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Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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  • #1292
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,940 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    greenpilot wrote: »
    I know It's unbecoming to be celebratory, but Jesus Christ the comments over on the Iona's twitter feed are gas craic altogether,


    ronan mullen rightly also getting eviscerated


  • #1293
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    fritzelly wrote: »
    The majority didn't repeal this for the hard cases, they repealed this because it should never have been in the constitution to start with
    If you want to make it about the "hard cases" then every pregnancy where a woman has to consider is it right to be pregnant for whatever reason (mental, health or whatever) is an hard case because women do not lightly have an abortion

    There is no all or nothing, as the no side have tried to make as such, if you want to have an abortion you can - if you don't then you don't

    The fact the legislation was out before the referendum meant people knew they had to accept abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks if they wanted to repeal for the hard cases


  • #1294
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Are you being willfully ignorant to my point or just a bit dim?

    You don't have a point....

    and no.


  • #1295
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »
    So whats next,

    Euthanasia, Prostitution, then no idea what else really?

    None of these need a constitutional amendment. Abortion is unique in that it was banned in the constitution but that’s because campaigners wanted to stop any future law. Worked for a generation.


  • #1296
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    C__MC wrote: »
    An innocent human being killed-
    Sad day for Ireland.

    It’s a fantastic day for Ireland!!

    Democracy is the best.


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  • #1297
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    TCM wrote: »
    The outcome was always going to be a YES. The result was never in doubt.


    I was talking to someone from Together For Yes/Trinity SU and USI a few weeks ago when the first No posters went up and blanketed Dublin city and they honestly believed they didn't have a hope based on the budgets the No side had. But they persevered through great difficulty, a sea of verbal abuse and occasional physical attacks and it paid off.


  • #1298
    Nettle Soup
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Nettle Soup


    I hope the No campaigners enjoy taking all those inaccurate posters down :D


  • #1299
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    It’s a fantastic day for Ireland!!

    Democracy is the best.

    Get those buntings up.

    Glazers Out!



  • #1300
    YbFocus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    physioman wrote: »
    Exactly. Doctors playing god now. Very sad day for ireland

    It's a happy day for Ireland. You're in the minority.
    The majority see the outcome of today as positive. As do i.

    Less of your childish "oh sad day for Ireland" bullsh1t


  • #1301
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    What's the odds there will be a legal challenge within 2 weeks. The guys and gals in Iona only like democracy when it goes their way.


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  • #1302
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    tigger123 wrote: »
    It's your assertion that the "hard cases" won this, not mine. Therefore it's up to you to prove it.

    A majority of the electorate voted Yes today for a variety of reasons.

    I'm asking your opinion. Why can you not give a straight answer? Do you believe there is a majority will in this country for abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks, seeing as you're the one pontificating about democracy in action?


  • #1303
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Can’t believe people are celebrating on social media. I think it’s very sad an innocent human at 12 weeks old or before is defencless in the womb. It’s way to broad for me.


  • #1304
    DickSwiveller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    YbFocus wrote: »
    It's a happy day for Ireland. You're in the minority.
    The majority see the outcome of today as positive. As do i.

    Less of your childish "oh sad day for Ireland" bullsh1t

    The majority aren't always right.


  • #1305
    Reati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    physioman wrote: »
    Legalised abortion! Hope Yee can live with yourselves.you just supported murder Ireland.

    Absolutely. Next up, assisted suicided for the terminally ill :)


  • #1306
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    The fact the legislation was out before the referendum meant people knew they had to accept abortion for any reason up until 12 weeks if they wanted to repeal for the hard cases

    There is no legislation, there is proposed legislation and the people agreed that 12 weeks is acceptable - still to be argued through

    Keep banging your drum - but you have lost


  • #1307
    yerwanthere123
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    physioman wrote: »
    Legalised abortion! Hope Yee can live with yourselves.you just supported murder Ireland.

    giphy.gif


  • #1308
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,907 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I know it's a blessing but why does Turbridy always face away from the camera?


