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Belfast rape trial - all 4 found not guilty Mod Note post one

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  • #2552
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    the_syco wrote: »
    Jaysus fcuking christ.

    Fcuk me - if I have to see that post one more time on this thread.

    We get it

    It's stupid.


  • #2553
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    I have to say, that in my experience here in Limerick anyway, the men I spoke to yesterday about this were all as gob smacked over this verdict as each other...

    Were they really surprised by the not guilty verdict?


  • #2554
    Greysquirel09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭Greysquirel09


    RuMan wrote: »
    Most people i spoke to were amazed it even got to court. Cant see how anyone following the proceedings could have been shocked by the verdict

    Have to agree. The moment I heard the witness say she walked in and saw a threesome they were walking free.


  • #2555
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Were they really surprised by the not guilty verdict?

    Ya...as was I...which was a bit foolish on our part really...I mean, what chance did she have?


  • #2556
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Appledreams15 wrote: »
    I have been talking to men abroad on whatsapl, ive travelled a fair bit, and they were all incredibly supportive
    So you and they think an accusation of rape by a woman equals immediate jail sentence without a trial?


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  • #2557
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,082 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ya...as was I...which was a bit foolish on our part really...I mean, what chance did she have?


    Was that before or after she went back in for her phone?


  • #2558
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ya...as was I...which was a bit foolish on our part really...I mean, what chance did she have?

    Thanks for the reply. Most people I met over the weeks were expecting a not guilty verdict from what they heard in the news.


  • #2559
    razorblunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ya...as was I...which was a bit foolish on our part really...I mean, what chance did she have?

    A decent chance if the evidence stacked up. In fact more than decent.


  • #2560
    RuMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭RuMan


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ya...as was I...which was a bit foolish on our part really...I mean, what chance did she have?

    Clearly you werent following the case


  • #2561
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,520 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Ya...as was I...which was a bit foolish on our part really...I mean, what chance did she have?

    She had the chance to prove her accusations in a court in front of a jury...which she couldn't do.

    Do you believe everyone simply accused of a crime is guilty?


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  • #2562
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    GreeBo wrote: »
    She had the chance to prove her accusations in a court in front of a jury...which she couldn't do.

    Do you believe everyone simply accused of a crime is guilty?

    That old chestnut...

    I don't actually...I followed another rape case in the media recently was fully convinced that the men were innocent....


  • #2563
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,278 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It seems the radfems and the beta male cucks would prefer the men were sent to prison despite the fact that there was no proof they did anything wrong.

    I'm sick of seeing this #ibelieveher crap in every comment on the subject as well.


  • #2564
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,520 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    That old chestnut...

    I don't actually...I followed another rape case in the media recently was fully convinced that the men were innocent....

    So you were convinced based on the available evidence that these men were guilty?


  • #2565
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Thats incorrect.
    Only a man can commit rape as it requires penetration with a penis.

    Anything else is sexual assault.

    Forced penetration has been reported in many prisions etc across the US, if that's sexual assault then so be it however my point still stands, what that poster said was incorrect about men not being raped , it happens. (Anal penetration)


  • #2566
    RuMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭RuMan


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    That old chestnut...

    I don't actually...I followed another rape case in the media recently was fully convinced that the men were innocent....

    There was no evidence in this case, she was lucky it even got to court. Would have better all around if it hadnt.


  • #2567
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    GreeBo wrote: »
    So you were convinced based on the available evidence that these men were guilty?

    I'm not on any stand pal...I'm entitled to my opinion...


  • #2568
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,927 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    It's clear there are plenty of people posting in this thread who are making statements when they didn't actually follow the case.

    They are just jumping on the latest bandwagon.


  • #2569
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,520 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Forced penetration has been reported in many prisions etc across the US, if that's sexual assault then so be it however my point still stands, what that poster said was incorrect about men not being raped , it happens. (Anal penetration)

    I'm not saying only women can be raped, I'm saying that only men can commit rape.


  • #2570
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    GreeBo wrote: »
    I'm not saying only women can be raped, I'm saying that only men can commit rape.

    Ah right, thanks for the correction for the term :)


  • #2571
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    NIMAN wrote: »
    It's clear there are plenty of people posting in this thread who are making statements when they didn't actually follow the case.

    They are just jumping on the latest bandwagon.

    Well, I can only speak for myself, but I followed this case right from the start...

    I couldn't give a fukk about bandwagons....


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  • #2572
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,029 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    RuMan wrote: »
    Most people i spoke to were amazed it even got to court. Cant see how anyone following the proceedings could have been shocked by the verdict

    Anyone following the case should not have been surprised in the slightest. It was fairly obvious weeks ago that the verdict was heading the way it did.

    Too many inconsistencies and not enough evidence.


  • #2573
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,520 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    I'm not on any stand pal...I'm entitled to my opinion...

    I'm not saying that you aren't, just wondering why you were surprised at the not guilty verdict.

    Assuming you understand the legal process, to be surprised you must have personally been convinced beyond all reasonable doubt that they were guilty.

    Neither I (nor the judge or jury for that matter) found any evidence to satisfy that requirement.


  • #2574
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Just out of curiosity, I'm assuming all the ibelieveher hash taggers are happy that they implicitly dont believe the female witness? Maybe ibelieveherbutnother would be more accurate


  • #2575
    TOMs WIFE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭TOMs WIFE


    the_syco wrote: »
    pjohnson wrote: »
    Not anti man in the slightest
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    Jaysus fcuking christ.

    Unbelieveable.  I see that she has deleted the tweet.  Someone obviously made her see sense (what little she clearly has).


  • #2576
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,811 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    TOMs WIFE wrote: »
    Unbelieveable.  I see that she has deleted the tweet.  Someone obviously made her see sense (what little she clearly has).

    Normally people just calls everbody who calls them out on such Tweets trolls.


  • #2577
    RuMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭RuMan


    Bambi wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, I'm assuming all the ibelieveher hash taggers are happy that they implicitly dont believe the female witness? Maybe ibelieveherbutnother would be more accurate

    Dont get the sense they have any clue about evidence its all about virtue signalling who cares if they destroy the lifes of innocent men


  • #2578
    Stonedpilot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Stonedpilot


    GreeBo wrote: »
    I'm not saying only women can be raped, I'm saying that only men can commit rape.

    What utter utter utter crap. So if a grown woman forces herself on a young boy Pins him down, mounts him threatens him and has sex against his will that isnt rape?.
    Of course it is.

    Its your kinda crap excuses female paedophiles.
    Disgusting post frankly.


  • #2579
    tritium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    GreeBo wrote: »
    I'm not saying only women can be raped, I'm saying that only men can commit rape.

    Only men can commit can commit the legally defined crime of rape.

    Either gender can force the other (or their own) to have sex with them against their will. The CDC has a rather shameful episode of reclassifying and hiding that exact thing in the appendices a while back.

    Not really cool to use a flaw in the legal versus common understanding of the term to score points on something like this tbh


  • #2580
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Stonedpilot wrote: »
    What utter utter utter crap. So if a grown woman forces herself on a young boy Pins him down, mounts him threatens him and has sex against his will that isnt rape?.
    Of course it is.

    Its your kinda crap excuses female paedophiles.
    Disgusting post frankly.

    Well I mean after looking it up, that's what the law says. There is nothing in the law about women raping men so legally it can't be held up, which I believe is something that needs to be changed.


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  • #2581
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    beta male cucks

    Way to destroy the credibility of your argument, an argument which is otherwise right on the money.


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