Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

ted1 · 22-05-2018 10:50AM

beerbaron wrote: »

ted1 wrote: »

I’d say he is the prime suspect in the attacks in Shankill and Bayview last year.

Why ? Does his description match that given by the women in their accounts ?

Or just simple dot connecting ?

From Ballybrack and living in Shankill. So central to where the attacks happened
Some if the attacks happened in the middle of the day on a public street.
So similar enough to the way he grabbed the girl. The Garda didn’t realise a description as it was to broad

wakka12 · 22-05-2018 10:51AM

Gardai will perform DNA analysis to establish whether Mark Hennessy may be linked to the disapperances of several women in Leinster over the last twenty years including Fiona Pender, Deirdre Jacob, Annie McCarrick, Jo Jo Dullard, Fiona Sinnott, Eva Brennan and Ciara Breen, and also the unsolved murder of Raonaid Murray (17) in Glenageary, south Dublin, in 1999.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-to-check-for-links-between-hennessy-and-unsolved-cases-1.3503563

Gardai also currently cant find any prior connection between Jastine and Mark.

Textronic · 22-05-2018 10:53AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Gardai will perform DNA analysis to establish whether Mark Hennessy may be linked to the disapperances of several women in Leinster over the last twenty years including Fiona Pender, Deirdre Jacob, Annie McCarrick, Jo Jo Dullard, Fiona Sinnott, Eva Brennan and Ciara Breen, and also the unsolved murder of Raonaid Murray (17) in Glenageary, south Dublin, in 1999.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-to-check-for-links-between-hennessy-and-unsolved-cases-1.3503563

How would that work ?

beerbaron · 22-05-2018 10:54AM

ted1 wrote: »

From Ballybrack and living in Shankill. So central to where the attacks happened
Some if the attacks happened in the middle of the day on a public street.
So similar enough to the way he grabbed the girl. The Garda didn’t realise a description as it was to broad

He lived in Bray. Read one of, or any of the articles over the last few days.

wakka12 · 22-05-2018 10:54AM

Textronic wrote: »

How would that work ?

Not sure tbh, maybe theres items belonging to the women around or something

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 10:56AM

beerbaron wrote: »

He lived in Bray. Read one of, or any of the articles over the last few days.

He's originally from Ballybrack.

seamus · 22-05-2018 10:59AM

Textronic wrote: »

How would that work ?

Not sure what you mean?

From the evidence they've collected on those cases, they'll have performed DNA analyses on what they've found, and that data forms part of the evidence in those cases.

They then take Hennessy's DNA profile and compare it against them to see if there's a match. Pretty routine at this stage.

Suckit · 22-05-2018 11:01AM

Textronic wrote: »

How would that work ?

Forensics may have found DNA at the scenes, and check if any of them match his DNA.

22-05-2018 11:04AM

Suckit wrote: »

Forensics may have found DNA at the scenes, and check if any of them match his DNA.

There are no "scenes" for many of those disappearances.

The Nal · 22-05-2018 11:04AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Not sure tbh, maybe theres items belonging to the women around or something

And they have a general area to start searching now.

Annie McCarrick went missing in 1993 though. Hennessey would've been 15 at the time. Unlikely.

punisher5112 · 22-05-2018 11:11AM

The Nal wrote: »

And they have a general area to start searching now.

Annie McCarrick went missing in 1993 though. Hennessey would've been 15 at the time. Unlikely.

Unlikely but still very possible for a 15 year old to carry out crimes...
Look at the UK for example with the 2 10 year olds that obducted the little child....

Crazy stuff altogether.

McMurphy · 22-05-2018 11:11AM

According to the news there at midday, the guards are still (so far as they can tell) under the impression that he has no known connections with the poor girl, and the abduction was completely at random.

Could have been any of our daughters, sisters, wives or girlfriends.

Ireland's a somewhat safer country now that he's gone off to meet his maker.

MaccaTacca · 22-05-2018 11:15AM

beerbaron wrote: »

He lived in Bray. Read one of, or any of the articles over the last few days.

Think the posters linking him with reported attacks in Shankill last year. Bray is only about 1.5 km away so very conceivable.

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 11:16AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

According to the news there at midday, the guards are still (so far as they can tell) under the impression that he has no known connections with the poor girl, and the abduction was completely at random.

Could have been any of our daughters, sisters, wives or girlfriends.

Ireland's a somewhat safer country now that he's gone off to meet his maker.

Also, people always assume he must have struck before but there has to be a first time and by sounds of it, this may well have been.

Suckit · 22-05-2018 11:21AM

kingofclay wrote: »

Also, people always assume he must have struck before but there has to be a first time and by sounds of it, this may well have been.

