Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

fritzelly · 25-05-2018 11:23PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Do you believe there is a majority will in the country for abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks? Why do you keep stonewalling the question?

Did you miss the poll results from the IT and RTE or as is wanton by the No side preferring to just ignore facts

nullzero · 25-05-2018 11:23PM

Joe Dog wrote: »

Unlike the Gay Marriage referendum, this time can the country please avoid all the tedious clapping ourselves on the back for apparently being such a progressive country.

The party is already starting or has nobody told you?

Ulysses Gaze · 25-05-2018 11:24PM

zeisszhoos wrote: »

This vote is going to kill Fianna Fail. They stand for nothing now. FG will push ahead in the polls. Expect an election very soon - probably in September. Why wait for the budget? No need now. Guaranteed to be an election. FG will capitalise and their new buddies in SF.

They never stood for anything.

fergus1001 · 25-05-2018 11:24PM

late late have it at 69%

giggidy

BarleySweets · 25-05-2018 11:24PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

The fact the legislation was out before the referendum meant people knew they had to accept abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks if they wanted to repeal for the hard cases

12 weeks is necessary to allow for the hard cases. Stop spinning 12 weeks as controversial!

Some women don’t find out till 10 weeks after conception. If a woman is a victim of rape and/or incest and she only finds out she’s pregnant at 10 weeks, what would you prefer happens? Brush it off as not being a hard case? Or give her two weeks to allow time for appointments etc?

YbFocus · 25-05-2018 11:24PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Not necessarily. Strange thing to say.

Exactly my point.
You made the original stupid comment.
Back in your box.

spookwoman · 25-05-2018 11:24PM

Trasna1 wrote: »

The problem was that they didn't have anyone else. What the No side needed was a new Civic grouping to advocate that the proposal went too far but that hard cases needed to be legislated for. No was a motley crew of right wing Catholic fundamentalists whose views were well known and who's personalities are roundly disliked by normal people. No also needed the experience of a major political party to shepherd the campaign, the lack of experience with presenting an inclusive likable campaign was telling.

That said, it wouldn't have changed the result, just made it a little tighter.

Didn't help when nearly every time they opened their mouth the fact check had to correct them. Was there anything they actually said was true?

VinLieger · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

Fianna fail parliamentary party gonna be doing a quick about turn now

tigger123 · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

With a clear majority like this the Government (and opposition) has a clear mandate to legislate accordingly. The message is clear with this kind of margin.

Fr_Dougal · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

I hope there’s adequate investment in health services to make this vote worth something.

hatrickpatrick · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

C__MC wrote: »

Amazed at how Irish celebs and high profile people voted yes. No compassion for the innocent life- no humanity. There all raving now on social media about the invetable yes victory.

Alternatively, no consensus that a foetus not yet capable of producing any sort of brain activity counts as life, innocent or otherwise.

Movementarian · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

I'm asking your opinion. Why can you not give a straight answer? Do you believe there is a majority will in this country for abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks, seeing as you're the one pontificating about democracy in action?

Clearly there is as the polls show a 68% majority and presumably had the same information that you do. Whats hard to grasp here?

Conversations I have had with people show that they understand that voting no wasnt going to give any additional protection for the unborn as we already have abortion here. But its in the UK. Every time this is put to people like you and Shurimgreat and many others you duck this obvious point.

What is being proposed in draft legislation is actually more restrictive than the UK and hence safer then what we have now. So if you actually thought this through voting yes is the right option to protect everyone. By making this open, safe and legal and giving support to people we can provide for both. As has been shown in other countries.

This constant **** from you and others about today being 'a dark day for Ireland', well gueas what, its been dark ****ing days for Ireland for over 30 years and none of you were complaining. The majority of this country is stepping into the light. You are welcome to join us, its your choice. Choose.

25-05-2018 11:25PM

Never expected anything like these margins! :eek: Fantastic results, hope they're accurately borne out when the boxes are opened tomorrow.

Cupcake_Crisis · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

I campaigned so hard for a yes vote but honestly never dreamed it’d be such a landslide. My heart is bursting with pride. I can’t believe it. An awful lot of people worked very hard for a very long time and it has all been worth it.

GarIT · 25-05-2018 11:25PM

I wonder if they will consider increasing the proposed 12 weeks to 16 or 20 now with such strong support at 12 weeks.

