Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Overheal

tigger123 wrote: »

The No side shot themselves in the foot with Ronan Mullen.

regardless of whatever happened to Ronan Mullen...

It wasnt me123

I am over the moon - I am so delighted on behalf of my 16 year old daughter and her medical treatment into the future.

I don't want to gloat but I predicted 70 / 30 to the Yes vote and I was called complacent.

I wasn't complacent I just knew that Ireland needed to change and that today was the day. I'm very emotional, so happy and thankful to all the people who campaigned, manned stalls, knocked on doors and passed on their knowledge day after day to all the queries from the "I'm undecided but...."

Thanks to you all and a big hug to Ireland. I'm so happy.

murpho999

Poll - conducted for The Irish Times - suggests margin of victory for the 'Yes' side will be 68pc to 32pc
Highest 'Yes' vote was in Dublin where some 77pc voted to repeal
Rest of Leinster outside of Dublin voted 66pc to 34pc for 'Yes' - says poll
Munster voted 66pc to 34pc in favour of repeal
Connacht-Ulster voted 59pc to 41pc in favour of repeal
60pc of voters in rural Ireland voted to repeal, according to poll
Women strongly in favour of repeal - with 70pc in favour, 30pc against
Some 65pc of men in favour of repeal, while 35pc against pc were against.

Taken from Irish Times poll.

Incredible numbers. Amazed at lack of rural/urban divide.

Seems like the country is totally behind repeal.

ted1

Try_harder wrote: »

All the money No threw at this. Millions of posters and ads. People power looks to have won

Em that’s just rubbish. The yes campaign was very well funded probably better funded . In fact it was so well funded they paid for my friend to come home to vote cost over 500 Euro.

The Golden Miller

tigger123 wrote: »

The result speaks for itself. Different people had different reasons for voting Yes today. But the majority voted Yes.

If it was a Proportional Representation system, or the Electoral College (vs the popular vote) I could understand why or how you'd question the result. But it's a Yes/No vote. The people have spoken.

Also, you have to remember how well funded the No side were.

Do you accept the hard cases won this and there is not majority support in this country for abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks? Yes or no? I'm asking seeing as it's you that started throwing the word "democracy" about

SkepticQuark

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

So whats next,

Euthanasia, Prostitution, then no idea what else really?

We already have 6 referendums queued up apparently and none of those is on the list so cool your jets.

YbFocus

Have we got to the point where the no's are attacking everyone that breathes in hear because they have lost.

Bias in the government, bias in the papers etc etc.

You lost, shut up and accept the country's decision.

Ulysses Gaze

greenpilot wrote: »

I know It's unbecoming to be celebratory, but Jesus Christ the comments over on the Iona's twitter feed are gas craic altogether,

storker

sdanseo wrote: »

Just a thought. No need to eviscerate me for it.

It seems like a worthy thought to me. You should be proud of it.

fritzelly

The Golden Miller wrote: »

How does something "seem" to be accepted by the majority? People repealing for the hard cases won this, now we have abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks. One came with the other, forcing people into an all or nothing vote. Fudge it up whatever way you want

The majority didn't repeal this for the hard cases, they repealed this because it should never have been in the constitution to start with
If you want to make it about the "hard cases" then every pregnancy where a woman has to consider is it right to be pregnant for whatever reason (mental, health or whatever) is an hard case because women do not lightly have an abortion

There is no all or nothing, as the no side have tried to make as such, if you want to have an abortion you can - if you don't then you don't

wexie

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Let it sink in that there is not majority support for abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks? And that you seem to take satisfaction trundling something through by forcing people into an all or nothing vote?

Really?

I think 68/32 is quite a clear majority actually.

touts

That's one hell of a convincing margin. I'd imagine it'll tighten but the result is done and dusted.

As for the future of the likes of IONA and Ronan Mullen and Mattie McGrath. Well now they will just bring the battle into the halls of Leinster House. Remember the referendum only gave the power to legislate on the issue to the dail. It didn't compel them on what to put in the final legislation. And dont forget the 6 university senators have successfully lobbied and blocked any attempt to implement the 7th amendment to the constitution that would have widened the vote to all graduates. If 6 irrelevant senators can do that for nearly 40 years what do you think 50 or 60 pro life senators and TDs can do.

So I think this battle may be won but there is a very dirty campaign to come and My bet is with this result, but a monumental Dail fight ahead, Leo will be tempted to go to the country on it and hope to return with a working majority. He'll definately prefer to fight an election on a topic with 68% support among voters rather than something like the economic fallout from Brexit.

Sand

sdanseo wrote: »

I voted yes. I did so because I believe in compassion, because I felt that many more people would be better served by a Yes vote than a No vote, and because a No vote would not have served any purpose other than continue the status quo of those who would have an abortion travelling for one anyway; but at the same time prolonging and exascerbating the suffering of those who need an abortion for a medical or psychological reason and were being denied it by the amendment.

