Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

jigglypuffstuff · 25-05-2018 10:02PM

RayCun wrote: »

All this talk about a middle ground that was missed... It's bollocks.

The citizens assembly were not full of people looking for the widest possible abortion law. They were people looking for a sensible compromise, and when they listened to the stories of women who had abortions, and to doctors, and to lawyers, they gradually realized that you can't legislate for a bunch of narrowly defined edge cases, because that only creates new edge cases you haven't thought of. You need flexibility, trust, and respect.

And the same when the debate moved to the Dail. Do you think Varadkar and Martin and Coveney expected to be proposing this legislation? But they listened, and they came to the same realization.

Because in the end, there isn't a middle ground. Either you trust women to make their own decisions, and take them as seriously as you would, whether they come to the same conclusion or not. Or you think they have to be prevented from making decisions, in case they decide to do something you don't approve of.

It's not about deciding what we approve of and don't...it's about the creation and destruction of life when it's not needed. There's plenty of case's where this is a hard fact

I have one friend who's a male...he's had 3 children terminated before 30 to my knowledge anyway. For no reason other than it wasn't convienient

Do you think that's ok??

I certainly don't. I'm more than happy to support the hard cases and places where Ireland needs to improve. This is drastically needed and totally necessary

I do not support a system that can end in eugenics and reduces the worth of the Life of an unborn to a mere transaction. I don't think that's right. People can do it all the wish, but I won't support that

You forget the third party who's life was both created and taken has zero say in the matter.. further ethical dilemmas arise when we objectively factor this into account

limnam · 25-05-2018 10:02PM

milhous wrote: »

You don't know how your wife feels about abortion? I find that bizzare.

I wouldn't think so.

A lot of people don't give a fck about it.

If you don't care about it, it's unlikely something you'd bring up in conversation and there for unlikely to know or care.

I'd say he doesn't know what his wife thinks about the price of sugar in sudan either and probably cares more about the price of the sugar...

fritzelly · 25-05-2018 10:03PM

So much for this thread being about the poll...

pleas advice · 25-05-2018 10:03PM

Pac1Man wrote: »

At least Boards remained impartial.

:pac:

25-05-2018 10:04PM

Wow! What a result if accurate. Sample 4000. Plus or minus error of 1.5%.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-times-exit-poll-projects-ireland-has-voted-by-landslide-to-repeal-eighth-amendment-1.3508861

EDIT: RTE's exit poll out just now. Yes: 69.4%, No: 30.6%

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0525/965899-eighth-amendment/

I'll just say 'wow' yet again. Done and dusted surely..........

RasTa · 25-05-2018 10:04PM

YES 68% NO 32%.
@IrishTimes exit poll shows Ireland has voted

Interesting... Don't trust these polls after Trump and Brexit

_Brian · 25-05-2018 10:04PM

Seems to have been a very high turnout.

Threw an eye down the list as I was being marked off and near all names were marked through and that was about half seven.

Ballot box was stuffed too.

fergus1001 · 25-05-2018 10:05PM

Irish Times exit poll says referendum has been a resounding yes vote 68 -32

landslide victory predicted

seamus · 25-05-2018 10:05PM

Irish times exit polls predicting 68% victory for Yes.

That would be incredible.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-times-exit-poll-projects-ireland-has-voted-by-landslide-to-repeal-eighth-amendment-1.3508861?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Shurimgreat · 25-05-2018 10:05PM

Deedsie wrote: »

100%

I listed the current choices available. I am advocating to adding another choice for women in absolutely **** situations. People who voted no today voting against giving people in dreadful situations a choice to decide for themselves. How very ****ing compassionate of them

Another misrepresentation of the vast majority of No voters who are in favour of limited abortion for unfortunate cases but are against unrestricted abortion up to 12 weeks.

martingriff · 25-05-2018 10:05PM

Deedsie wrote: »

I'm no fan of abortions. Horrendous.

