So my car needs a new engine..

punisher5112 · 22-03-2018 07:43PM

Kill it with fire....

22-03-2018 07:54PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

And they’re covering it?

Ah yeah. Of course. Sure it's only 6 months old.

22-03-2018 07:57PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Is this the second time the big end has gone? If so there’s obviously an oil starvation or alignment issue they missed the first time.

Have had to top up the oil twice, but i do a fair bit of mileage so didnt think it too much out of the ordinary. It was never empty on oil though. Ran low, but never empty, and was always topped up swiftly.

punisher5112 wrote: »

Kill it with fire....

Ah not at all, grand piece of kit

punisher5112 · 22-03-2018 07:58PM

If ya ever change your mind don't forget pics and video... ;-)

22-03-2018 08:28PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

If ya ever change your mind don't forget pics and video... ;-)

Would be handy for the insurance company alright.. ::P

Gravelly · 22-03-2018 08:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Have had to top up the oil twice, but i do a fair bit of mileage so didnt think it too much out of the ordinary. It was never empty on oil though. Ran low, but never empty, and was always topped up swiftly.

By oil starvation, I meant to the bearings - due to blocked oilways, incorrectly fitted shells, oil pump issue etc. all of which, I would hope, they checked.

bear1 · 22-03-2018 08:29PM

Sweet Jesus.

bear1 · 22-03-2018 08:30PM

bear1 wrote: »

Anytime this thread pops up on my feed I just think "Christ don't say there's another issue with it"

I'll just quote myself :P

George Dalton · 22-03-2018 09:30PM

bear1 wrote: »

I'll just quote myself :P

While we are at it :pac:

George Dalton wrote: »

That car is not worth fixing IMO.

bear1 · 23-03-2018 12:24AM

George Dalton wrote: »

While we are at it :pac:

Poor kkv

punisher5112 · 23-03-2018 12:27AM

Name stand for killed kar violently

23-03-2018 12:38AM

I still maintain the C5 is the nicest car I've ever been in.

In terms of the big end going, are there any driving techniques that can cause this or speed up the process? It's happened me twice now and I'm starting to doubt myself a bit :pac:

Even though I know it's obviously something wrong with the engine or they overlooked something or such. Still makes me think..

punisher5112 · 23-03-2018 12:41AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I still maintain the C5 is the nicest car I've ever been in.

In terms of the big end going, are there any driving techniques that can cause this or speed up the process? It's happened me twice now and I'm starting to doubt myself a bit :pac:

Even though I know it's obviously something wrong with the engine or they overlooked something or such. Still makes me think..

I always let my car idle for two minutes and a little longer when really cold.

It's all to do with letting oil circulate especially to the turbo.

176k miles original clutch,turbo and pretty much everything else.

23-03-2018 12:46AM

After the mess they made of it first time it's unfortunately less than surprising there's more problems.

byte · 23-03-2018 12:47AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

I always let my car idle for two minutes and a little longer when really cold.

It's all to do with letting oil circulate especially to the turbo.

176k miles original clutch,turbo and pretty much everything else.

I was under the impression this was bad practice. And that driving sooner would warm the oil sooner to do its job?

punisher5112 · 23-03-2018 12:50AM

byte wrote: »

I was under the impression this was bad practice. And that driving sooner would warm the oil sooner to do its job?

Don't believe that.

Let oil circulate before loading engine.

I don't mean sit there for hours just the two minutes.

23-03-2018 12:54AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Don't believe that.

Let oil circulate before loading engine.

I don't mean sit there for hours just the two minutes.

10 seconds would do..... like there's an oil pump and an engine isn't the alleys of Venice is it

iamtony · 23-03-2018 12:54AM

byte wrote: »

I was under the impression this was bad practice. And that driving sooner would warm the oil sooner to do its job?

It is bad practise. Drive car as normal from the moment you start it. Most Diesels don't heat up when idling and the wear is mainly done while the oil is cold. No benefit to letting it idle.

iamtony · 23-03-2018 12:57AM

Augeo wrote: »

10 seconds would do..... like there's an oil pump and an engine isn't the alleys of Venice is it

Ever start an engine with the top cover off? Doesn't even take a second to cover you in splashes. All here say. Just drive it on.

unkel · 23-03-2018 12:57AM

I've a lot of respect and sympathy for people like the OP who keep cars going, but my immediate thought right at reading the first post of this thread was to just dump it. George Dalton expressed it a bit kinder soon after I started reading into this thread. I've quite a bit of experience owning and driving bangernomics cars and the trick is to find one that you like, that's extremely cheap, and that is likely to keep going for a while

First sign of any problem costing more than a few hundred euro though => scrap the car and find another banger

If you don't stick with this rule, you will have a lot of trouble and / or it will cost you a lot of money. The latter hasn't worked out too badly for the OP, but I say the garage wish they never met him

punisher5112 · 23-03-2018 01:00AM

Augeo wrote: »

10 seconds would do..... like there's an oil pump and an engine isn't the alleys of Venice is it

Well I've always done it with anything turbo anything else just drove it like I stole it.

