Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

Shurimgreat · 25-05-2018 10:52PM

Wesser wrote: »

As a yes voter, I hope there will not be jubilant celebrations on the streets. It is abortion after all. Hopefully respect will be shown

Unfortunately if boards.ie is anything to go by you will be disappointed in your hopes.

murpho999 · 25-05-2018 10:52PM

123balltv wrote: »

Abortions will be the only procedure in Ireland to not have a waiting list
cancer patients etc will have wait longer now.

Shurimgreat wrote: »

But probably true nonetheless.

Hard to see how something that is true is scaremongering?

Such rubbish.

Abortion treatment in most cases will be easy. 2 tablets prescribed by a GP with one being taken at home.

Cancer is a much more complex treatment with many variables.

Somedaythefire · 25-05-2018 10:52PM

Wesser wrote: »

As a yes voter, I hope there will not be jubilant celebrations on the streets. It is abortion after all. Hopefully respect will be shown

The celebrations will be for the effort put in over the last years finally coming to a head. It's well worth the celebration after the hardship and campaigning put in.

nullzero · 25-05-2018 10:52PM

mickmackmcgoo wrote: »

Yes , about winning the right to choice

Ok

cml387 · 25-05-2018 10:53PM

Barbara Melted Bassoon wrote: »

I honestly don't think this result will have party political impact.

It probably helps Micheal Martin. He was certainly toast if it had been No.

The Golden Miller · 25-05-2018 10:53PM

tigger123 wrote: »

Irish Times are predicting a majority for Yes in all sections of the country; rural v urban, and in every province. Pretty clear to me.

What percentage of the pro-choice side do you believe want abortion in any case up until 12 weeks I asked. Any I talked to were doing so for the hard cases. But to do that they had to also validate abortion for any reason. Are you struggling to grasp the point?

realitykeeper · 25-05-2018 10:53PM

The YES vote is even stronger than I thought it would be. My guess was it would be 60/40 for the YES side. Despite this belief, I still took time out of my very busy day to vote NO, in full knowledge that tomorrow the YES campaign would be celebrating their "victory". Why did I bother to do this? Because I believe it was the right thing to do in the sight of God.

Overheal · 25-05-2018 10:53PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

But probably true nonetheless.

Hard to see how something that is true is scaremongering?

No proof that it will happen. Nowhere does this happen, either. Pants on Fire.

minikin · 25-05-2018 10:53PM

On the day GDPR was introduced... data now has more protection in law than babies.

Yes, what a wonderful occasion, enjoy your celebrations folks... at least unlike previous ‘joyous’ events there won’t be much risk of a load of ‘victory ride’ babies being born 9 months from now.

BabyCheeses · 25-05-2018 10:54PM

That guy who said he'll nut when there's a no result must be starting to sweat.

storker · 25-05-2018 10:54PM

hmmm wrote: »

This is the end of Fianna Fail's attempt to rehabilitate themselves to the country, unfortunately it leaves the door open now for SF to replace them. Two great results for FG however with this and the marriage equality referendum carried. We look to be heading towards proper right/left politics.

I get what you're saying here, after years of different faces, same policies, but I'm not so enamoured with straight left vs right either, where it's either too much of one thing or too much of the other. I think I'd like to see principle-led rather than policy-led politics, if there could ever be such a thing.

Carry · 25-05-2018 10:54PM

Congratulations Ireland!
I'm so proud of all the sensible people who voted YES and I'm proud to live in a country that finally grows up and liberates itself from the religious yoke of the past.

I couldn't vote (I'm not an Irish citizen, just a resident), but all day I was hoping that the result would be a yes, that the hypocrisy in this regard would finally end and that this country starts to take care of and listens to women.

I cried of joy when I read the exit poll results and I almost never cry.
Whatever the final results there is no doubt that the Irish made a clear stance.

BarleySweets · 25-05-2018 10:54PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

But probably true nonetheless.

Hard to see how something that is true is scaremongering?

“Water can kill you!!”

That’s true too. But roaring it out next time you’re at the beach would be scaremongering.

Fetuses may not have constitutional protections anymore but they’ll still have their mother’s protection and the protection of the Irish maternity health system if she chooses to continue with her pregnancy.

Harry Palmr · 25-05-2018 10:54PM

https://twitter.com/couch2five/status/1000132504538566656

Cina · 25-05-2018 10:54PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

What percentage of the pro-choice side do you believe want abortion in any case up until 12 weeks I asked. Any I talked to were doing so for the hard cases. But to do that they had to also validate abortion for any reason. Are you struggling to grasp the point?

Speak for yourself. I want the option where women make their own choice for their bodies. I know many who want that too.

vienne86 · 25-05-2018 10:55PM

The Golden Miller wrote: »

What percentage of the pro-choice side do you believe want abortion in any case up until 12 weeks I asked. Any I talked to were doing so for the hard cases. But to do that they had to also validate abortion for any reason. Are you struggling to grasp the point?

Abortion won't be compulsory though. Can you grasp that?

Penn · 25-05-2018 10:55PM

Well I was way off with my 53% prediction, and delightfully so. An amazing achievement.

Fair play to all involved in the Yes campaign. The boots on the ground, the ones organising and printing leaflets with facts rather than scaremongering and emotional blackmail, and all those who talked to their loved ones with respect and compassion and turned No's into Yes's.