Imagine an Irish woman pregnant with a very much wanted baby, at 12 weeks the consultant confirms an FFA with a strong heartbeat. Mothers choices,

Wait to be induced at 32 weeks for the child to die almost immediately,
wait for the babies heart to stop or
travel to Britain and organise an abortion in a foreign country and then bring the baby back to be buried in Ireland.

No voters today voted to keep that as the status quo for Irish women in tragic circumstances. ****en despicable carry on.

Any lads here who voted no, I really hope you don't ever have to hold your distraught wife in the above circumstances and tell her everything is going to be ok.

It's not, not for a long time.

Anyone who voted no was due to the 12 weeks and if they did then I appauld there will to stand up for there morals and not because they are religious nuts or hate women. And for some in the yes campaign to try as paint them as Hitler, women haters, religious nuts or misogynistic is pathetic in my view.

Also as another person said if there is a no for I guarantee in no later then 2 years we would have another referendum to repeal the eight with either no mention about on demand or the term written in the constitution.

kneemos · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

WOAH.

LeinsterDub · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

Someone said earlier boards was 10% ahead on the marriage equality vote. This seems to be holding up.

fergus1001 · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

Irish Times exit poll showing 68-32 victory for yes

Teyla Emmagan · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

OMG exit polls predicting 68% yes!!!!!!!!

YAHOOOOO

Wibbs · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

Deedsie wrote: »

The current situation is an absolute disgrace where horses are treated better than Irish women.

I've read some exaggerated for effect posts in my time, but that one stands out as being completely hysterical and utterly removed from reality. If you truly believe horses are treated better than Irish women I really don't know what to say to you, or anyone else that comes close to believing that nonsense.

fritzelly · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

The poll suggests that the margin of victory for the Yes side in today’s referendum will be 68 to 32 – a stunning victory for the Yes side after a long and often divisive campaign.

Excellent! I said earlier 65-35 if not better - resounding victory for sensible feeling and considerate people of this country

strandroad · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

68 to 32

YES!

sexmag · 25-05-2018 10:06PM

What was the boards one?

Similar I believe

So proud to be Irish at this moment

Try_harder · 25-05-2018 10:07PM

https://twitter.com/patleahyit/status/1000119714641862656?s=21

The Wordress · 25-05-2018 10:07PM

I also beli

Curlysue76 · 25-05-2018 10:07PM

paw patrol wrote: »

I voted No.

But oddly for the same reasons you voted yes.

I'd like the 8th removed but I can';t get away from the proposed legislation.
It's a bad choice on offer and I'm not going to accept it, no matter how much I'd like to accept parts of it. For me the current situation is better than the proposal.

I totally agree with you, had to vote no.

fergus1001 · 25-05-2018 10:07PM

SafeSurfer wrote:

Do you think there was any media bias during the referendum campaign?

personally think the makeyupy figures and scaremongering by iona made a lot of people turn to yes

Shurimgreat · 25-05-2018 10:07PM

fergus1001 wrote: »

Irish Times exit poll says referendum has been a resounding yes vote 68 -32

landslide victory predicted

Sad day for Ireland if so. I feel ashamed to be Irish if that's the way it goes.

Wheeliebin30 · 25-05-2018 10:08PM

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Sad day for Ireland if so. I feel ashamed to be Irish if that's the way it goes.

You can always get a boat.

BarryD2 · 25-05-2018 10:08PM

martingriff wrote: »

Also as another person said if there is a no for I guarantee in no later then 2 years we would have another referendum to repeal the eight with either no mention about on demand or the term written in the constitution.

Are you joking? Don't know what age you are but I'll be 'six feet under' before any Irish government would dare hold another referendum on this issue.

The Wordress · 25-05-2018 10:09PM

I think th

Ronan|Raven · 25-05-2018 10:09PM

Until the first counts come in tomorrow i would not get too excited.

The Wordress · 25-05-2018 10:09PM

I think this is a

The Wordress · 25-05-2018 10:09PM

I think this is a vote that people agree with

Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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