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Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd like to think there won't be any whooping and cheering type celebrations when either result is announced.

    It's not a thing for that kind of celebration.

    Highly doubt it will be the same as the SSM result/celebrations in Dublin castle, but a lot of women weeping with joy at being recognised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I'd say its going to be very close. I've a feeling there is a lot of silent no voters.

    I also think there’s a lot of surface No voters who will end up voting Yes in private.
    The time of the divorce referendum, I was only a sprog. But my aunt was in an abusive marriage. She told everyone she was voting No, as she was too afraid to say she really wanted to vote Yes. She voted Yes and later found out a lot of her friends did the same. And she eventually divorced the dirtbag. Rural Ireland has a funny way of baiting and guilting a more traditional mind into the status quo, but id bet beneath it all a lot of people have a few stories to tell themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd like to think there won't be any whooping and cheering type celebrations when either result is announced.

    It's not a thing for that kind of celebration.

    One side would view their result as liberation; the other would view theirs as salvation.

    I could understand exuberance from either camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    I voted No. Not for religious reasons. As one of the "hard cases" I voted for my baby who lived for an hour after birth. That was her life and she deserved to live her life however short.

    You absolutely deserved that moment with your child. A change to the constitution would not have in anyway changed your choice. This is the bit I have a hard time dealing with. People seem to have the impression that if it's a legal option you would be some how forced or co erched to take it. I'm not have a go at your vote as it's your absolute preference to choose as you wish.
    Thanks,
    Mick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    FWIW, seems to be a steady 4:1 ratio here all day? No big changes. Obviously boards is not a reflection of real voter intention but it maybe reflects a general trend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Lady Spangles


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd like to think there won't be any whooping and cheering type celebrations when either result is announced.

    It's not a thing for that kind of celebration.

    If this law gets repealed, then every woman who has fought tooth and nail to get their rights respected will deserve a little tipple. Possibly even two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    I also think there’s a lot of surface No voters who will end up voting Yes in private.
    The time of the divorce referendum, I was only a sprog. But my aunt was in an abusive marriage. She told everyone she was voting No, as she was too afraid to say she really wanted to vote Yes. She voted Yes and later found out a lot of her friends did the same. Rural Ireland has a funny way of baiting and guilting you into the status quo, but id bet beneath it all a lot of people have a few stories to tell themselves.

    I might be way off the mark but I've a feeling there will be a surprisingly strong yes result. 60 percent plus yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    I also think there’s a lot of surface No voters who will end up voting Yes in private.
    The time of the divorce referendum, I was only a sprog. But my aunt was in an abusive marriage. She told everyone she was voting No, as she was too afraid to say she really wanted to vote Yes. She voted Yes and later found out a lot of her friends did the same. Rural Ireland has a funny way of baiting and guilting you into the status quo, but id bet beneath it all a lot of people have a few stories to tell themselves.

    Yeah, as I said before, we all go into the polling booth alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭WhiteMan32


    I voted Yes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    I might be way off the mark but I've a feeling there will be a surprisingly strong yes result. 60 percent plus yes.

    My father is convinced it’ll be 60/40 yes/no. I don’t share his optimism!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Overheal wrote: »
    One side would view their result as liberation; the other would view theirs as salvation.

    I could understand exuberance from either camp.

    If Yes wins I don't expect much celebration as such and no real lasting bitterness. After all those who are implacably opposed to abortion can quite happily carry on as before in their lives.

    In No wins though, I do expect considerable bitterness as the reverse applies and their position is forced on those that don't agree with them.

    Let's hope for Yes :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,852 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Pretty certain it's going to be a yes, somewhere between 55 and 60%.

    The real fun will be when it comes to getting the abortion legislation through the Dàil, I feel FF could very well collapse the Government over wording.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Cakes and Ale


    I would hope there are no celebrations whichever way the vote goes. It's not as if there are winners in this debate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,614 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    My father is convinced it’ll be 60/40 yes/no. I don’t share his optimism!

    I think it will be around that too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I found today a lot more difficult than I thought, I voted yes in the end however I was thorn up to the end, my conscience ate at me all the way, deep down I really don’t like the idea of abortion I also definitely don’t like the catholic church or particularly the Iona institute they’re religious fanatics, It’s just purely my gut reaction to it doesn’t sit right with me and nothing to do with religion, However I made the decision purely because it is a woman’s own choice to make and because cases like the Savita Case cannot happen again. I’m sure it’ll be a landslide I personally won’t see it as something to celebrate rather something that had to be done to avoid cases like savita happening ever again.

    Just a note you do know that Savita died because of medical misadventure of not correctly diagnosing sepsics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    A reluctant yes. I don't agree with some aspects of the proposed legislation, think abortion is morally wrong (although not where there are health issues and rape), but at the same time the current status quo isn't really tenable any more.

    I voted No.

    But oddly for the same reasons you voted yes.

