Severe Weather Snow / Ice Weds 28 FEB ( Onwards ) ** READ MOD NOTE POST#1**

It is snowing here again , big flakes , Portlaoise..

pad199207 wrote: »

Lackagh Co Kildare

people will be going sightseeing there in may !

Heroditas wrote: »

We got a text from my daughter's school last night asking for volunteers to help clear snow around the paths and entrances to the school, otherwise it'll have to remain closed on Monday.
Seeing that it's been closed since Tuesday evening, I have a feeling there will be no shortage of volunteers with their shovels later.

Will be the teachers be out shovelling too?
They're well rested.

wakka12 wrote: »

I think some parts of west Kerry mayo galway and Donegal didn't

And they made sure to let us know what an awful event it was too

Efforts to clear the routes in and out of Roundwood and Laragh being severely hampered by snow tourists. At best they're slowing down the work, but reports they're getting stuck. There's one lane just about passable, and people are parking in the passing spots to go to the Sugarloaf. Probably their "right" to come and the Government's fault...

Macy0161 wrote: »

Efforts to clear the routes in and out of Roundwood and Laragh being severely hampered by snow tourists. At best they're slowing down the work, but reports they're getting stuck. There's one lane just about passable, and people are parking in the passing spots to go to the Sugarloaf. Probably their "right" to come and the Government's fault...

That's annoying are you stuck down there?

Rodin wrote: »

Will be the teachers be out shovelling too?
They're well rested.

I’ll be shovelling here. Have to get to the main road before I can start the journey to the school. Anyway, your sly dig, if you’ll pardon the pun, wasn’t wasted. Consider this your response from the profession.

Oops69 wrote: »

just wait till the flooding in Galway and the midlands now, you ain't heard nothing yet .

You're expecting the floods to be bad or the complaining to be bad? I hope its the former or you're seriously full of sh1t.

Know what's great to see. The met eireann Twitter posts . The comments are mainly 'Great work guys you helped!' 'Deloghted you guys deserve a break now after that's etc etc, rather then the usual 'ah stop now' sort of posts. Happy to see that.

4ensic15 wrote: »

&20 is more than the number of military deployed overseas. It is about as many as were available to go to the border in the 1969 emergency. Most of those out during the snow were on training courses which were interrupted by the snow. The Naval Service is undermanned and can't be expected to bring ships home to deliver food in vehicles it doesn't have. The air corps is undermanned and can't be expected to deliver food in nvehicles it doesn't have. Military bases with guns and ammunition in them need to be guarded. The defence force has a limited number of vehicles. Some have to be kept available to deal with incidents like LIDL. Some troops haven't been able to go to their own homes for days and see that their own famiiies have food. The selfishness of some people is staggering. They expect troops to put themselves at risk hunderds of miles from home so that they can have fresh milk nin their local sho!

I've plenty of milk and food as i stocked up be some people didn't or were unable too.

But your right. Expecting defence forces to put themselves at risk is wrong.
Perhaps they all that they were signing up to run crèches.

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These are great. I bought them in 2010 for 25 sterling from amazon and they got their first run this year.

Very happy with how they worked and a lot cheaper now than when I bought them.

Rodin wrote: »

It's unreasonable to be asking for volunteers to help clear snow without involving those who are actually employed by the school.
Why should a staff member stay at home while a parent volunteer gets shovelling?

Most schools, if they were to obey health and safety guidelines, would remain closed. The pressure being brought to bear is by parents, some of whom have to go back to work, others who want to for leave reasons.
Threads normally go this way, after events. I imagine the government over-reacted with the red and Orange alerts also?

We're hardly out of the woods and already there is teacher bashing and, very hard to fathom, Defence Forces bashing. Right down to questioning the will of the individual personnel? Seriously distasteful posting.

Boards, keyboard warrior heaven.

_Dara_ wrote: »

What was so magical about 2010 was how bright the countryside was on moonlight nights. I was living with my parents at the time in the rural west of Ireland. We actually got very little snow but what did fall stayed frozen on the ground for weeks. It was amazing to see the usually dark nighttime countryside illuminated on moonlit nights, to be able to see faraway hills. Even when there was no moon, it was quite bright. Irish snow is so often accompanied by overcast conditions so this was very special.

I 101% agree with you, the sunshine is what made 2010 for me, never mind the snow. Every month bar July was sunnier than normal, January, February, April, October, November and December record breakingly so for parts. To me, it was the ideal year for sunshine with the majority of places having between 1600-1800 hours of annual sunshine compared to the average of 1200-1400 hours.

Those snow days with the sunshine like 27 and 28 November 2010 here were so beautiful and magnificent. I long for a repeat of those conditions any day.

nacho libre wrote: »

I wonder why the ecm was showing the pv reorganising earlier on then. I hope we get one more easterly blast- a long shot, i know. I miss the ice days and seeing everything white. Maybe if i had witnessed as much as some people here had, i might think differently:pac:, though. I really hope you're right about low solar activity meaning we will see severe cold outbreaks sooner rather than later in the future. Although i doubt we will see anything quite like the last few days ever again in Ireland.

There's several possible reasons nacho libre:

1. The ECM hasn't a clue what it's talking about. You've seen what some models have been like through this entire event - and historically too with previous years - in bringing back the Polar Vortex and our normal zonal pattern. The GFS is usually very evident of doing this in particular.
2. With intense blocking already in place, the Canadian Warming could be ruining the blocking and making the Polar Vortex regain itself. The problem with saying this is that a Canadian Warming has never occurred in February before back to 1950-51 when stratosphere records began as well as a Canadian Warming has not occurred since December 2000.
3. Just like with the major SSW, the model is struggling to pick up on where we will go. The Canadian Warming occurred on 18th/19th February so it's been the minimum duration now (around 10 days to 2 weeks) for impacts on the troposphere to take place. Therefore, this needs watching.

I can tell you with high confidence, extremely high at that, we will see cold Winters in the next few years or at least Winters with notably cold spells at some points. I've shown evidence on solar activity why I say this and why it's literally next to impossible to not get the cold spells. Every solar cycle around these parts have significant cold at some point. Maybe we won't see snow depths like what Emma brought for another 20-30 years though never rule anything out with our climate but significant cold and 2010 styled snow, a definite occurrence if my theories are correct.

I wouldn't rule out another easterly, though it is highly unlikely.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Care to predict what that could mean for us weather wise?

There's a few possible scenarios.

1. Polar Vortex regains itself as a result of the warming ruining the blocking like it did in previous cold spells such as that of February 2009. This in turn leading us to a mild, unsettled pattern. Whilst this is certainly possible for April, for March historically, it has zero chance - at least being mild that is. Even with the zero chance, I still say you can't rule anything out like maybe it'll be unique? We have had some very unique seasons the past few years.

2. With the Polar Jet so far south to us and blocking in place, a northerly or northeasterly looks to be favoured. This would be March 2013-esque cold, daytime temperatures generally between 4-7c, minimums around -2 to 2c in rather dull and wet conditions. I hate to say this (since March 2013 is my personal least favourite month) but to me this is the most likely scenario.

With the state of the zonal winds, I don't think we'll be turning to a westerly any time soon.

200motels wrote: »

I have to say here in Waterford City they kept us all informed through Map Alerter, also the main roads were kept open, unfortunately my car is still buried in snow and slush on a side street and still cannot move it.

Never heard of mapalerter before, just installed it. Thanks!