Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

d'Oracle · 20-05-2018 11:38PM

kingofclay wrote: »

I can't for the life of me fathom what had him around Cherrywood. Why stay in the vicinity of South Dublin and in an area that isn't exactly hidden. Cars would have been going there since it's the last stop on the LUAS.
Is there a possibility he was waiting for a potential vulnerable victim?

It's very quiet around there at the weekends.
Kind of in the middle of nowhere.
People don't really park in there too much for the LUAS, They tend to go to the park and rides.

Redo91 · 20-05-2018 11:39PM

JimPa wrote: »

It wasn't clinical. Poorly planned or unplanned. In broad daylight in the family car. An eyewitness to the abduction and a possible witness to a distressed woman in a moving vehicle.

The abduction was 9 minutes from his home. He was found and shot 12 minutes from his home. In an open car park. Armed with just a knife.

I'd be very surprised if he was a serial abductor.

First time and a personal reason for it.

He knew her and her him.

Motive love or pride.

So much for no speculation...

thebull85 · 20-05-2018 11:39PM

allthedoyles wrote: »

If they knew each other , she was hardly bundled into his car ?

But they could have had history and were not on good terms, its all speculation but JimPas post sounds to me like it could be close to the truth.

Conservatory · 20-05-2018 11:39PM

I’d say it’s likely he went out the night before like the wife said and went on a bender and sobered up getting shot by a Garda.
None of us have any idea but suggesting the girl was having an affair with a married man is a bit distasteful I think.

Damien360 · 20-05-2018 11:40PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Conservatory wrote: »

Maybe he had keys to a space in the industrial estate

I don't think it's that sort of industrial estate. The tennants there are super high tech like Dell, Genomics Medicine Ireland, Evros.

There is an underground car park under the building pictured by RTE. I use it to visit customers. Construction on going in same area.

amadangomor · 20-05-2018 11:41PM

Conservatory wrote: »

I’d say it’s likely he went out the night before like the wife said and went on a bender and sobered up getting shot by a Garda.
None of us have any idea but suggesting the girl was having an affair with a married man is a bit distasteful I think.

Eh?

ted1 · 20-05-2018 11:41PM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The mirror have named him.

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

uck51js9zml2yt · 20-05-2018 11:43PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

is that the one that the gardai eventually killed a mentally unstable man who harbored a long term grudge against the gardai for trying to take his gun away from him armed with a shot gun after he fired a large number of shots at them, having wounded him in the legs and arms before resorting to a fatal shot.

the one where they were criticized international for not shooting to kill much earlier

you haven't a clue mate and you shouldn't bother expressing an opinion about something you know nothing about

As this thread shows, everyone can have an opinion:)

spurious · 20-05-2018 11:44PM

Has there been a time and location given for when the 'woman in a distressed state' was seen in the car?

kingofclay · 20-05-2018 11:45PM

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

That's so messed up. Imagine having to take them calls or put up a Facebook or Instagram status saying you're alive.

By sounds of it, lingering around Cherrywood indicates that he might have been having an 'Oh fuuuck, what have I done' crisis. We need to get a time and location on where there was sightings of Jastine in distress. I fear the worst but pray she is alive. Being abducted is one of my great fears, in fact I only dreamed I was abducted cycling en route to Enniskerry last week.

CZ 453 · 20-05-2018 11:45PM

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

That's not an easy call to make. I can imagine the relief.

Suckit · 20-05-2018 11:47PM

I'm not on twitter but often use it to follow stories up to date etc.
But there are some nuts accounts to put it politely.

"Irelands Underworld" @Dublingangland... wtf?

They name him after the Mirror printed his name, and they tweet it followed by R.I.P.

Naturally someone calls them out on that and says "R.I.P? He kidnapped a woman!"

To which they reply "He’s was still a human being.If you have any information on him kidnapping someone can let us know.Thanks"

Ehmm... yes. If anyone has any information on him kidnapping, @Dublingangland will be the first point of contact..