    I'd like the 8th removed but I can';t get away from the proposed legislation.
    It's a bad choice on offer and I'm not going to accept it, no matter how much I'd like to accept parts of it. For me the current situation is better than the proposal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    _Dara_ wrote: »
    My father is convinced it’ll be 60/40 yes/no. I don’t share his optimism!

    I'm thinking 55 45


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Took my 85 year old father to vote this morning. He voted Yes for his great granddaughter who is too young to vote but biologically not too young to get pregnant.
    My sister - also Yes - took my 83 year old mother to vote - she's a solid Yes and has been against this amendment since '83.
    Myself, my partner, and my son voted about 7:30 this evening. Another 3 for Yes.

    I have never seen my local polling station so busy. There were cars double parking so people could get in to vote.

    They also had complaints about No posters being put up after they opened this morning less than 10 feet from the school walls. I saw one myself, wasn't there at 8 am - was there when I passed again at 3 pm. Gone by 4 pm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,261 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Lollipop95 wrote: »
    I voted yes. I REALLY hope the yes side wins but I fear there are a lot of silent no voters who are afraid to voice their opinion as they are afraid of backlash. That fact should not be glossed over. It will be extremely close imo

    People feared the same with the SSM referendum and those fears were not realised.
    2 words, Brexit Trump

    After those two I think people learned that the there’s no sure thing and even if your side is sitting comfortably in the polls. You can’t rely on others to vote as they may be sitting at home thinking the others will vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    paw patrol wrote: »
    I voted No.

    But oddly for the same reasons you voted yes.

    I'd like the 8th removed but I can';t get away from the proposed legislation.
    It's a bad choice on offer and I'm not going to accept it, no matter how much I'd like to accept parts of it. For me the current situation is better than the proposal.

    Not really equivalent though, a referendum/amendment and a law. To me it sounds like a vote against a repealing a constitutional ban on owning a car because your first car wasn't going to be the one you wanted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Celestial12


    I voted yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,111 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Anyone know when the IT will publish their poll results?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    118,000 recently registered voters, approaching 60% turnout. I was worried this might be a no vote but those stats are strongly suggesting healthy win for the yes vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Took my 85 year old father to vote this morning. He voted Yes for his great granddaughter who is too young to vote but biologically not too young to get pregnant.
    My sister - also Yes - took my 83 year old mother to vote - she's a solid Yes and has been against this amendment since '83.
    Myself, my partner, and my son voted about 7:30 this evening. Another 3 for Yes.

    I have never seen my local polling station so busy. There were cars double parking so people could get in to vote.

    They also had complaints about No posters being put up after they opened this morning less than 10 feet from the school walls. I saw one myself, wasn't there at 8 am - was there when I passed again at 3 pm. Gone by 4 pm.

    I got a real sense of change at the polling station this evening. I dunno just felt people want to make a change. Might be reading to much into It. Also think the older generation have lost respect for the church so the moral direction it had is for the most part shattered. 35 years ago if a priest said vote no then full churches of people voted that way. Now maybe 30 percent full churches and maybe 30 percent of mass goers would follow direction like that. I'm a mass goer myself so not having a go but its not nearly as a determining factor in societel decision making as it would have been.

    Looking forward to seeing some exit polls.

    PS annoyed me how no campaigners were on m50 flyovers today..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,339 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Deedsie wrote: »
    You shouldn't feel in anyway bad. You didn't vote for abortions.. you voted to give people in awful situations more choices. Keep your head up. Repeal or retain you chose to do eight by Irish women.

    I say most people like me and the message voted yes after going back and forth did sue to the hard cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    EPAndlee wrote: »
    Anyone not bother to vote?

    +1

    Vote yes = unborn babies can be unnecessarily killed
    Vote no = genuine cases denied care and can possibly die

    Unnecessary harm no matter what way you vote...

    Neither sits right in my moral compass and there's a middle ground left unexplored because of a ridiculous government, that probably would have satisfied the majority of the electorate.

    I don't actually care what side wins., I'm just glad Im not playing a part in that unnecessary harm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭Movementarian


    I was unable to respond to this at the time as the thread was closed immediately after. Suffice it to say its another huge lie from a Yes sider. I never ever said it was ok to have 10 year old rape victims. If you bothered to read my previous posts I continually said hard cases such as rape victims should have access to abortion.

    Sad that a lie got so many thanks but I guess that's "modern Ireland" for you. A lot of people have only a passing regard for the truth.

    I think what got the thanks was the rest of my post where I asked where you got figures from etc. The part you 'forgot' to include above and never replied to. But thats par for the course with you I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,194 ✭✭✭micks_address


    pone2012 wrote: »
    +1

    Vote yes = unborn babies can be unnecessarily killed
    Vote no = genuine cases denied care and can possibly die

    Unnecessary harm no matter what way you vote...

    Neither sits right in my moral compass and there's a middle ground left unexplored because of a ridiculous government, that probably would have satisfied the majority of the electorate.

    I don't actually care what side wins., I'm just glad Im not playing a part in that unnecessary harm

    By not voting you effectively voted no.


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