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Ulster Team Talk Thread III: Les Miserables SEE MOD WARNING POST #1924 + #2755

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  • #5162
    jm08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,338 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    He had absolutely no head coaching experience back when he was linked to Munster.

    I think he'd do well up here, but he's not been linked to Ulster so no idea why he's being discussed.

    He was head coach of Toulon (probably a steep learning curve for him) and also Counties Manukau for 3 years.

    Plenty of coaches don't have head coaching experience before arriving at an Irish Province - i.e., Leo Cullen and Johann van Graan.


  • #5163
    jacothelad
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Think they might have run out of steam on that one!

    ..which I consider a sad waste of a talented guy. He is probably well past his sell by date but in his day he was a good coach.


  • #5164
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    He was the head coach at Toulon, when they had just been promoted and had a basket case of a squad. He then reverted to being a player under Philippe Saint-Andre.

    Ah, was he the top man that year? Forgot that. Suppose anything is possible at Toulon.


  • #5165
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    jm08 wrote: »
    Ulster could do well in the secondary competition which would be a great confidence builder for them.

    Lol. Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse.


  • #5166
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    https://twitter.com/pauleddison/status/990886741367238656


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  • #5167
    jacothelad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,005 ✭✭✭jacothelad


    jacothelad wrote: »
    It isn't just Ulster fans speculating and I doubt if any actual Ulster fans hold out any real expectation of a 'good' appointment given the recent history of duds. As for ex-players, Jeremy Davidson is leaving Bordeaux. I have no idea if he is any good or not but he is at the end of the first year of a 3 year deal yet is being ousted for Poux it seems. Not a great sign. So long as we don't get Willie Anderson, Bradley or some failed waster from Oz who is a mate of Nuciforatu.:D

    Just saw this on Twatter.
    " Paul Eddison‏ @pauleddison







    On the subject of Brive, they have made Jeremy Davidson their main priority as their next coach. Bordeaux are keen to keep hold of him but would not be a surprise if he did end up in Correze."


    Maybe I got the wrong info on Buzz Lightyear.


  • #5168
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,405 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    jacothelad wrote: »
    Just saw this on Twatter.
    " Paul Eddison‏ @pauleddison
    He has lots of interesting things to say. Was there something in particular you wanted to draw our attention to? :P


  • #5169
    Yeah_Right
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    jm08 wrote: »
    Pat Lam was sacked by the Blues, so I wouldn't blame Umaga for their problems.

    Unfortunately coaching isn't the problem at the Blues. Nucifora, Lam, Kirwan and Umaga have all failed to turn them around. Even the great Joe Schmidt didn't make a difference (as an assistant). Umaga was a name I thought about for Ulster but I think he has another year left and I haven't heard any rumours of him being sacked.

    Ulster should break the bank and go after Wayne Smith.


  • #5170
    $ausage$
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    Dan McFarland?


  • #5171
    Burkie1203
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    jm08 wrote: »
    9 years coaching experience between Toulon, Counties Manukau and NZ U20s). He got Blues job in 2016.

    When was Foley appointed head coach? 2014 I think. So half of what you posted is irrelevant. He isn't a big name coach now. Wasn't back then.

    If he was so outstanding why did Munster opt for Foley?


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  • #5172
    awec
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    $ausage$ wrote: »
    Dan McFarland?

    Dunno why there’d be a delay announcing him. Not as if Scotland have anything coming up in the next few weeks.

    I take this delay as a sign that the new guy is currently in a sensitive position in his current job. But that could be wrong.


  • #5173
    FrannoFan
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    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    EoS hasnt been mentionned. Bizarrely.

    Busy getting the chop from old belvedere!


  • #5174
    $ausage$
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭$ausage$


    awec wrote: »
    $ausage$ wrote: »
    Dan McFarland?

    Dunno why there’d be a delay announcing him. Not as if Scotland have anything coming up in the next few weeks.