I wont pretend the idea of abortion totally on demand (where there is no medical problem, deformity or other issue of any kind - simply the child is not wanted) sits completely well with me, it doesnt.
But let's be real: the people in this category can and will travel anyway and voting no would have made almost zero difference to this reality.

I just wonder if it's something that's suitable for celebrating as opposed to a more muted recongnition that we've done the right thing.
This isn't the same sex marriage referendum - whose result was undeniable correct and worth celebrating - but it's being treated as such.

Just a thought. No need to eviscerate me for it.

Yes, I think there is an understandable triumphalism seeping in. I voted yes, because the 8th amendment was simply untenable. Those who view it as endorsement of abortion up to 9 years are heavily overreaching, and they may be disappointed.

All that has been voted for is that the Dail may legislate for reality, not what shape or form that legislation may take.

sydthebeat

physioman wrote: »

Legalised abortion! Hope Yee can live with yourselves.you just supported murder Ireland.

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1970s Ireland is that way

C__MC

An innocent human being killed-
Sad day for Ireland.

Grab All Association

Didn’t see any brides on Rté coverage voting in the polling station

:O

wexie

murpho999 wrote: »

Amazed at lack of rural/urban divide.

I think this is actually really really important and I'm delighted to see it.

TheValeyard

roddy15 wrote: »

We already have 6 referendums queued up apparently and none of those is on the list so cool your jets.

Might as well add them to the list and get it over with, but not sure they require actual referendums, just legislation.

keith_sixteen

8-10 wrote: »

I am incredibly proud of Ireland tonight. Having an infant daughter makes this even more important to me, my vote was for her today.

One thing I want to be sure to acknowledge however is the No side tonight. As emotional as you feel on this issue as a Yes voter, I truly believe that for the majority who voted No felt equally as emotional. I'm not here to argue or condescend but look at the UK right now, look at the USA. The divisiveness of Brexit and Trump is growing still even over a year since the votes.

It's important to me that while I am over the moon with the prospect that the 8th is being successfully repealed, that we all move forward as a united people and culture. People will be angry, people will try to gloat, but it's short term. This is a very divisive issue, let's not divide us as a people.

In the same way we all had a right to go out and put an X in a box today, our future generations will do the same whether it be on the same issue, similar issues, or issues in the future we can't even comprehend yet.

I'm proud of Ireland if this is a Yes result, but I'm proud of Ireland regardless because something this important to our society deserves our input and both sides needed to be represented to ensure we go forward with what we collectively feel is right

Excellent post. Head and shoulders above the likes of the "lol Roscommon / Donegal" drivel posted in spades here.

suicide_circus

I can see women travelling to the UK for abortions because you just know the prices here will be through the roof.

TCM

The outcome was always going to be a YES. The result was never in doubt.

kneemos

Wesser wrote: »

Now we need to sort of how we are going to provide and fund this service.
Let's hope it's not provided in the same fashion as the rest of our health services. E.g. mental health. A&E crisis.
If it is provided to the same standard... might be better off getting it on the cross border treatment scheme.....🙄🙄

Well over 90% will just involve a pill. That was the reason for the twelve week limit.
Later abortions will be scarce I imagine.

The Golden Miller

wexie wrote: »

Really?

I think 68/32 is quite a clear majority actually.

Are you being willfully ignorant to my point or just a bit dim?

Try_harder

Well done to all those that campaigned, especially the young women, I was so surprised and delighted to see so many young women out publicly campaigning for Yes. I saw the abuse some of you suffered. I doff my cap to you, and congratulate you on a very hard-fought victory for your health rights.

GarIT

physioman wrote: »

Legalised abortion! Hope Yee can live with yourselves.you just supported murder Ireland.

The only legalised murder was the 8th amendment.

January

Won't be doing any celebrating until the official result tomorrow. Crying now though at the thought of such a landslide.

Back tomorrow with my thoughts.

tigger123

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Do you accept the hard cases won this and there is not majority support in this country for abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks? Yes or no? I'm asking seeing as it's you that started throwing the word "democracy" about

It's your assertion that the "hard cases" won this, not mine. Therefore it's up to you to prove it.

A majority of the electorate voted Yes today for a variety of reasons.

physioman

C__MC wrote: »

An innocent human being killed-
Sad day for Ireland.

Exactly. Doctors playing god now. Very sad day for ireland

nullzero

C__MC wrote: »

An innocent human being killed-
Sad day for Ireland.

It's an excuse for a party or didn't you know?

Ulysses Gaze

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Might as well add them to the list and get it over with, but not sure they require actual referendums, just legislation.

Prostitution should be legalised and income taxed.