Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

uck51js9zml2yt · 20-05-2018 10:43PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

is that the one that the gardai eventually killed a mentally unstable man who harbored a long term grudge against the gardai for trying to take his gun away from him armed with a shot gun after he fired a large number of shots at them, having wounded him in the legs and arms before resorting to a fatal shot.

the one where they were criticized international for not shooting to kill much earlier

you haven't a clue mate and you shouldn't bother expressing an opinion about something you know nothing about

As this thread shows, everyone can have an opinion:)

spurious · 20-05-2018 10:44PM

Has there been a time and location given for when the 'woman in a distressed state' was seen in the car?

kingofclay · 20-05-2018 10:45PM

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

That's so messed up. Imagine having to take them calls or put up a Facebook or Instagram status saying you're alive.

By sounds of it, lingering around Cherrywood indicates that he might have been having an 'Oh fuuuck, what have I done' crisis. We need to get a time and location on where there was sightings of Jastine in distress. I fear the worst but pray she is alive. Being abducted is one of my great fears, in fact I only dreamed I was abducted cycling en route to Enniskerry last week.

CZ 453 · 20-05-2018 10:45PM

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

That's not an easy call to make. I can imagine the relief.

Suckit · 20-05-2018 10:47PM

I'm not on twitter but often use it to follow stories up to date etc.
But there are some nuts accounts to put it politely.

"Irelands Underworld" @Dublingangland... wtf?

They name him after the Mirror printed his name, and they tweet it followed by R.I.P.

Naturally someone calls them out on that and says "R.I.P? He kidnapped a woman!"

To which they reply "He’s was still a human being.If you have any information on him kidnapping someone can let us know.Thanks"

Ehmm... yes. If anyone has any information on him kidnapping, @Dublingangland will be the first point of contact..

AnneFrank · 20-05-2018 10:48PM

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

What if she was lying !

Tippex · 20-05-2018 10:49PM

Conservatory wrote: »

I’d say it’s likely he went out the night before like the wife said and went on a bender and sobered up getting shot by a Garda.
None of us have any idea but suggesting the girl was having an affair with a married man is a bit distasteful I think.

I have not seen any other post other than this suggesting what you have posted.

thebull85 · 20-05-2018 10:49PM

Suckit wrote: »

I'm not on twitter but often use it to follow stories up to date etc.
But there are some nuts accounts to put it politely.

"Irelands Underworld" @Dublingangland... wtf?

They name him after the Mirror pronted his name, and they tweet it followed by R.I.P.

Naturally someone calls them out on that and says "R.I.P? He kidnapped a woman!"

To which they reply "He’s was still a human being.If you have any information on him kidnapping someone can let us know.Thanks"

Ehmm... yes. If anyone has any information on him kidnapping, @Dublingangland will be the first point of contact..

I think most of those accounts are run by the one fruitcake, she was named on here before.
She was writing letters to Graham Dwyer in prison.

Suckit · 20-05-2018 10:50PM

spurious wrote: »

Has there been a time and location given for when the 'woman in a distressed state' was seen in the car?

Not that I have seen, here is the "timeline" of events. It is pretty poor, i am guessing that somebody will clean it up

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/timeline-events-man-shot-dead-12569468

kingofclay · 20-05-2018 10:52PM

Is a search ongoing? I'm surprised I haven't heard a helicopter since 9pm. Where do you even begin to look? Realistically, how was she not in the car?

Conservatory · 20-05-2018 10:52PM

Tippex wrote: »

I have not seen any other post other than this suggesting what you have posted.

Probably removed

JimPa · 20-05-2018 10:56PM

kingofclay wrote: »

Is a search ongoing? I'm surprised I haven't heard a helicopter since 9pm. Where do you even begin to look?

I think the only looking tonight will be through his personal belongings, phone/computer history and interviewing friends and family. Unless something fairly concrete comes up.