    I take this delay as a sign that the new guy is currently in a sensitive position in his current job. But that could be wrong.
    Maybe the DoR is the sensitive one and he is the Assistant?


  • #5175
    awec
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    $ausage$ wrote: »
    Maybe the DoR is the sensitive one and he is the Assistant?

    Assistant at Scotland to assistant at Ulster seems a backward step. Doubt that’s the case.


  • #5176
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    awec wrote: »
    Assistant at Scotland to assistant at Ulster seems a backward step. Doubt that’s the case.

    Or Head Coach under a DoR


  • #5177
    [Deleted User]
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Or Head Coach under a DoR

    Ah yes, the auld semantic promotion.


  • #5178
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,405 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ah yes, the auld semantic promotion.
    Not really. At international level you don't have a DoR, it's just a head coach. Assistant coach would be the same as Girvan Dempsey for Leinster. As a head coach in a club or nation, all the other coaches report to you.


  • #5179
    Wegians89
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    Scotland announced McFarland is leaving in mid January to take up head coaching role. Not leaving until January as there’s a 9 month notice clause. He’s a brilliant person and hope he gets on brilliantly up there


  • #5180
    Utah_Saint
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    If its McFarland and he does have a 9month notice period this is not ideal.  If next season goes badly fans will be told to wait until McF has his first full season under his belt like Kiss.  I can imagine the melt downs already.   Maybe Ulster are hoping this will boost Season Ticket sales?  They extended the window to buy season tickets by a month.


  • #5181
    awec
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    If we have signed another coach who misses half a season we are fcuking clowns. This better not be our guy.


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  • #5182
    sydthebeat
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    it would be completely laughable to be honest.


  • #5183
    irishbucsfan
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    awec wrote: »
    If we have signed another coach who misses half a season we are fcuking clowns. This better not be our guy.

    I mean, if he is about to be announced that he's leaving Scotland then...

    Maybe Ulster can get him out of that contract early though, maybe that's why they said it needed to wait a few weeks. Fingers crossed.


  • #5184
    Buer
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    awec wrote: »
    If we have signed another coach who misses half a season we are fcuking clowns. This better not be our guy.

    God, I hope it is. Purely for the meltdown entertainment and to see how Cunningham explains his way out of it.


  • #5185
    thomond2006
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    #BRYNOUT


  • #5186
    awec
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    Buer wrote: »
    God, I hope it is. Purely for the meltdown entertainment and to see how Cunningham explains his way out of it.
    I hope it's Lancaster, you fecking mexican.


  • #5187
    Buer
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    awec wrote: »
    I hope it's Lancaster, you fecking mexican.

    I hope he's a double agent and takes you down from the inside.

    I'm not sure how that would differ from anything we've seen for the last few years though so it'll be hard to tell.


  • #5188
    awec
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    Buer wrote: »
    I hope he's a double agent and takes you down from the inside.

    I'm not sure how that would differ from anything we've seen for the last few years though so it'll be hard to tell.
    We're going down anyway. Ulster Rugby is dead, the pride is gone. IRFU are getting their way and turning us into a mini mexico.

    Time to build that bloody wall.


  • #5189
    Buer
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    awec wrote: »
    Time to build that bloody wall.

    You might as well do something to develop some local employment up there anyway.


  • #5190
    prawnsambo
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I mean, if he is about to be announced that he's leaving Scotland then...

    Maybe Ulster can get him out of that contract early though, maybe that's why they said it needed to wait a few weeks. Fingers crossed.
    You could well be right. I'm sure that waiting clause in his contract is there in case he goes to another national coaching team. To a club, it shouldn't be the same level of sensitivity. Though they'd probably have to insert a "Don't talk to Joe" clause instead. ;)


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  • #5191
    prawnsambo
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    awec wrote: »
    We're going down anyway. Ulster Rugby is dead, the pride is gone. IRFU are getting their way and turning us into a mini mexico.

    Time to build that bloody wall.
    A kind of Honduras? I think that happened a long time ago. :P


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