By the sounds of it, it wasn't. She speaks a lot of crap, but that does sound more plausible.

iguana · 22-05-2018 11:29AM

I've watched the videos of Mark Hennessy that so many people find "chilling" and there is nothing weird about them at all. In the car one, he's obviously agreed to be filmed saying he's super happy with his car as some part of deal with the car salesman. He's just a bit awkward and fake as he's not an actor but he wants the free car mats or whatever is being offered in exchange for being in the video. In the second he could be any guy you'd see in a pub. Drunk and possibly being a bit of a dick but nothing that would set off major alarm bells. If those videos were in the media because he'd been killed in a tragic car accident people would just think he seemed like a normal guy. There is nothing about him in either video that screams murderer. Because that's the thing with many murderers, they don't go through life giving off creepy killer vibes.

irishrover99 · 22-05-2018 11:30AM

Its crazy how many black Nissan Qashqai's i seen today.
It must have been 10 or more on a cycle out to Howth to collect my car.
A usually very uninteresting car has now become an image they everyone will remember.

It really could become Ireland's White Ford Bronco.

BarryD2 · 22-05-2018 11:30AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

Its not known if she was murdered at Rathmichael . Could have been Killiney Hill or any of the other places he drove to .

Sure Killiney Hill is busy with people at all times of the daylight hours. This is all great suburban Dublin, on a fine enough summers day. Where do you murder someone in a public place in this area in the early evening hours? Without someone hearing, noticing??

Maybe he did and just chanced on a quiet five minutes somewhere. But couldn't have possibly planned it so, the chances of being rumbled way far exceed the likelihood of privacy.

Stonedpilot · 22-05-2018 11:31AM

So now the tabloid media have all this stuff

Weirdo, Monster , chilling, creep etc etc. All buzzwords to disguise the fact they have little more than a Garda press release to go on and the rest of their "report" is filler and fluff.

Killers dont have 40 heads and blue skin.

Often pyschopaths are very charming confident people. Look at Ted Bundy.

I once briefly met a guy about a year ago. What struck me about him was he was extremley confident and proud and spoke in a commanding forthright way. Very noticeable his confidence.
I later found out the same guy killed two people in a drunken rage 20 years ago.

Point is devils dont go around with horns on their head.

The media will have a field day despite the fact they know none of the details.

kunst nugget · 22-05-2018 11:33AM

iguana wrote: »

I've watched the videos of Mark Hennessy that so many people find "chilling" and there is nothing weird about them at all. In the car one, he's obviously agreed to be filmed saying he's super happy with his car as some part of deal with the car salesman. He's just a bit awkward and fake as he's not an actor but he wants the free car mats or whatever is being offered in exchange for being in the video. In the second he could be any guy you'd see in a pub. Drunk and possibly being a bit of a dick but nothing that would set off major alarm bells. If those videos were in the media because he'd been killed in a tragic car accident people would just think he seemed like a normal guy. There is nothing about him in either video that screams murderer. Because that's the thing with many murderers, they don't go through life giving off creepy killer vibes.

People see what they want to see in those videos. Knowing what he's done, they'll see beady eyes, perverted grins and unnatural stares…

ted1 · 22-05-2018 11:37AM

beerbaron wrote: »

ted1 wrote: »

From Ballybrack and living in Shankill. So central to where the attacks happened
Some if the attacks happened in the middle of the day on a public street.
So similar enough to the way he grabbed the girl. The Garda didn’t realise a description as it was to broad

He lived in Bray. Read one of, or any of the articles over the last few days.

Sorry meant to say let bing in Bray, Shankill is half way between the two and he seems to socialise in Ballybrack

fatknacker · 22-05-2018 11:38AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

According to the news there at midday, the guards are still (so far as they can tell) under the impression that he has no known connections with the poor girl, and the abduction was completely at random.

Could have been any of our daughters, sisters, wives or girlfriends.

Ireland's a somewhat safer country now that he's gone off to meet his maker.

Not safer for much longer if speculation is true about teens killing Ana. The next generation of violent psychos are emerging.

tara73 · 22-05-2018 11:39AM

iguana wrote: »

I've watched the videos of Mark Hennessy that so many people find "chilling" and there is nothing weird about them at all. In the car one, he's obviously agreed to be filmed saying he's super happy with his car as some part of deal with the car salesman. He's just a bit awkward and fake as he's not an actor but he wants the free car mats or whatever is being offered in exchange for being in the video. In the second he could be any guy you'd see in a pub. Drunk and possibly being a bit of a dick but nothing that would set off major alarm bells. If those videos were in the media because he'd been killed in a tragic car accident people would just think he seemed like a normal guy. There is nothing about him in either video that screams murderer. Because that's the thing with many murderers, they don't go through life giving off creepy killer vibes.

thinking the same.

his moves and whole attitude is awkward, but now, you know what he's done, the brain automatically makes a creepy, horrible appearance out of it .

seeing this videos, havn't known what he's done, almost everybody would think he's just some a bit awkward, drunk guy which you meet daily numerous times in pubs.

thinking it's interesting how the brain tricks you.

