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BettyBoo2011 · 22-05-2018 09:35AM

Apologies I see the line about outreach ireland on it- just a sentence though. I’m going to call them to confirm they are involved and getting the money to her parents and I will gladly be donating then.

BettyBoo2011 wrote: »

Thanks.

That seems to be the same page. Where are you seeing it’s set up by Outreach Ireland?

I’m trying to confirm the validity of the page and that any money being raised (which is already sizeable) is going straight to her family. The last thing anyone wants is some other scumbag taking advantage which seems to often happen with Go Fund me pages ( I hope that’s not the case with this one but am following up to check)

iamwhoiam · 22-05-2018 09:38AM

BettyBoo2011 wrote: »

Apologies I see the line about outreach ireland on it- just a sentence though. I’m going to call them to confirm they are involved and getting the money to her parents and I will gladly be donating then.

I just saw this and it might help

Raymond Garrett, director of operations at Outreach Ireland, a Filipino community group, told Morning Ireland that “there’s no words” to describe the tragedy.

Then when you go into the gofundme page the organiser is the same name

About the Organizer
Raymond Garrett
322 Facebook Friends
Fundraising Team:
Fundraising Team
This person will receive your donation directly.
All payments are final and cannot be refunded.

22-05-2018 09:39AM

Uncharted wrote: »

Just found out this morning that he used to work on the same construction site as myself.

He worked as a crane banksman in Dun Laoghaire.

I dont remember him because our paths would not have crossed but others who recall him being there say he was as quiet as a mouse with a shy awkward demeanour. As ordinary as the next guy. Mad stuff.

Seems he might have been naturally very socially maladjusted and relied on substances, drink & drugs, which had a disastrous effect on his behaviour. As the guards say, there will no doubt be a history of violent events that might have not gone this far. He might have made hopeless attempts to give up the drink, it will all emerge. He might have been like an angel with his family at home, but then went out on drunken sprees of antisocial behaviour.

Ms2011 · 22-05-2018 09:43AM

Part of me (selfishly) would like for them to have known each other. I am a female who regularly walks alone for exercise and the thoughts that some random passer by could abduct you in a car frightens the bejayus out of me

Wheety · 22-05-2018 09:45AM

It's also on the Outeach website

http://outreachireland.com/index.php/jastine-valdez-memorial-fund/

Don't know much about Outreach but did see the Philippine ambassador was over from London and was brought to a restaurant owned by Raymond Garrett. Fecking Irish charities

Anyway, not to take away from this, but I think the fundraising is genuine. Lots of papers running with it too.

Uncharted · 22-05-2018 09:45AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Seems he might have been naturally very socially maladjusted and relied on substances, drink & drugs, which had a disastrous effect on his behaviour. As the guards say, there will no doubt be a history of violent events that might have not gone this far. He might have made hopeless attempts to give up the drink, it will all emerge. He might have been like an angel with his family at home, but then went out on drunken sprees of antisocial behaviour.

Who knows. It's an indication of one thing though. You just don't know what people are capable of when the sh1t hits the fan.

BettyBoo2011 · 22-05-2018 09:46AM

Thanks a mill. Great to see something set up to help the family.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I just saw this and it might help

Raymond Garrett, director of operations at Outreach Ireland, a Filipino community group, told Morning Ireland that “there’s no words” to describe the tragedy.

Then when you go into the gofundme page the organiser is the same name

About the Organizer
Raymond Garrett
322 Facebook Friends
Fundraising Team:
Fundraising Team
This person will receive your donation directly.
All payments are final and cannot be refunded.

22-05-2018 09:50AM

Omackeral wrote: »

At least there is some moderation here in fairness and its not purely knee jerk mob rule

Captain Obvious · 22-05-2018 09:59AM

Gardai now believe that Ms Valdez' suspected abductor and killer, Mark Hennessy, may have killed her within an hour of the abduction before dumping the body in the remote location.

I'm kinda glad to hear this in that it rules out some disturbing possibilities. I hope the note he left explains what happened.

Textronic · 22-05-2018 10:03AM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I'm kinda glad to hear this in that it rules out some disturbing possibilities. I hope the note he left explains what happened.

