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Have you ever had an unwanted sexual experience? Mod warning in op - updated 6/3/18

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    What if what if what if.

    Ffs. Is it that hard to just let a poster post, sympathise and then move the fcuk on? Thread is in the sewer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    It demonstrates that "acting on instincts" is no excuse.
    But what is the exact circumstance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    What has his sexuality got to do with it?

    I thought you were being sarcastic in your reply and saying a girl grinding on a guy basically isn't ever a horrible situation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭georgina toadbum


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I thought you were being sarcastic in your reply and saying a girl grinding on a guy basically isn't ever a horrible situation

    I wasn't being sarcastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,438 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    anna080 wrote: »
    What if what if what if.

    Ffs. Is it that hard to just let a poster post, sympathise and then move the fcuk on? Thread is in the sewer.

    When people started saying its grand for a woman to do whatever she wishes to a man, grab his arsé, attack him, it went to shít.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,403 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I'm only speaking for myself, but I just wouldn't ever be able to see me being hit by a woman as a big deal.

    You would if you got a punch from her.

    wIn8h58.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,344 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    You quoted the following from me,
    banie01 wrote: »
    I know a number of people with facial scarring from similar instances of being glassed (Not for the same reasons of course) and 1 person in particular who has lost an eye and significant scarring due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    and then asked
    That's the important difference between the two circumstances there banie.
    There's no comparison between the two circumstances you're attempting to draw a comparison between btw.
    The way the post was phrased it appears you were questioning the comparison of the impact of being glassed on the circumstance leading to it?
    Apologies if I picked it up wrong, I'll address your comparison point below.
    Secondly, the comparison I was referring to that doesn't stand up is this one -
    Her physical attributes aren't georgina's fault, and it's certainly not an invitation to all and sundry to commit sexual assault just because she happens to be there, whether you might call it the wrong place at the wrong time. It doesn't matter whether they are or aren't an imposition, as it's just not comparable to the imposition of a false eye, bit of a weird comparison and wholly irrelevant IMO tbh.

    The comparison of Georgina's breasts to the potential injury was made by GT, my response was directly to her.
    Nobody said her attributes were her fault, and those attributes whatever they may be should certainly not make her or anyone a target for uninvited licentiousness
    My response to that comparison stands as it is.
    You're claiming what I did was worse and possibly life damaging.

    Do you think not think my life has been damaged? Do you not realise how my life could be affected by something like this?

    I did not ask for big boobs. I should not have to endure someone sticking their head in them


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭Koala Sunshine


    anna080 wrote: »
    What if what if what if.

    Ffs. Is it that hard to just let a poster post, sympathise and then move the fcuk on? Thread is in the sewer.

    Sympathise :pac:

    Nobody is obligated to sympathise.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭Koala Sunshine


    I wasn't being sarcastic.

    So is it ok in your opinion for someone to rub themself against another person's genitals?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    anna080 wrote: »
    What if what if what if.

    Ffs. Is it that hard to just let a poster post, sympathise and then move the fcuk on? Thread is in the sewer.

    Don't be foolish, Anna!

    Never take something at face value if you can engage in reductio ab absurdum....ad infinitum! It's just a shame the thread has descended into this when it could have been of genuine help to some posters.

    So tempted to use the rolleyes, and I hate the rolleyes!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭georgina toadbum


    So ia it ok in your opinion for someone to rub themself against another person's genitals?

    What the hell?

    No, of course, I don't. I said I hope no man ever finds himself in that situation.

    If a person doesn't want someone else to rub off their genitals regardless of gender or sexuality then they shouldn't have to endure it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭Koala Sunshine


    What the hell?

    No, of course, I don't. I said I hope no man ever finds himself in that situation.

    If a person doesn't want someone else to rub off their genitals regardless of gender or sexuality then they shouldn't have to endure it.

    In your last reply you said you are being sarcastic, misunderstanding then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭georgina toadbum


    In your last reply you said you are being sarcastic, misunderstanding then.

    I said I wasn't being sarcastic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭Koala Sunshine


    I said I wasn't being sarcastic.

    Ok my bad then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,036 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    We get it.

    Some think the lady over-reacted when the bloke stuck his head in her cleavage. Some don't.

    It has been debated as much as most can stand.

    This thread is for those who were the recipient of unwanted advances and want to air it.