As others have said, it's not going to be a big celebration like the marriage referendum result, but there's still a lot to celebrate and be thankful for, as well as simply just celebrating the achievement of the long fight that was undertaken to get here and that its finally over.

martingriff · 25-05-2018 10:55PM

Deedsie wrote: »

I have F all respect for no voters to be honest... I honestly can't fathom how people could look at this subject and come up with a no. Zero compassion. As someone else asked, if your wife or partner got pregnant and was unfortunate to end up with a FFA would you try and stop her getting an abortion in Ireland?

And the vast majority of no votes probably were very sympathic to the FAA however it was the 12 weeks they could not get over and many realised it would be yes so voted with there conscious on the 12 week side of it . I may not agree with them but I respect them they had the conviction to vote how they wanted. So I am guessing if a friend or family member voted no you would find it hard to talk to them again

Hurrache · 25-05-2018 10:55PM

hmmm wrote: »

Two great results for FG however with this and the marriage equality referendum carried. We look to be heading towards proper right/left politics.

And ironically FG would traditionally have been seen as the more conservative party.

Water John · 25-05-2018 10:56PM

The No side, left the extremists run their campaign and it backfired. Savita (RIP) was probably a key turning point. NO should have got momentum from the CB Show, but they overplayed their hand that night. Won the show and lost the overall battle. Turned a lot of people off. Ronan Mullen's intervention was too late but reinforced a decision, people had already largely made.

fritzelly · 25-05-2018 10:56PM

Quick breakdown by the IT
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/yes-vote-shows-overwhelming-desire-for-change-that-nobody-foresaw-1.3508879#.WwiAvv-pbhw.twitter

Dyr · 25-05-2018 10:56PM

Cue the high court appeals.

Hopefully we also legislate to prevent foreign religious maniacs being bused in so they can interfere in our nations affairs.

Shurimgreat · 25-05-2018 10:56PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Such rubbish.

Abortion treatment in most cases will be easy. 2 tablets prescribed by a GP with one being taken at home.

Cancer is a much more complex treatment with many variables.

Take a step back and take a breath.

The original poster was making the point that it will be easier to have an abortion than get many other types of treatments in this country.

We will be better at killing unborn babies who pose in the majority of cases no risk to the life of anyone than healing people. The truth often hurts.

Overheal · 25-05-2018 10:56PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Ever consider No voters saw no compassion in killing healthy lives in the wombs by healthy women?
I can be on the losing side and happy knowing I voted for what I believed in.
You should respect all voters as we are in a democracy and we all had an equal right to vote the way we wished, we all have to be comfortable with the choice we made when we have our ballot paper in the ballot box.

I know you campaigned on here quite a bit for your view and were also upset about the online advert blackout, and fair play for voting for your convinctions. Well said Rob, no kicking and screaming etc. which unfortunately I think folks are going to see anyway.

Wibbs · 25-05-2018 10:56PM

Akrasia wrote: »

The best way to 'win' this referendum is to show the no voters that they were wrong to mistrust women.

I wish this utter bloody nonsense of "trust women" as a mantra could be put to bed. Women are not a hive mind and are certainly not the ultimate arbiters of morals or good, or bad choices. Some are very clued in, some have the IQ of a house brick, most wander around somewhere in the middle trying to work out what's what with what life gives them to deal with. Just like men. Just trust Women™ is not a statement of logic but a political one. If anyone suggested I should Just trust Men™ on any particular matter I'd consider them gullible to the draw of an easy slogan, or a halfwit. Mostly the latter. Consider this; of the No campaigners and voters many were women, chances are high close enough to half. Do you "trust" them just because they happen to be women?

RobertKK · 25-05-2018 10:57PM

Deedsie wrote: »

Who made up that rule? I certainly don't agree to it. I think no voters voted to leave Irish women in potentially horrendous situations. You avoided the what would you do question nicely...

I went into it in the past about a family member who was told her unborn wouldn't live, she didn't abort. Her child is living a normal life. All I got was hassle for telling the story so I don't want to go there.

Ulysses Gaze · 25-05-2018 10:57PM

I figured the actual result would be closer and predicted a 3%-4% victory for Yes.

If this poll is correct, that is a stunning result.

kneemos · 25-05-2018 10:57PM

hmmm wrote: »

This is the end of Fianna Fail's attempt to rehabilitate themselves to the country, unfortunately it leaves the door open now for SF to replace them. Two great results for FG however with this and the marriage equality referendum carried. We look to be heading towards proper right/left politics.

SF are no more left than my right foot.
Populist is the word you're looking for.

Harry Palmr · 25-05-2018 10:57PM

Simona1986 wrote: »

How is that possible with such a variance of voting likely over the different age groups and areas?

Whats that got to do with anything - Dublin Posh could be 80/20 plus or minus 1.5% while Mayo Mid 19th Century might vote 20/80 plus or minus 1.5%.

The Golden Miller · 25-05-2018 10:58PM

Cina wrote: »

Speak for yourself. I want the option where women make their own choice for their bodies. I know many who want that too.

vienne86 wrote: »

Abortion won't be compulsory though. Can you grasp that?

I'm simply asking, do you's think there is popular support for abortion up until 12 weeks for any reason from the majority, or did this pass on the basis of the hard cases? Everyone seems to like dancing around the point

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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