RayCun wrote: » All this talk about a middle ground that was missed... It's bollocks. The citizens assembly were not full of people looking for the widest possible abortion law. They were people looking for a sensible compromise, and when they listened to the stories of women who had abortions, and to doctors, and to lawyers, they gradually realized that you can't legislate for a bunch of narrowly defined edge cases, because that only creates new edge cases you haven't thought of. You need flexibility, trust, and respect. And the same when the debate moved to the Dail. Do you think Varadkar and Martin and Coveney expected to be proposing this legislation? But they listened, and they came to the same realization. Because in the end, there isn't a middle ground. Either you trust women to make their own decisions, and take them as seriously as you would, whether they come to the same conclusion or not. Or you think they have to be prevented from making decisions, in case they decide to do something you don't approve of.
milhous wrote: » You don't know how your wife feels about abortion? I find that bizzare.
Pac1Man wrote: » At least Boards remained impartial.
YES 68% NO 32%.@IrishTimes exit poll shows Ireland has voted
Deedsie wrote: » 100% I listed the current choices available. I am advocating to adding another choice for women in absolutely **** situations. People who voted no today voting against giving people in dreadful situations a choice to decide for themselves. How very ****ing compassionate of them
Deedsie wrote: » I'm no fan of abortions. Horrendous. Imagine an Irish woman pregnant with a very much wanted baby, at 12 weeks the consultant confirms an FFA with a strong heartbeat. Mothers choices, Wait to be induced at 32 weeks for the child to die almost immediately, wait for the babies heart to stop or travel to Britain and organise an abortion in a foreign country and then bring the baby back to be buried in Ireland. No voters today voted to keep that as the status quo for Irish women in tragic circumstances. ****en despicable carry on. Any lads here who voted no, I really hope you don't ever have to hold your distraught wife in the above circumstances and tell her everything is going to be ok. It's not, not for a long time.
Deedsie wrote: » The current situation is an absolute disgrace where horses are treated better than Irish women.
The poll suggests that the margin of victory for the Yes side in today’s referendum will be 68 to 32 – a stunning victory for the Yes side after a long and often divisive campaign.
paw patrol wrote: » I voted No. But oddly for the same reasons you voted yes. I'd like the 8th removed but I can';t get away from the proposed legislation. It's a bad choice on offer and I'm not going to accept it, no matter how much I'd like to accept parts of it. For me the current situation is better than the proposal.
SafeSurfer wrote: Do you think there was any media bias during the referendum campaign?
fergus1001 wrote: » Irish Times exit poll says referendum has been a resounding yes vote 68 -32 landslide victory predicted
Shurimgreat wrote: » Sad day for Ireland if so. I feel ashamed to be Irish if that's the way it goes.
martingriff wrote: » Also as another person said if there is a no for I guarantee in no later then 2 years we would have another referendum to repeal the eight with either no mention about on demand or the term written in the constitution.