    If you want to pose a hypothetical assault case and use pseudo legal terms perhaps a new thread is the way to go.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Where do I start. I was early developer, not pretty enough for guys to find me threatening and not unattractive enough for them not to try. From 12 on I had men grabbing my breasts (multiple times), threatening me with rape, committing serious sexual assault to stalking me. The two stalkers were both short of a few shillings and harmless. Then there was a guy who was circling around me on his bike when I was walking to the car threatening to rape me. His trousers were pulled down so his genitals were out and the whole scene must have been grotesquely funny. When I didn't flinch and told him I will put a cigarette out on his arse he cycled away. Worse was a guy who sat behind me in the cinema, he started grabbing my breasts and then kissing my neck. I was 12 and too embarrassed to make a scene, after trying to make him stop for a while unsuccessfully I whacked his hand with umbrella handle. I heard short intake if breath and soon after that he left.

    I also slapped one of my father's employees when he grabbed my breasts. I think he was an apprentice and under age and I couldn't be older than 15.

    There was one much worse attack that I don't feel like discussing, and a few more wandering hands I didn't overly react to because you almost start to expect that kind of stuff in certain situations. From my experience kids can be really bad. I remember two girls in my year who were grabbing boy's balls during breaks in school. They were 13 or 14 and nobody really reported them or even reacted to it because it was girls doing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    Gay dude on the road tried to get me to pull him off when I was a teen, cornered me out the back and locked the gate. I jumped it.

    Friend of the family had a feel when I was sleeping. Told my mother & there was some serious trouble for him over that.

    Not nice but the way I look at that is it could have been much worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭notsoyoungwan


    Christ, I saw this thread this morning and decided to post about the time I was raped- I thought it might be cathartic, might stimulate discussion and might even help someone unfortunate enough to find themselves in a similar situation.

    Having read the rest of the thread, the pontificating, point-scoring and utter sh1te that’s been posted, I’m left wondering why I fcuking bothered. I thought boards was better than this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod-From here on if someone posts a story* and puts in at the end no questions please I will personally perma ban anyone questioning them and will fight it to the bitter end. People are being dicks in this thread and it ends here.


    Also, If someone wants to post anonymously they can do so in the personal issues forum located here https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=127

    Instructions on how to post anonymously Lifted straight from the PI charter.

    Posting Unregistered

    If you have a problem you're embarrassed about, then feel free to use the "Guest" option to post. You can do this by logging out and then posting. Abuse of this will not be tolerated.

    Anyone can post anonymously by logging out (if registered) and posting a reply. If you are not registered you may still post, your nickname would be seen as "Unregistered".

    You change the name of "Unregistered" to something else, please consider doing this for clarity's sake so that your posts can be identified and we do not have several people using the function at the same time all listed as "Unregistered" with in the one thread.

    Also, your name and IP address will not be shown to the general public. However, this cannot be abused, please. The owners/Administrators of boards.ie do have the powers to view any post's IP address but only as a last resort.

    Anonymity is sacred but trouble making is most definitely not.

    If you are a regular user posting as unregistered you cannot edit your unregistered post. And the Mods on Personal Issues cannot guarantee to edit your post the next morning if you have any regrets about what you posted. As we cannot guarantee that you are the original poster.


    *(wrong word but can't think of better)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭joe6pack


    I'm not totally up to date with modern colloqialism but is this username cool?
    [Redacted]


    Mod-Banned


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Christ, I saw this thread this morning and decided to post about the time I was raped- I thought it might be cathartic, might stimulate discussion and might even help someone unfortunate enough to find themselves in a similar situation.

    Having read the rest of the thread, the pontificating, point-scoring and utter sh1te that’s been posted, I’m left wondering why I fcuking bothered. I thought boards was better than this.

    You helped people. Some may not have even posted their own experience but felt less alone reading others. Those who dragged it off topic and turned it into something else did not undo the good you did yourself.
    I wish you all the best in your healing.


  • Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    joe6pack wrote: »
    I'm not totally up to date with modern colloqialism but is this username cool?
    [Redacted]

    No, it's not. Where did you see it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    Unfortunately, I saw a guy step in to defend a girl by grabbing the guy verbally abusing her in a head lock and she turned on him.

    So he saw a verbal confrontation and decided to escalate it to a physical confrontation. Not surprised it didn't go well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    :p
    I was raped at 17 and I’ve spent my whole adult life never feeling clean within my own body.

    That is a very powerful description. I'm sorry you have to go through that.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2 Jerome Henderson


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Where do I start. I was early developer, not pretty enough for guys to find me threatening and not unattractive enough for them not to try. From 12 on I had men grabbing my breasts (multiple times), threatening me with rape, committing serious sexual assault to stalking me. The two stalkers were both short of a few shillings and harmless. Then there was a guy who was circling around me on his bike when I was walking to the car threatening to rape me. His trousers were pulled down so his genitals were out and the whole scene must have been grotesquely funny. When I didn't flinch and told him I will put a cigarette out on his arse he cycled away. Worse was a guy who sat behind me in the cinema, he started grabbing my breasts and then kissing my neck. I was 12 and too embarrassed to make a scene, after trying to make him stop for a while unsuccessfully I whacked his hand with umbrella handle. I heard short intake if breath and soon after that he left.

