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What washing powder does Una Mulally use?

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  • #62
    DickSwiveller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    She's an insufferable blowhard with a grating voice.


  • #63
    Roger Mellie Man on the Telly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,116 ✭✭✭Roger Mellie Man on the Telly


    The Irish Times is getting worse all the time, some days I think if world war three was breaking out today , their only worry would be what would be the impact on property prices in Dublin. It is hardly a newspaper, it is a property magazine, with the addition of middle class people sharing their opinions about designer handbags and real estate prices. The only ever decent articles in there are republished ones out of the Financial Times


  • #64
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Gravelly wrote: »
    It's not an accusation, it's a simple statement of fact. See link I included in original post.

    Facts require proof. You made the simple statement, you provide the simple proof.

    I looked at your link and I think you're seeing what you want to see there. I found very little to back up your accusations.


  • #65
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »
    The Irish Times is getting worse all the time, some days I think if world war three was breaking out today , their only worry would be what would be the impact on property prices in Dublin. It is hardly a newspaper, it is a property magazine, with the addition of middle class people sharing their opinions about designer handbags and real estate prices. The only ever decent articles in there are republished ones out of the Financial Times


    Yes the paper's dependance on its property supplement seems to have fatally compromised it. The liberal-conservative dichotomy it presents is just a smoke-screen to disguise the fact that it's an establishment comic pushing the interests of property.


  • #66
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Facts require proof. You made the simple statement, you provide the simple proof.

    I looked at your link and I think you're seeing what you want to see there. I found very little to back up your accusations.

    Don't bother. They're not going to provide any proof. Half of this thread so far is people asking for posters to back up what they're saying and no-one has.


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  • #67
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Facts require proof. You made the simple statement, you provide the simple proof.

    I looked at your link and I think you're seeing what you want to see there. I found very little to back up your accusations.

    There's none so blind as those who will not see.


  • #68
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Yes the paper's dependance on its property supplement seems to have fatally compromised it. The liberal-conservative dichotomy it presents is just a smoke-screen to disguise the fact that it's an establishment comic pushing the interests of property.

    You mean on a Thursday? Or do you mean commercial property on a Wednesday? Property supplements are there only two days a week.

    The Irish Times isn't great. Like most Irish news sources it relies far too much on copy journalism. They simply don't have the resources, especially for international news.

    They do better in political and court reporting. And their opinion pages are Ok. I say ok, because there is some rubbish but they do have differing opinions, however it's still far better than the Indo.

    Edit: and they still have the best crossword of any Irish paper. :)


  • #69
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Gravelly wrote: »
    It's not an accusation, it's a simple statement of fact. See link I included in original post.

    Ehm no not good enough. Unless your ego is so blown up that you think something is a fact just because you said so.


  • #70
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Gosh, I wonder why anyone would possibly think it's important to keep talking about women's rights and equality. That c unting gee-bag should shut up and get a ride and stop harping on about things.

    Right lads?
    In fairness it's not uncommon (to say the least) to call a guy on the internet a virgin who lives in his mother's basement etc. But yes I know, it's different & worse when directed at women.


  • #71
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Ehm no not good enough. Unless your ego is so blown up that you think something is a fact just because you said so.
    Funny, that's what they accuse Mulally of being like.


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  • #72
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Grayson wrote: »
    Don't bother. They're not going to provide any proof. Half of this thread so far is people asking for posters to back up what they're saying and no-one has.

    For me it's just a general tone and set of assumptions in her articles that grate. For instance, at the weekend she was more or less saying that now we have abortion sorted, the next thing we must do is get that ridiculous bit out of the Constitution about no woman being forced, for economic reasons, to work outside the home.

    To Una that's just nonsense and putting women in their place. To many people it is something to aspire to, but needs rewording to reflect the fact that nowadays it is also acceptable for a father to be the stay at home parent.

    But in essence, there are many couples who find it stressful and draining to have to leave young children in crèches or with childminders, face long commutes, rush through dinner and bed time etc. and who would much rather if one parent could stay at home and look after the children themself. It is not something that would suit everyone, and every parent should have the right to work. But there are many parents (and let's be honest the majority are women) who really resent having to leave their children during the day to do a job they find boring or unrewarding, or who have so little left after the crèche fees are paid that they're working for buttons.
    There are also lots of newer communities that are being drained of any kind of life because all of the parents are out working all day, and all of the children are with childminders.