AnneFrank · 20-05-2018 11:48PM

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

What if she was lying !

Tippex · 20-05-2018 11:49PM

Conservatory wrote: »

I’d say it’s likely he went out the night before like the wife said and went on a bender and sobered up getting shot by a Garda.
None of us have any idea but suggesting the girl was having an affair with a married man is a bit distasteful I think.

I have not seen any other post other than this suggesting what you have posted.

thebull85 · 20-05-2018 11:49PM

Suckit wrote: »

I'm not on twitter but often use it to follow stories up to date etc.
But there are some nuts accounts to put it politely.

"Irelands Underworld" @Dublingangland... wtf?

They name him after the Mirror pronted his name, and they tweet it followed by R.I.P.

Naturally someone calls them out on that and says "R.I.P? He kidnapped a woman!"

To which they reply "He’s was still a human being.If you have any information on him kidnapping someone can let us know.Thanks"

Ehmm... yes. If anyone has any information on him kidnapping, @Dublingangland will be the first point of contact..

I think most of those accounts are run by the one fruitcake, she was named on here before.
She was writing letters to Graham Dwyer in prison.

Suckit · 20-05-2018 11:50PM

spurious wrote: »

Has there been a time and location given for when the 'woman in a distressed state' was seen in the car?

Not that I have seen, here is the "timeline" of events. It is pretty poor, i am guessing that somebody will clean it up

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/timeline-events-man-shot-dead-12569468

kingofclay · 20-05-2018 11:52PM

Is a search ongoing? I'm surprised I haven't heard a helicopter since 9pm. Where do you even begin to look? Realistically, how was she not in the car?

Conservatory · 20-05-2018 11:52PM

Tippex wrote: »

I have not seen any other post other than this suggesting what you have posted.

Probably removed

JimPa · 20-05-2018 11:56PM

kingofclay wrote: »

Is a search ongoing? I'm surprised I haven't heard a helicopter since 9pm. Where do you even begin to look?

I think the only looking tonight will be through his personal belongings, phone/computer history and interviewing friends and family. Unless something fairly concrete comes up.

Assetbacked · 20-05-2018 11:57PM

A Mark Hennessy has been named as the man who was shot dead by Gardai today. It appears he was the suspect in the disappearance of this woman, given the way the news stories have been drafted, linking the two events. No sign of the girl though yet unfortunately

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/timeline-events-man-shot-dead-12569468

ted1 · 20-05-2018 11:57PM

CZ 453 wrote: »

ted1 wrote: »

Just had an oh fuc.k moment.

Friends husband is the same age , 2 kids, same name and lives in the same area.

Had to call her to see if it was him. It wasn't , but his phone is working overtime as a result of the the name being released

That's not an easy call to make. I can imagine the relief.

Absolutely, heart was pounding. Really was one of the hardest calls I’ve ever made.

Tippex · 20-05-2018 11:58PM

ted1 wrote: »

Absolutely, heart was pounding. Really was one of the hardest calls I’ve ever made.

I cannot imagine making that call.

Assetbacked · 20-05-2018 11:58PM

ted1 wrote: »

Absolutely, heart was pounding. Really was one of the hardest calls I’ve ever made.

Oh wow, can’t even imagine how terrifying it would be to be him. The fear of being targeted by vigilantes would be so tough and to make it worse, his poor family!

prinzeugen · 21-05-2018 12:00AM

kingofclay wrote: »

Is a search ongoing? I'm surprised I haven't heard a helicopter since 9pm. Where do you even begin to look? Realistically, how was she not in the car?

There is no point is using a helicopter after dark unless they think she is still alive.

Suckit · 21-05-2018 12:04AM

At a guess, they are probably downloading (Probably already downloaded) the information from the sat nav system in the car, and tracking it back if possible. No need for a helicopter now. I think that was only when they were looking for the car.