The car have takes two minutes for the revs to balance and drives much better if let set.

unkel · 23-03-2018 01:00AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

I always let my car idle for two minutes and a little longer when really cold.

It's all to do with letting oil circulate especially to the turbo.

That's terrible practice. You should start the engine and immediately drive off. Ideally you would use the most power with the least revs to heat your engine in the most gentle way. Like drive on a national road or motorway in the highest gear

I suppose it's a credit to modern engineering that even if you resort to unsympathetic treatment of your engine, you'd still get reliability and longevity out of it.

iamtony · 23-03-2018 01:01AM

unkel wrote: »

I've a lot of respect and sympathy for people like the OP who keep cars going, but my immediate thought right at reading the first post of this thread was to just dump it. George Dalton expressed it a bit kinder soon after I started reading into this thread. I've quite a bit of experience owning and driving bangernomics cars and the trick is to find one that you like, that's extremely cheap, and that is likely to keep going for a while

First sign of any problem costing more than a few hundred euro though => scrap the car and find another banger

If you don't stick with this rule, you will have a lot of trouble and / or it will cost you a lot of money. The latter hasn't worked out too badly for the OP, but I say the garage wish they never met him

if your not handy with cars and able to repair yourself the most economical route has to be new or a year old. Cars cost money end of. Your paying either way with less heart ache when buying newer.

wonski · 23-03-2018 01:04AM

Exactly.

Just crossed the 300k km barrier and went through the nct. Just the 2 front wishbones bushings that are to be replaced tomorrow and the retest on Sunday.

It's not doing that great because I am good at cars. Not at all.

If it failed at anything over 500 euro I would just scrap it. Total cost will be 170 euro and as long as the car keeps going I will keep it. If the engine dies, the car is dead for me.

iamtony · 23-03-2018 01:04AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well I've always done it with anything turbo anything else just drove it like I stole it.

The car have takes two minutes for the revs to balance and drives much better if let set.

The turbo gets oil instantly it can't run dry and the longer that oil is cold the worse it is for it.

unkel · 23-03-2018 01:08AM

iamtony wrote: »

if your not handy with cars and able to repair yourself the most economical route has to be new or a year old.

I can't agree with you there, iamtony. I'm not that handy and can't repair cars myself (apart from basic stuff like changing oil & filter, etc.) and I've run extremely cheap bangernomics cars during the recession that proved to be pleasant and reliable. One example is a 10 year old great condition Saab 9-5 I bought for €1350 in near perfect condition, kept for 2 years and sold on for €1250 with a few minor issues like alarm no longer working as it needed a new alarm battery. Total maintenance on that car over 2 years was around €100

iamtony · 23-03-2018 01:10AM

unkel wrote: »

I can't agree with you there, iamtony. I'm not that handy and can't repair cars myself (apart from basic stuff like changing oil & filter, etc.) and I've run extremely cheap bangernomics cars during the recession that proved to be pleasant and reliable. One example is a 10 year old great condition Saab 9-5 I bought for €1350, kept for 2 years and sold on for €1250 with a few minor ssues. Total maintenance on that car over 2 years was around €100

I Can't argue with that! You win!

Esel · 23-03-2018 04:48AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In terms of the big end going, are there any driving techniques that can cause this or speed up the process? It's happened me twice now and I'm starting to doubt myself a bit :pac:

Even though I know it's obviously something wrong with the engine or they overlooked something or such. Still makes me think..

Lugging the engine - opening the throttle in too high a gear. Google it, you might be doing it...

grogi · 23-03-2018 10:32AM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well I've always done it with anything turbo anything else just drove it like I stole it.

The car have takes two minutes for the revs to balance and drives much better if let set.

Just get a decent 0Wxx oil forget about that nonsense.

Letting it idle after driving to cool down the turbo is a different story and you should do that, especially after a bit of motorway/spirited driving.

zilog_jones · 23-03-2018 10:51AM

grogi wrote: »

Letting it idle after driving to cool down the turbo is a different story and you should do that, especially after a bit of motorway/spirited driving.

For a typical low-pressure turbodiesel family car, I don't think it matters really. People fit turbo timers to things like a Subaru WRX, not a 1.6 C5

So my car needs a new engine..

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