    We should be working towards some sort of balance of rights, and societal benefit. Not just blindly following one route.


  • #73
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Grayson wrote: »
    You mean on a Thursday? Or do you mean commercial property on a Wednesday? Property supplements are there only two days a week.

    While I agree with most of your post I think property articles started popping up a lot more often than just twice a week. If you look into their property section three houses on the market were added today, there is an opinion piece about buying a house added yesterday and advice column today. There is also stuff published on Saturday. Property must be a decent revenue generator for them because it is a lot more prevalent, a bit too prevalent.


  • #74
    Vladimir Poontang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Gosh, I wonder why anyone would possibly think it's important to keep talking about women's rights and equality. That c unting gee-bag should shut up and get a ride and stop harping on about things.

    Right lads?

    Right.


  • #75
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Has anyone ever seen Una Mullaly and Louise O Neill in the same room ?


  • #76
    Noel Uninterested Wrongdoing
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Noel Uninterested Wrongdoing


    Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »
    The Irish Times is getting worse all the time, some days I think if world war three was breaking out today , their only worry would be what would be the impact on property prices in Dublin. It is hardly a newspaper, it is a property magazine, with the addition of middle class people sharing their opinions about designer handbags and real estate prices. The only ever decent articles in there are republished ones out of the Financial Times

    Yeah i gave up on it when they started charging and my free articles allowance goes on property stuff out of curiosity.
    So i haven't read the columnists mentioned here


  • #77
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Reagan Many Acorn wrote: »
    For me it's just a general tone and set of assumptions in her articles that grate. For instance, at the weekend she was more or less saying that now we have abortion sorted, the next thing we must do is get that ridiculous bit out of the Constitution about no woman being forced, for economic reasons, to work outside the home.

    To Una that's just nonsense and putting women in their place. To many people it is something to aspire to, but needs rewording to reflect the fact that nowadays it is also acceptable for a father to be the stay at home parent.

    But in essence, there are many couples who find it stressful and draining to have to leave young children in crèches or with childminders, face long commutes, rush through dinner and bed time etc. and who would much rather if one parent could stay at home and look after the children themself. It is not something that would suit everyone, and every parent should have the right to work. But there are many parents (and let's be honest the majority are women) who really resent having to leave their children during the day to do a job they find boring or unrewarding, or who have so little left after the crèche fees are paid that they're working for buttons.
    There are also lots of newer communities that are being drained of any kind of life because all of the parents are out working all day, and all of the children are with childminders.

    We should be working towards some sort of balance of rights, and societal benefit. Not just blindly following one route.
    The article is in constitution and it did not stop all this happening. That article and the blasphemy one are archaic and a bit pointless. Constitution needs to be fit for purpose not some irrelevant historical document.


  • #78
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    meeeeh wrote: »
    The article is in constitution and it did not stop all this happening. That article and the blasphemy one are archaic and a bit pointless. Constitution needs to be fit for purpose not some irrelevant historical document.

    That wasn't my point. She was poo pooing the very idea that society should aspire to create conditions where a mother would be helped to stay at home and look after her children if she so wished. To her that was demeaning and belittling women - to many mothers it would be a wonderful thing.


  • #79
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Grayson wrote: »
    You mean on a Thursday? Or do you mean commercial property on a Wednesday? Property supplements are there only two days a week.

    The Irish Times isn't great. Like most Irish news sources it relies far too much on copy journalism. They simply don't have the resources, especially for international news.

    They do better in political and court reporting. And their opinion pages are Ok. I say ok, because there is some rubbish but they do have differing opinions, however it's still far better than the Indo.

    Edit: and they still have the best crossword of any Irish paper. :)

    I haven't tried the other paper's crosswords so I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt on that last one. I'm not a big fan of crosaire though.

    I mean that the paper is beholden to the interests of property, in part because of its vested interest in the money it makes off its property supplements. This stymies its ability to comment on matters of national importance, like whether volatile property bubbles are a good economic strategy.

    Resources affect all papers. As I said the IT has focused on views above news for a long time and is a worse paper for it. I think the Business Post and even the Irish parts of the Sunday Times do far better investigative reporting. I think it's closeness to the establishment makes it slow to pursue some stories. On balance I don't find it worth buying. Even though it has some excellent sections (business and technology) and journalists it seems to care little for them.