    I also slapped one of my father's employees when he grabbed my breasts. I think he was an apprentice and under age and I couldn't be older than 15.

    There was one much worse attack that I don't feel like discussing, and a few more wandering hands I didn't overly react to because you almost start to expect that kind of stuff in certain situations. From my experience kids can be really bad. I remember two girls in my year who were grabbing boy's balls during breaks in school. They were 13 or 14 and nobody really reported them or even reacted to it because it was girls doing it.

    Where on earth did you grow up? Kabul?


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where on earth did you grow up? Kabul?

    Did you register just to post that gem?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2 Jerome Henderson


    Candie wrote: »
    Did you register just to post that gem?

    Yes. I am curios as to what **** hole she grew up in though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Yeah, lots..... that school thing someone mentioned was rampant at our school. There were seven or eight girls in our year that if you were walking towards them in the corridor, you instinctively positioned your school bag in front of you so they wouldn't be able to grab a feel. Like a pack of Emus they were. But we secretly (or not so secretly) loved it. Or at least I never heard anything close to a genuine complaint being made about it.

    Started drinking in Bruxelles when I was 16 and that place downstairs was like the pit of a gig. Girls would feel you up regular. Full on while they chatted away to their boyfriends who were stood right next to you. In other bars and clubs over the years I experienced similar. Usually while waiting to get served and maybe the odd time on a dance floor.

    The truth is thought that lots of the time that kinda of thing was very much 'wanted' by me (or maybe welcomed is a better word). Not always of course, as often times I knew the person and in my head I'd be thinking 'Oh crap' as they felt me up, as knew it meant I was going to have to spend the next ten minutes or so explaining to them why I wasn't in to them, or sometimes just because I simply wasn't attracted to them BUT, just because those sexual advances were unwanted by me, doesn't mean that because of that those women therefore had done something inappropriate to me, as how would they know that what they did would be unwanted.

    As for situations beyond just mere handsy wimmins, I did see some bio energy healer guy (I know, but it was the 90's.. give me a break :p) who so obviously (now looking back) sexually assaulted me but at the time I genuinely thought it must have been how these clowns do their thing. It was just light touching and stuff but I had my eyes closed. I bet had I opened them I would have seen him whacking off. Creeps me out thinking about it. I did think of reporting it many years later but what Id have to say would be so damn vague and so I never bothered in the end. I'd say there's a can of worms to opened there with a lot of those unregulated alternative medicine guys as they have access to so many people at our most vulnerable. Hard enough getting medics investigated for impropriety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Where on earth did you grow up? Kabul?

    Central Europe. It's not limited to one nationality. Worst attack was in a hostel in Turkey, the rest were different ages or nationalities. My parents employed about 25 mechanics at one time, most of them in twenties or younger. There was an odd arse among them. You learn to avoid groups of male tourists in night clubs, because they are away from home and can get away acting like idiots. Some were lonely headcases and I think the guy on bike was just attempting to intimidate me.

    Once you ignore more severe offences most other stuff is a common experience among women (men too but probably in a lesser degree), it's often just shrugged off as something that happens and only when you list it all together you notice how often it actually happened.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again



    Started drinking in Bruxelles when I was 16 and that place downstairs was like the pit of a gig. Girls would feel you up regular. Full on while they chatted away to their boyfriends who were stood right next to you. In other bars and clubs over the years I experienced similar. Usually while waiting to get served and maybe the odd time on a dance floor.

    The truth is thought that lots of the time that kinda of thing was very much 'wanted' by me (or maybe welcomed is a better word). Not always of course, as often times I knew the person and in my head I'd be thinking 'Oh crap' as they felt me up, as knew it meant I was going to have to spend the next ten minutes or so explaining to them why I wasn't in to them, or sometimes just because I simply wasn't attracted to them BUT, just because those sexual advances were unwanted by me, doesn't mean that because of that those women therefore had done something inappropriate to me, as how would they know that what they did would be unwanted.

    I can't judge your views on it because it's all a personal thing but in my own experience*(generally older women) as someone who's look changed quiet a lot , this sort of stuff fell of a cliff when I began to look much more adult/serious.
    It changed the way I look on it I think because rather than it just being an annoyance or invasion of space it was a behaviour that occured because I didn't present myself as someone who could handle/assert themselves

    E.g it's about taking liberties with someone that's wont stand up to themselves rather than attraction or misjudged flirting.
    That said as a poster who bounces previously said they experience it a lot maybe I'm misjudging it.


    *Which is really not that serious in the context of some of this stuff on the thread.


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