough without thread after thread of weirdos and trolls throwing this grenade and excitable Dubs reacting to it.

    I would hazard a guess that 0% of the genuine regulars here are interested in it.


  • #45
    keane2097
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    Amprodude wrote: »
    I support Cork I never said I was from Cork.

    Yeah, right


  • #46
    OldMrBrennan83
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  • #47
    Amprodude
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    keane2097 wrote: »
    Yeah, right

    Not from Cork originally but living here now. Anyway back on topic. No county should be split. It's up to the other county's to catch up.


  • #48
    salmocab
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    Has anyone actually thought what splitting Dublin in half achieve?
    It puts one more strong team into Leinster so basically 2 teams who have a good chance of getting to the final and 2 teams who would probably be in the shake up from super 8s on. The only people who gain really are the likes of mayo and Kerry as it’s just more likely they’d win the AI, it doesn’t mean Laois are going to have a better chance.


  • #49
    BonnieSituation
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    keane2097 wrote: »
    It's very clear both from this straw poll and from talking to people about GAA anywhere and everywhere that there is no appetite for this and the only people putting it forward are online trolls and those without a clue.

    I for one would be in favour of mod warnings and bans for bringing it up during the Championship season if it's not out of line to say so. I'm sure if the mods were to look back over the last several years at posts putting forward splitting Dublin the vast, vast majority of them would be obvious troll attempts. Open it up in the winter when we've less to talk about (if we must) but the summertime in here is bad enough without thread after thread of weirdos and trolls throwing this grenade and excitable Dubs reacting to it.

    We almost had our annual agreement. ;)
    I would hazard a guess that 0% of the genuine regulars here are interested in it.

    I'd wager you're spot on.


  • #50
    keane2097
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    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I'd be happy enough with all of it being confined to one thread either. It was just a suggestion, apologies if your jimmies got a bit rustled :(


  • #51
    keane2097
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    We almost had our annual agreement. ;)

    Honestly I put that bit in solely to annoy you :D


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