  • #1309
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,390 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Wish this lad would f*ck off the Late Late show, so I can compare the two exit polls.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #1310
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    martingriff wrote: »
    Except she didn't dievdue to the 8 she died cause medical staff did not do there job

    You really should read up on the case before coming to such incorrect conclusions.


  • #1311
    DickSwiveller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    C__MC wrote: »
    Can’t believe people are celebrating on social media. I think it’s very sad an innocent human at 12 weeks old or before is defencless in the womb. It’s way to broad for me.

    Are you surprised? This is the reality now.


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  • #1312
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    Are you being willfully ignorant to my point or just a bit dim?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQUKHujtPF4


  • #1313
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    yerwanthere123 wrote: »
    giphy.gif

    I will never get tired of that gif

    :D


  • #1314
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    touts wrote: »
    As for the future of the likes of IONA and Ronan Mullen and Mattie McGrath. Well now they will just bring the battle into the halls of Leinster House. Remember the referendum only gave the power to legislate on the issue to the dail. It didn't compel them on what to put in the final legislation. And dont forget the 6 university senators have successfully lobbied and blocked any attempt to implement the 7th amendment to the constitution that would have widened the vote to all graduates. If 6 irrelevant senators can do that for nearly 40 years what do you think 50 or 60 pro life senators and TDs can do.

    No doubt there is still work ahead but if the final result is even close to the polls then there won't be a huge amount of TDs willing to go publicly against something with such strong support. A tighter Yes will be a different matter.


  • #1315
    YbFocus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    DickSwiveller wrote: »
    The majority aren't always right.

    The minority are usually wrong.


  • #1316
    zeisszhoos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭zeisszhoos


    This vote is going to kill Fianna Fail. They stand for nothing now. FG will push ahead in the polls. Expect an election very soon - probably in September. Why wait for the budget? No need now. Guaranteed to be an election. FG will capitalise and their new buddies in SF.


  • #1317
    Joe Dog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Joe Dog


    Unlike the Gay Marriage referendum, this time can the country please avoid all the tedious clapping ourselves on the back for apparently being such a progressive country.


  • #1318
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,811 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    cml387 wrote: »
    The thing is, what happens next?
    There were many no voters who cleaved to all the major parties, FG,FF and SF. They now will feel totally disenfranchised. I know some SF diehards who were appalled at Mary Lou's staunch endorsement of a yes vote (and I'm no supporter of SF but she alone had the guts to have her photo on a yes poster).
    So is there now room for a conservative, populist, party of some sort. Renua II?

    There has been apparent room for such a party since the 1995 divorce referendum but their putative supporters have shown absolutely no interest in voting for one. Why should they start now?


  • #1319
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Same could be said for you. As I said earlier a great day for abortion on demand advocates. A terrible day for the unborn. Pat yourself on the back my friend. You've just removed the only protection unborn children have.

    No I haven't. Approximately 68% of the Irish electorate has who are intelligent and measured people.

    You have to stop talking about "Abortion on demand". It's not like that and you are being disrespectful to women with that line.

    Also, unborn children have lots of protections from loving parents who want them which is just what it's like in other countries.

    You forget also that abortion has always been here, and just exported and you were happy with that for the last 35 years and offered no alternative.

    Finally, the 8th was killing mothers ,like Savitta and how can you defend that?


  • #1320
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    fritzelly wrote: »
    There is no legislation, there is proposed legislation and the people agreed that 12 weeks is acceptable - still to be argued through

    Keep banging your drum - but you have lost

    How do we know the people deem it acceptable? Because if they wanted to repeal for the hard cases they must of also validated it?


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  • #1321
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    C__MC wrote: »
    Can’t believe people are celebrating on social media. I think it’s very sad an innocent human at 12 weeks old or before is defencless in the womb. It’s way to broad for me.

    People are celebrating that a fundamental right has been handed back to women - whats wrong with that?


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