Ulysses Gaze · 25-05-2018 11:26PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Fianna fail parliamentary party gonna be doing a quick about turn now

No surprise there.

That Party is a ideology free-zone.

enfant terrible · 25-05-2018 11:27PM

GarIT wrote: »

I wonder if they will consider increasing the proposed 12 weeks to 16 or 20 now with such strong support at 12 weeks.

Is that what you want?

Nettle Soup · 25-05-2018 11:27PM

Well done Leo, Mary Lou, Simon and Michael.

Look what we can achieve with cross party support.

And well done to the people of Ireland.

YbFocus · 25-05-2018 11:28PM

At least with such a margin the government knows to plough ahead with it now and not listen to the haggling from the remnant no side.

Drive it on and get it in place.

Proper healthcare for our ladies.

Wibbs · 25-05-2018 11:28PM

touts wrote: »

The problem with fundamentalists is they don't care what anyone else thinks or wants. They think know what's best

And that's different from any political/moral position how? The overwhelming commonality with any deeply held political or moral position is their inability to care or think about how their opposing deeply held political or moral position feels, or their reasons for doing so. And neither will consider the possibility that they themselves are "fundamentalists". The No vote don't think that, so how come you give yourself a free pass because you're a Yes voter? How the hell do you think we ended up needing this referendum in the first place? Moral and political blinkers are truly democratic in how they're handed out. Unfortunately the objective bigger picture stance is the minority.

relax carry on · 25-05-2018 11:28PM

C__MC wrote: »

Amazed at how Irish celebs and high profile people voted yes. No compassion for the innocent life- no humanity. There all raving now on social media about the invetable yes victory.

Why do you think the no side lost and the gap between the yes and no appears to be so big?

VinLieger · 25-05-2018 11:28PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

No surprise there.

That Party is a ideology free-zone.

Really looking forward to meeting the next FF'er who comes campaignig

Teyla Emmagan · 25-05-2018 11:28PM

GarIT wrote:

I wonder if they will consider increasing the proposed 12 weeks to 16 or 20 now with such strong support at 12 weeks.

No I'd say they'll bed it in and see how it goes. But who can tell.

There will be FFA exceptions after 12 weeks anyway by the sound of it.

suicide_circus · 25-05-2018 11:29PM

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

I campaigned so hard for a yes vote but honestly never dreamed it’d be such a landslide. My heart is bursting with pride. I can’t believe it. An awful lot of people worked very hard for a very long time and it has all been worth it.

Not trying to detract from your efforts but I honestly don't think many people changed their minds based on the campigners/canvasers etc. The polls consistently showed a yes vote during the campaign. This was a foregone conclusion.

fritzelly · 25-05-2018 11:29PM

C__MC wrote: »

Amazed at how Irish celebs and high profile people voted yes. No compassion for the innocent life- no humanity. There all raving now on social media about the invetable yes victory.

You're amazed at how normal people voted to repeal - funny thing is most of the country voted the same
Are you just hurt that you couldn't get any high profile people to support you (or does Ronan Mullen count as high profile, maybe lowbrow would be more appropriate)

eviltwin · 25-05-2018 11:29PM

I'm crying, I'm one of the women who travelled to England. Never again are we going to force our girls across the water. On a personal level I feel the country supports me and doesn't judge me. For that alone I will be forever grateful to everyone who voted yes.

Liam McPoyle · 25-05-2018 11:29PM

Too late for Savita et al but we have ensured that those that lost their lives, that had to secret themselves away to the UK, that had to take pills from god knows where, will never have to see another generation of women do the same.

I'm immensely proud and simply put, over awed by the resounding nature of the result.

Cannot believe it.

Nettle Soup · 25-05-2018 11:30PM

eviltwin wrote: »

I'm crying, I'm one of the women who travelled to England. Never again are we going to force our girls across the water. On a personal level I feel the country supports me and doesn't judge me. For that alone I will be forever grateful to everyone who voted yes.

I am sorry for the women of Ireland that it has taken so long.

Overheal · 25-05-2018 11:30PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Didn't help when nearly every time they opened their mouth the fact check had to correct them. Was there anything they actually said was true?

I couldnt watch these debates but you mean there was a fact-checker that whistled in like a ref or something and called them out on their bull****?

25-05-2018 11:30PM

I'm genuinely happy. Keep thinking of the the poor lad who lost his wife and child. This makes a difference.
Good day for the country.

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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