Saorview Connect

funnyname wrote: »

Thanks

Was hoping that when I update my TV later on this year to something with a dual TV tuner I'd could avoid having to get a Saorview connect box.

Any sign of Chromecast coming to the android version of rte player?

Chromecast will probably come with the updated rte player app.
However, you won't have rollback functionality of the saorview connect box.

Also there are plans to have the 'watch from start of programme' feature in the saorview connect box. This means if you miss the first 10 minutes of an rte programme as you came home late you can choose to watch the programme from the beginning (needs broadband).

When you say a dual tuner tv what do you mean?
2 terrestrial tuners or
2 tuners with one for satellite & one for saorview?

I posted this link earlier in the thread #1200
http://hongkong-haifei.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008833974143/pdtl/Tuner-modules/1154949055/DVB-T2-T-C-S2-S-Full-NIM-Tu....htm

Features:
DVB-T/T2/C/mode: 44-1002MHz
DVB-S/S2 mode: 950-2150MHz

I posted this link earlier in the thread #1200
http://hongkong-haifei.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008833974143/pdtl/Tuner-modules/1154949055/DVB-T2-T-C-S2-S-Full-NIM-Tu....htm

Also, searching this thread for "serit" lists a few posts on a tuner similar to the one linked above.

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I posted this link earlier in the thread #1200
http://hongkong-haifei.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008833974143/pdtl/Tuner-modules/1154949055/DVB-T2-T-C-S2-S-Full-NIM-Tu....htm

Yes I know they theoretically exist. I do not know one manufacturer that has implemented it though. I would be surprised if they were in this box.

I had posted about them myself when the EKT guy was posting here.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104918004&postcount=1151

What he posted in response to questions raised was.

keribillen wrote: »

Hello, yes other STBs we have sold include the tuners. The Saorview Connect box is not the first and therefore not taking any risk with them.
As I have said in other replies to others on this forum, the second connector is disabled at the outset. It is there for any future upgrades that might necessitate it. A single connector satisfies the customer's launch requirements but we've left the second connector on it (it is part of our baseline design) in case it is needed in future.

Regards,
Keri

The second tuner that is disabled is a sat tuner. I'd wager that they dont have the Serit tuners that nobody else has implemented.

Which leads me to believe that the record facility is nobbled not because of lack of testing, but that they realise that enabling it would prove that you wouldnt be able to viewMux 2 whilst recording from Mux 1.

"Launch" lol.

Now Sam if someone was to take the lid off their box and give me a picture of the NIMs we'd be closer to the truth.

Important to differentiate between tuners and inputs.

There are 3 inputs on the box - 2 for satellite inputs and 1 for terrestrial.

We have been told there are 2 tuners in the box, so not sure where the idea of a 3rd tuner is coming from.

We haven't been told why the 2nd satellite input has been disabled. Perhaps it is because saorview don't see the value in having more than just watch a single channel in the satellite section.

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Important to differentiate between tuners and inputs.

There are 3 inputs on the box - 2 for satellite inputs and 1 for terrestrial.

We have been told there are 2 tuners in the box, so not sure where the idea of a 3rd tuner is coming from.

We haven't been told why the 2nd satellite input has been disabled. Perhaps it is because saorview don't see the value in having more than just watch a single channel in the satellite section.

Because its a ongoing technical discussion that myself and Sam Russell have had since the box number was leaked. The manufacturer claimed that they were multiformat tuners. Nobody (and I mean all the big box manufacturers) have implemented this type tuner and they nearly all use Serit tuners.

The idea that there is a third tuner is from the box chassis that has three inputs.

Why its important besides a technical discussion is to realise the full potential of the box (even with its lack of proper software).

If its only got one single DVB-T tuner module and two DVB-S2 modules (one disabled) then even when recording is enabled you will not be able to watch RTE1 whilst recording RTE2 which is as useful as a chocolate teapot.

Would you care to solve a mystery or two and take a few overhead pics of the back of the box with the top off ??? Disconnect it first obviously.

Bob_Marley wrote: »

can the soarview box have other apps like netflix and youtube ? Also will it receive freeview uk channels where you can get the signal ?

Netflix havent got around to releasing a Netflix app for E2 boxes, the software for which is open. They certainly wont do it for a closed software!

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

@Stb

The box has no screws so I presume it is clicked into place somehow. Anyway I am not bothered enough to go doing that.

For me even if the tuners are multi format the box is dead in terms of it being used as a saorview/satellite box. It takes too long and too many button presses to switch between the two.

No 7 day epg or series link doesn't kill the satellite section but the above does.

No screws underneath ?

I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying about multiformat.

The term "Multiformat tuners" was used by the manufacturer. Some people believe that they are a Tuner module that Serit have in the wild, but that nobody is using. This tuner type allows each tuner (NIM) to have either DVB-T or DVB-S enabled by software. This would allow several mixes of recording facilities, if true.

The other and my interpretation of multiformat is that they just produce the boxes with normal single NIMs to the satisfaction of the client. ie 1 dvb-t and 2 dvb-s2 or whatever config the client wants.

I'd be very disappointed to have spent 200 yo yos on a box that wont allow full viewing of all muxes when recording. The single RF input might be a single or multiple DVB-T tuner (would only know by seeing tuner modules)

You are the only on this thread that seems to have one thats why I asked about photos, but I understand if you are not comfortable with taking the lid off whilst disconnected.

I wont even ask whether you have tried ftping into it then so.

donegal. wrote: »

can anyone recommend a cheap combi box ( maybe around €70) preferably with a combined epg?

The Edision OS Nino at €101.60 is great. There is a 7.5% discount for Boards members.

Sam Russell wrote: »

@STB

The EKT DXD7025 has the following hard
Tuners 2 * Multiformat (DVB-S2/T2/T/C2/C)
Video resolution 480i/p, 576/pi, 720p, 1080i, 1080p/30,
1080p/60

It looks identical to the Connect box and displays the same connectors. It has only two Multiformat tuners, as shown above.

That agrees with my understanding of the Connect box.

Sam

What do you think the * means ?

There are 3 tuner inputs.

Its already been established earlier in the thread that one has been disabled.

Connectors - from EKT spec

RF input 1 IEC, RF input 1 F-Type, RF input 2 F-Type


My contention is that "Multiformat" is the NIM types available, not the combined capabilities of each NIM.

The box has 2 Sat F Inputs and 1 RF Input as is clearly labelled on the box.

Could we assume that the 2nd satellite input has been disabled as no recording is currently available on the box.

When that comes along then the 2nd sat input could be enabled to allow you watch one sat and record another sat channel.

Sam Russell wrote: »

It normally means 'by' or 'times' or the multiplication sign.

The DVB-T connection is shared. The second tuner is disabled in software - all hardware required for recording is in the box.

I would contend that it means type depending on configuration requested by client. There are two types of NIM. One DVB-S/2/X or one Hybrid DVB-T2/C2.

I have no doubt that the "third" tuner is disabled through software.

However, it is quite clearly an F-connector. In Europe the f connector is used exclusively for cable OR satellite.

The recording facility that is disabled is not hardware but a software limitation.

I see your edit now. No tuners that I know of are currently deployed in any hardware that allow DVb-S2/T swapping on one NIM.

You know what would solve our second guessing. Pictures!

EKT also have a DXD7415 which has a

single Multiformat tuner, which can be set as either DVB-S2x, C or T2 within EKT’s own solidTV software

with 1 terrestrial and 1 satellite connector.

Don't want to derail the thread but put simply what would this box give me that I'm not getting on my recordable sat and terrestrial ariva252?