The note will prob be self-excusatory as usual

Sundew · 22-05-2018 10:08AM

BettyBoo2011 wrote: »

Thanks.

That seems to be the same page. Where are you seeing it’s set up by Outreach Ireland?

I’m trying to confirm the validity of the page and that any money being raised (which is already sizeable) is going straight to her family. The last thing anyone wants is some other scumbag taking advantage which seems to often happen with Go Fund me pages ( I hope that’s not the case with this one but am following up to check)

Definitely legit. Also hear a guy from Outreach Ireland being interviewed by Pat Kenny on Newstalk earlier and the details for the page were given out.
Bettyboo Multitasking here and hadnt seen your other post

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 10:13AM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I'm kinda glad to hear this in that it rules out some disturbing possibilities. I hope the note he left explains what happened.

Yeah, I mean the end result is still the same but for Jastines' sake I hope that she knew him and that she didn't have to go through extended anguish and torment. Still horrible, still dreadful way to spend your last hour on earth, but if it was my sister, knowing she wasn't at the mercy of some screwball for 24 hours before her death would help a small bit in the grieving process.

That's my perspective as an outsider, if it was my sister who endured the same faith I would wager I'd find it hard to distinguish between the two.

22-05-2018 10:17AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

Did he return home on Sat night, or stay in his car after the pub?
Or maybe he stayed somewhere else?

Was he in a pub Saturday night ?

There is no evidence to suggest he was

Mrsmum · 22-05-2018 10:17AM

kingofclay wrote: »

Yeah, I mean the end result is still the same but for Jastines' sake I hope that she knew him and that she didn't have to go through extended anguish and torment. Still horrible, still dreadful way to spend your last hour on earth, but if it was my sister, knowing she wasn't at the mercy of some screwball for 24 hours before her death would help a small bit in the grieving process.

That's my perspective as an outsider, if it was my sister who endured the same faith I would wager I'd find it hard to distinguish between the two.

But if they were known to each other, surely there would be no need to grab her from the side of the road ??

o1s1n · 22-05-2018 10:21AM

Mrsmum wrote: »

But if they were known to each other, surely there would be no need to grab her from the side of the road ??

If you were going to snatch someone you knew then this is exactly what you would do.

Wait for them at the dodgy part of their commute home.

Suckit · 22-05-2018 10:21AM

Just reading over the posts since yesterday and the seriousness and tragedy seems to have escaped many

.

As for

AnneFrank wrote: »

No I value all life, I'm sickened by it, god bless her poor family Rip

Obviously "all life" just doesn't include Jastine Valdez ahead of your bullshít agenda :mad:.
Posts are possiby worse than all the twitter crap combined.

Were the reports that the video of him in the pub confirmed to be taken on Saturday night? A few news sources saying it was :eek::mad::mad::mad:.

Nicola Tallant on RTE made one good point about the abduction. The speed and precision in which he did it, could mean that he has done it before.

Very sad. Pure and utter scumbag.

Textronic · 22-05-2018 10:22AM

o1s1n wrote: »

If you were going to snatch someone you knew then this is exactly what you would do.

Wait for them at the dodgy part of their commute home.

I doubt that

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 10:23AM

My theory originally was that he wouldn't punch her to get her into the car if he knew her. He would have coerced her in through a sense of ownership as in 'You really have no other option but to get into the car' and then sort of slowed up got out and ushered her in before she could realise that I probably should run here. However, if the speculation is true then perhaps he was more vengeful and that would explain punching Jastine. It ties into her time of death as well. I'm not sure if we can talk about it here, I mean it's a discussion board but I don't know what the line is between discussion and distasteful speculation.

whiskeyman · 22-05-2018 10:26AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Was he in a pub Saturday night ?

There is no evidence to suggest he was

Reported in the Irish Mirror and possibly linking the video to it.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/psycho-killer-kidnapper-mark-hennessys-12575654

Mrsmum · 22-05-2018 10:27AM

o1s1n wrote: »

If you were going to snatch someone you knew then this is exactly what you would do.

Wait for them at the dodgy part of their commute home.