  • #80
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,348 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Una Mulally is not too dissimilar to Fintan O'Toole. Both write for the same paper. Both could be described as very liberal.
    This morning Fintan is suggesting that Amhrán na bhFiann is no longer suitable for the Ireland of today and should be changed.

    Why does Una get a thread and Fintan doesn't?*


    * For anyone who wants to tell me to go start a thread on Fintan if I want one, I don't. I'm curious on how they are similar yet viewed somewhat differently.


  • #81
    Gravelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Ehm no not good enough. Unless your ego is so blown up that you think something is a fact just because you said so.

    I do, thanks.


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  • #82
    Vladimir Poontang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Vladimir Poontang


    Fintan the Tool


  • #83
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,577 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    PARlance wrote: »
    Me first, please.

    Una: Does she drive you Doolally?

    Una, Dos, Tres Annoying?

    Com'on mods...


  • #84
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Una Mullally, I think she wants to appear as a strong woman, but she is a constant moaner which is not how I view a strong woman.
    A strong woman is someone like Taylor Swift, she was having photos taken with fans and one man stuck his hand right up the back of her skirt and touched her...before any of the #MeToo, she sued him for $1 to prove her point that he was guilty. She won her case, none of the drama of all the women who allowed men abuse them and did nothing and caused other women to get abused...
    I have no time for Una or the paper she writes for which is a campaigning newspaper a lot of the time.


  • #85
    BandMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Gosh, I wonder why anyone would possibly think it's important to keep talking about women's rights and equality. That c unting gee-bag should shut up and get a ride and stop harping on about things.

    Right lads?


    Her gender has nothing to do with it - there's plenty of males who could be (and are) called the same thing.


    I'll save you the bother of asking for one example, and give you double that: Chris Donoghue and George Hook.


    That's just for starters. So, you can park that sidetracking irrelevant distraction tactic.



    Classic "liberal" trick though, when someone says something that they don't agree with (i.e. in this case they don't like Una Mulally's columns) and they can't come back with any facts or arguments to refute the original argument, they try to divert it down another road (i.e. people don't like her or her columns because she is a woman). It's pathetic really.


  • #86
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    BandMember wrote: »
    Her gender has nothing to do with it - there's plenty of males who could be (and are) called the same thing.


    I'll save you the bother of asking for one example, and give you double that: Chris Donoghue and George Hook.


    That's just for starters. So, you can park that sidetracking irrelevant distraction tactic.



    Classic "liberal" trick though, when someone says something that they don't agree with (i.e. in this case they don't like Una Mulally's columns) and they can't come back with any facts or arguments to refute the original argument, they try to divert it down another road (i.e. people don't like her or her columns because she is a woman). It's pathetic really.

    I don’t like her because she’s a geebag. I love women in general... I even married one.


  • #87
    jon1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭jon1981


    Can we add Roe McDermott to this hate campaign?

    "Toxic masculinity" - what the actual....


  • #88
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    BandMember wrote: »
    Her gender has nothing to do with it - there's plenty of males who could be (and are) called the same thing.


    I'll save you the bother of asking for one example, and give you double that: Chris Donoghue and George Hook.

    Those are names, not examples of similar abuse.


  • #89
    razorblunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    meeeeh wrote: »
    No she does not.

    Insert name of the bin lorry she does write for then.


  • #90
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    BandMember wrote: »
    Her gender has nothing to do with it - there's plenty of males who could be (and are) called the same thing.


    I'll save you the bother of asking for one example, and give you double that: Chris Donoghue and George Hook.

    I searched Google for a mention of Chris Donoghue on boards.ie. Found this 4 year old thread. Nobody calling him a c*nt or a geebag, or suggesting he needs a shag, or anything like it.

    Worst he got is a few comments about his youthful appearance. As many people saying "good for him" as there are stating any dislike for the guy.


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  • #91
    BandMember
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Goodshape wrote: »
    Those are names, not examples of similar abuse.


    Wow. Are you serious?? Speechless at how you can't deal with or accept someone refuting your point.

    Both of those individuals have been the recipients of abuse here in the past. A quick search will confirm that. However, you might not want to do that though as it will blow your paper thin non-existent argument out of the water.


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