McMurphy · 22-05-2018 11:40AM

iguana wrote: »

I've watched the videos of Mark Hennessy that so many people find "chilling" and there is nothing weird about them at all. In the car one, he's obviously agreed to be filmed saying he's super happy with his car as some part of deal with the car salesman. He's just a bit awkward and fake as he's not an actor but he wants the free car mats or whatever is being offered in exchange for being in the video. In the second he could be any guy you'd see in a pub. Drunk and possibly being a bit of a dick but nothing that would set off major alarm bells. If those videos were in the media because he'd been killed in a tragic car accident people would just think he seemed like a normal guy. There is nothing about him in either video that screams murderer. Because that's the thing with many murderers, they don't go through life giving off creepy killer vibes.

Have to disagree there slightly.

If, and it's an if - but if has been suggested, that the video in the pub was indeed filmed on Saturday night, after he did what he did.

I personally find it both chilling and creepy that he was in a bar, tanked up, surrounded by women, him knowing that he did what he did a very short time beforehand, literally with blood on his hands.

Again this is an if, but if it is footage from Saturday night, I reckon the ladies in the video will have some chill going up their spines viewing the footage now when they rewatch it.

However to play devils advocate, if it was filmed on any other night unrelated to this tragic case, I'd agree, all it shows is q drunken lad in a pub trying to fit in with a group who don't appear to want anything to do with him.

Could be any pub in the country with any random group of folk any Saturday night.

Pawwed Rig · 22-05-2018 11:41AM

Mod note

This is a final warning.

Speculation of any kind is not allowed here. You can discuss articles, news reports or any factual aspect of the case. You can sympathise, you can ask why. Making up what ifs is not allowed

I did not think I would ever have to say this but ANYONE who disrespects Jastine Valdez in this thread is getting an immediate ban from this forum. Some of the crap I have had to read this morning has angered me more than anything I have read on this site before.

This poor girl has a family and friends. She was 24 years old and is being mourned. If people do not have respect then they are not welcome here.

For the majority who have posted in a respectful manner we thank you. Please report any posts that require moderator attention.

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 11:41AM

tbh though he looks like a creep and strange, but it doesn't mean he was a murderer just he was born with a look that to me would be typecast as a pervert.

wakka12 · 22-05-2018 11:42AM

fatknacker wrote: »

Not safer for much longer if speculation is true about teens killing Ana. The next generation of violent psychos are emerging.

Those boys, who are only suspects, are 13 and mark is 40 so not even same generation if that was even a thing

suemurray · 22-05-2018 11:45AM

humberklog wrote: »

I've gone googling stats for this as I was curious about your statement but I haven't came up with a site that gives a decent breakdown of attacks on women out by themselves specifically.
Could you point me in the direction of where you get your facts?

An asian lady was attacked with acid in south dublin six months ago, another asian lady was attacked by knife in dun loagaire couple of months. Cases not connected. Raonaid murray stabbed at killed in 1999 in south dublin - unsolved case to this day and they are only cases local to me

iamwhoiam · 22-05-2018 12:39PM

The Go Fund me page is a few pages back so I hope people dont mind me posting it again . It is incredible , at ten this morning it was €10k and now its €30 k .Lovely to see the support and love for Jastines family

https://ie.gofundme.com/jastine-valdez-memorial

Grayson · 22-05-2018 12:42PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Have to disagree there slightly.

If, and it's an if - but if has been suggested, that the video in the pub was indeed filmed on Saturday night, after he did what he did.

I personally find it both chilling and creepy that he was in a bar, tanked up, surrounded by women, him knowing that he did what he did a very short time beforehand, literally with blood on his hands.

Again this is an if, but if it is footage from Saturday night, I reckon the ladies in the video will have some chill going up their spines viewing the footage now when they rewatch it.

However to play devils advocate, if it was filmed on any other night unrelated to this tragic case, I'd agree, all it shows is q drunken lad in a pub trying to fit in with a group who don't appear to want anything to do with him.

Could be any pub in the country with any random group of folk any Saturday night.

yep, like you said it's putting it in context. By itself the video's seem like a normal bloke. If you passed him in a pub you wouldn't think anything. That's why some people are saying that it's far fetched that others are saying they see something creepy about him.

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

Comments