I don't think you would do that at all if there was any sort of relationship between you. Apart from gang hits, hardly anyone gets snatched because there's no need if you know (are involved with) the other person. However if it was a sort of stalking situation, yeah probably then.

BettyBoo2011 · 22-05-2018 10:28AM

Thanks a mill - yes great to see this. I’ve donated now and hope any support available will help the family.

Sundew wrote: »

Definitely legit. Also hear a guy from Outreach Ireland being interviewed by Pat Kenny on Newstalk earlier and the details for the page were given out.
Bettyboo Multitasking here and hadnt seen your other post

22-05-2018 10:30AM

whiskeyman wrote: »

Reported in the Irish Mirror and possibly linking the video to it.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/psycho-killer-kidnapper-mark-hennessys-12575654

The video and pictures of him in a pub are not necissarly from Saturday, they are just him in a pub.

The article does howerver say he was seen in a pub Saturday, not sure how reliable that is, it's a tabloid after all.

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 10:32AM

From the Mirror...'chilling videos emerged of him picking up the quashqai' He looks like an absolute creep but the video is hardly chilling.

Anyway, thankfully his kids are so young, they'll learn about it eventually but they won't have to grow up in the immediate backlash of the incident. Maybe for their sake and their mum, they should go somewhere and start afresh.

BarryD2 · 22-05-2018 10:35AM

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I'm kinda glad to hear this in that it rules out some disturbing possibilities. I hope the note he left explains what happened.

Still not clear as to how he managed to murder this poor girl at Rathmichael at around 7pm on a Saturday evening without anyone hearing something/ reporting this. Not exactly out in the wilderness, almost suburbia these days.

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 10:36AM

BarryD2 wrote: »

Still not clear as to how he managed to murder this poor girl at Rathmichael at around 7pm on a Saturday evening without anyone hearing something/ reporting this. Not exactly out in the wilderness, almost suburbia these days.

And 7pm feels like afternoon this time of year on a nice day.

allthedoyles · 22-05-2018 10:38AM

BarryD2 wrote: »

Still not clear as to how he managed to murder this poor girl at Rathmichael at around 7pm on a Saturday evening without anyone hearing something/ reporting this. Not exactly out in the wilderness, almost suburbia these days.

Its not known if she was murdered at Rathmichael . Could have been Killiney Hill or any of the other places he drove to .

cavemeister · 22-05-2018 10:39AM

BarryD2 wrote: »

Still not clear as to how he managed to murder this poor girl at Rathmichael at around 7pm on a Saturday evening without anyone hearing something/ reporting this. Not exactly out in the wilderness, almost suburbia these days.

I'm guessing he had plans but once he realised he had been seen and was all over the news (assuming he had the car radio on) he panicked and decided to do what he did - Him not being seen near the gorse is probably fluke. I'd say 9 times out of ten, you would have been seen.

ted1 · 22-05-2018 10:42AM

Suckit wrote: »

Just reading over the posts since yesterday and the seriousness and tragedy seems to have escaped many .

As for

AnneFrank wrote: »

No I value all life, I'm sickened by it, god bless her poor family Rip

Obviously "all life" just doesn't include Jastine Valdez ahead of your bullshít agenda :mad:.
Posts are possiby worse than all the twitter crap combined.

Were the reports that the video of him in the pub confirmed to be taken on Saturday night? A few news sources saying it was :eek::mad::mad::mad:.

Nicola Tallant on RTE made one good point about the abduction. The speed and precision in which he did it, could mean that he has done it before.

Very sad. Pure and utter scumbag.

I’d say he is the prime suspect in the attacks in Shankill and Bayview last year.

kingofclay · 22-05-2018 10:44AM

'Early 30's and skinny build' Only thing is the attacker wasn't described as short which this guy seems to have been. He looks old in the suit picture, but there is another picture much more recent and despite being balding he doesn't look like he's that old.

beerbaron · 22-05-2018 10:47AM

ted1 wrote: »

I’d say he is the prime suspect in the attacks in Shankill and Bayview last year.

Why ? Does his description match that given by the women in their accounts ?

Or just simple dot connecting ?

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