Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:13AM

tigger123 wrote: »

Between the SSM referendum and yesterday's the result the last few years have been incredibly important for Ireland.

Delighted to see young people so engaged in the political system and making their own decisions about their own futures.

Those young people so engaged in the political system as you say won't be in a polling station for the next election.
I saw the drop off first hand with the SSM/ election votes.
Had a hippy in my polling station Friday in his 30's saying it was his first time
Had another girl in her business suit , again in her 30's saying the same.

They were caught up with a cause. It's a far cry from being engaged.

C__MC · 27-05-2018 11:14AM

I see the three ulster counties are taking a small bashing on this. Especially donegal. Harsh on Monaghan Cavan as they did pass it/ close enough though

Sofiztikated · 27-05-2018 11:16AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I voted no.

Not because I don't care about women - but because the proposed legislation is too extreme.

I spent yesterday comforting my daughter and her partner because she had a miscarriage. It was an unplanned pregnancy - and they are both devastated.

Many "Yes" voters regard embryos as a "clump of cells".
I challenge you to say that to my daughters face. She is grieving for a baby. The gestational age was 5 weeks.

There was no reason another referendum couldn't have been held to cater for the hard cases.

There is no legislation being proposed to protect women against forced abortion.
There are no plans to increase support for women in crises pregnancies who do not want an abortion.

The proposed legislation will not effectively help the majority of women. It will merely present abortion as a solution for all the problems - which it is not, and never can be.

I voted no. Not because I don't care about women, but because I care enough to want better for them and their unborn babies. There is nothing shameful about that, and it speaks volumes that you would make such a triumphalist statement, TBH.

I'm sorry to hear about your daughter, losing a pregnancy to miscarriage is tough, whether a planned pregnancy, or an unplanned (but wanted) one.

But retaining the 8th wouldn't do anything to help in her case, but repealing will be able to help other women in different, but also tragic circumstances.

Making it illegal doesn't stop it from happening.

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2018 11:18AM

Muzzymor wrote: »

Might be able to help but first I have a question.
Do you want one for virtue signalling purposes?

As cruel coin says. A souvenir.

I liked the logo they came up with and have the window sticker on the van.

Much better than the ugly square yokes that just look like normal election posters.

I hadn't even thought of saving one till I saw someone on here mention it then the missus said she'd like to hold on to one. It'd the only one either of us have an interest in having.

CruelCoin · 27-05-2018 11:19AM

C__MC wrote: »

I see the three ulster counties are taking a small bashing on this. Especially donegal. Harsh on Monaghan Cavan as they did pass it/ close enough though

Don't go there!

Nothing extracts piss, vinegar and salt so much as a suggestion that some parts of the country are more backwards than others.

pitifulgod · 27-05-2018 11:19AM

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Those young people so engaged in the political system as you say won't be in a polling station for the next election.
I saw the drop off first hand with the SSM/ election votes.
Had a hippy in my polling station Friday in his 30's saying it was his first time
Had another girl in her business suit , again in her 30's saying the same.

They were caught up with a cause. It's a far cry from being engaged.

You're making a lot of generalisations about younger voters. I've voted on every issue and election since I gained right to vote 8 years ago. I was incredibly passionate about marriage referendum. But this is the first time I've ever canvassed. I'll most likely never canvass for a politician but I'm very much so engaged in the process and many other younger people are.

I also think young people should be praised for their passion for social issues. Even when it might not even impact them.

Fred Swanson · 27-05-2018 11:19AM

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Cody montana · 27-05-2018 11:20AM

Anything from John Waters yet or the rest of the no side?

27-05-2018 11:23AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Anything from John Waters yet or the rest of the no side?

Still awaiting his announcement as to where he's emigrating to.

Still waiting on John McGuirk to announce he's going to stick to his pledge not to get involved in political campaigns.

Declan Ganley has already been on saying it was a conspericy and he's not having his taxes used for the health service, so waiting on him to become a tax exile.

Save the 8th released a statement saying they will continue to prevent abortions anyway where ever it will be carried out in Ireland so read what you want from that.

uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:23AM

pitifulgod wrote: »

You're making a lot of generalisations about younger voters. I've voted on every issue and election since I gained right to vote 8 years ago. I was incredibly passionate about marriage referendum. But this is the first time I've ever canvassed. I'll most likely never canvass for a politician but I'm very much so engaged in the process and many other younger people are.

I also think young people should be praised for their passion for social issues. Even when it might not even impact them.

If they are so concerned for the country, let them get out and vote in the next GE.

For the SSM I saw turnout drop from 70%to under 50 in the same polling station. Young people were noticeable by their absence.

It was a similar increase on Friday.

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2018 11:24AM

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Those young people so engaged in the political system as you say won't be in a polling station for the next election.
I saw the drop off first hand with the SSM/ election votes.
Had a hippy in my polling station Friday in his 30's saying it was his first time
Had another girl in her business suit , again in her 30's saying the same.

They were caught up with a cause. It's a far cry from being engaged.