Assetbacked · 20-05-2018 10:57PM

A Mark Hennessy has been named as the man who was shot dead by Gardai today. It appears he was the suspect in the disappearance of this woman, given the way the news stories have been drafted, linking the two events. No sign of the girl though yet unfortunately

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/timeline-events-man-shot-dead-12569468

ted1 · 20-05-2018 10:57PM

CZ 453 wrote: »

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

That's not an easy call to make. I can imagine the relief.

Absolutely, heart was pounding. Really was one of the hardest calls I’ve ever made.

Tippex · 20-05-2018 10:58PM

ted1 wrote: »

Absolutely, heart was pounding. Really was one of the hardest calls I’ve ever made.

I cannot imagine making that call.

Assetbacked · 20-05-2018 10:58PM

ted1 wrote: »

Absolutely, heart was pounding. Really was one of the hardest calls I’ve ever made.

Oh wow, can’t even imagine how terrifying it would be to be him. The fear of being targeted by vigilantes would be so tough and to make it worse, his poor family!

prinzeugen · 20-05-2018 11:00PM

kingofclay wrote: »

Is a search ongoing? I'm surprised I haven't heard a helicopter since 9pm. Where do you even begin to look? Realistically, how was she not in the car?

There is no point is using a helicopter after dark unless they think she is still alive.

Suckit · 20-05-2018 11:04PM

At a guess, they are probably downloading (Probably already downloaded) the information from the sat nav system in the car, and tracking it back if possible. No need for a helicopter now. I think that was only when they were looking for the car.

Yillan · 20-05-2018 11:04PM

prinzeugen wrote: »

There is no point is using a helicopter after dark unless they think she is still alive.

I don't follow

fullstop · 20-05-2018 11:07PM

Yillan wrote: »

I don't follow

It can only pick up body heat with thermal imaging. Dead = no body heat.

Mzo1978 · 20-05-2018 11:07PM

It's just so horrific the poor girl could be anywhere

An Ri rua · 20-05-2018 11:08PM

Conservatory wrote:

Also if a bullet hits an arm itâ€™s not likely to stop and could go anywhere really.

Yes, this is exactly why they don't go for their fingers; like torturers do with pliers....

Sigh.

homerjay2005 · 20-05-2018 11:08PM

Redo91 wrote: »

So much for no speculation...

well, i would call it a very realistic possibility as opposed to speculation.

prinzeugen · 20-05-2018 11:10PM

Yillan wrote: »

I don't follow

The thermal imaging cameras they would use at night can only pick up a heat source if the person is alive.

Using spotlights is time consuming and pointless unless you know where to start looking.

jk23 · 20-05-2018 11:14PM

What the hell is going on this week? Are these sort of things happening every week or are we just not being told about them? ðŸ˜®

Amalgam · 20-05-2018 11:15PM

The AGS might 'know' already, if his phone has photos/video..

kingofclay · 20-05-2018 11:16PM

jk23 wrote: »

What the hell is going on this week? Are these sort of things happening every week or are we just not being told about them? ��

Violence is actually going down, but our fear of it is going up :rolleyes:

This absolute bolloxology is always thrown out just because we don't have world wars anymore.

These two incidents are so unusual for Ireland but I can't help but think this might be a trend we see more of. Still though, the chances of you or someone you know being caught up in such an event is very very very low.

BENDYBINN · 20-05-2018 11:18PM

The poor girl could be tied up somewhere......The army should be called in to help with the search at first light. Time is of the essence here.

Conservatory · 20-05-2018 11:23PM

BENDYBINN wrote: »

The poor girl could be tied up somewhere......The army should be called in to help with the search at first light. Time is of the essence here.

I’m sure there is a fella who actually knows the facts of the situation deciding whether the army will be called in or not. We haven’t been given them yet which could be for a number of reasons.

Strazdas · 20-05-2018 11:25PM

BENDYBINN wrote: »

The poor girl could be tied up somewhere......The army should be called in to help with the search at first light. Time is of the essence here.

I'm sure they are doing everything they can right now. It will be bright by 5.15am.....there's no suggestion the authorities are not making desperate efforts to locate her.

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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