This has come up on the thread a couple of times I think. With a referendum you get an instant result. You get to know you were part of something that matter. Changed something . With an election you vote for someone and hope they go off and try to do something about the stuff you care about over the next few years. You may or may not ever hear about any of your issues again.

lawred2 · 27-05-2018 11:25AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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where's the but?

he didn't leave it at that surely

Fighting Tao · 27-05-2018 11:26AM

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Those young people so engaged in the political system as you say won't be in a polling station for the next election.
I saw the drop off first hand with the SSM/ election votes.
Had a hippy in my polling station Friday in his 30's saying it was his first time
Had another girl in her business suit , again in her 30's saying the same.

They were caught up with a cause. It's a far cry from being engaged.

Those damn millennials exercising both their right to vote and not to vote.

Cody montana · 27-05-2018 11:31AM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Still awaiting his announcement as to where he's emigrating to.

Still waiting on John McGuirk to announce he's going to stick to his pledge not to get involved in political campaigns.

Declan Ganley has already been on saying it was a conspericy and he's not having his taxes used for the health service, so waiting on him to become a tax exile"

Save the 8th released a statement saying they will continue to prevent abortions anyway where ever it will be carried out in Ireland so read what you want from that.

I’d nearly set up a Gofundme page to send him to North Korea or Neptune if we get enough donations.

Water John · 27-05-2018 11:33AM

It's the whole radical idea of democracy. Everyone's vote is equal, millenials and all.

uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:35AM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Those damn millennials exercising both their right to vote and not to vote.

Those same millennials will then complain about government policy effecting them when they never engaged with putting people into office who matched their ideals in the first place.

In the real world I don't engage in discussion with those moaning about the government who never voted

PhoenixParker · 27-05-2018 11:35AM

For any NUI grads (and a few other 3rd level places) anxious to see the back of Ronan Mullen, get yourself on the Seanad registry today.

http://www.nui.ie/elections/seanad-register.asp

27-05-2018 11:36AM

Cody montana wrote: »

I’d nearly set up a Gofundme page to send him to North Korea or Neptune if we get enough donations.

Hopefully by ferry or Ryanair

He might decide to go to the Philippines.

As long as the door hits him in the arse as he goes.

_Dara_ · 27-05-2018 11:36AM

Read a pro-lifer on Twitter saying that it’s not a landslide because 38% of people didn’t vote. How do people not get that anyone who doesn’t vote is forfeiting their right to be counted? And how does that tweeter know that all the non-voters would vote no?

Water John · 27-05-2018 11:37AM

We'll raise the voting age to 35 or even 40. Those young people are too easily swayed and not to be trusted.

uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:37AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Read a pro-lifer on Twitter saying that it’s not a landslide because 38% of people didn’t vote. How do people not get that anyone who doesn’t vote is forfeiting their right to be counted? And how does that tweeter know that all the non-voters would vote no?

I said much the same a few posts earlier

Pugzilla · 27-05-2018 11:38AM

Democracy doesn't work, stupid people shouldn't be allowed to vote. A technocracy would be far superior.

Fighting Tao · 27-05-2018 11:38AM

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Those same millennials will then complain about government policy effecting them when they never engaged with putting people into office who matched their ideals in the first place.

In the real world I don't engage in discussion with those moaning about the government who never voted

It's not just millennials though. Everyone has a right to vote and not to vote. They also have a right to not tell how they voted, and not tell you if they didn't vote. They also have a right to complain. You can't stop them complaining.

uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:38AM

Water John wrote: »

We'll raise the voting age to 35 or even 40. Those young people are too easily swayed and not to be trusted.

Can we ban the boggers on the farm as well??;)

All they know about is red water disease and mastitis

27-05-2018 11:39AM

Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »

Those same millennials will then complain about government policy effecting them when they never engaged with putting people into office who matched their ideals in the first place.

In the real world I don't engage in discussion with those moaning about the government who never voted

Well considering you didn't want people who you judged to not be Christians posting in another thread you seem to have a problem entering into discussion altogether.

pitifulgod · 27-05-2018 11:40AM

_Dara_ wrote: »

Read a pro-lifer on Twitter saying that it’s not a landslide because 38% of people didn’t vote. How do people not get that anyone who doesn’t vote is forfeiting their right to be counted? And how does that tweeter know that all the non-voters would vote no?

There's an immense level of scrambling to influence legislation now and still trying to rewrite the narrative of history. Eg Caroline Simons on Marian still lying about Savita and other cases.

uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:41AM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Well considering you didn't want people who you judged to not be Christians posting in another thread you seem to have a problem entering into discussion altogether.

If you have something to add to the thread do so but this is nothing but sh1te!

That question was about Christians. How can those who aren't know what Christians think.
They did make a valiant effort at telling us what they thought we should think.
There's a huge difference in the two

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2018 11:42AM

Water John wrote: »

We'll raise the voting age to 35 or even 40. Those young people are too easily swayed and not to be trusted.

It'd have to be 65

Fred Swanson · 27-05-2018 11:43AM

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uck51js9zml2yt · 27-05-2018 11:45AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

They don't accept the war has been lost.

Who is they?

I said yesterday I believe in democracy.
I might not like the result but that's a different story.
The people have spoken. Let's just wait and see what kind of society we become.

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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