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Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Nice to see not everyone is afraid to speak up.


    https://twitter.com/Diane_Keaton/status/958070947268804608

    Did they also date?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Did they also date?

    I believe they did, he generally dated his muses, barring Mariel Hemingway. She was only 17, in a time when more folks would notice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I believe they did, he generally dated his muses, barring Mariel Hemingway. She was only 17, in a time when more folks would notice.

    What age was his "adopted step daughter" when he got with her?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I believe they did, he generally dated his muses, barring Mariel Hemingway. She was only 17, in a time when more folks would notice.

    According to her he tried but she rejected him

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/woody-allen-mariel-hemingway-manhattan
    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    What age was his "adopted step daughter" when he got with her?

    I think she was 19 or 20 but he had been in her life as a step father type figure since she was a child


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    It appears Mark Salling, an actor from Glee who plead guilty last year to possession of child porn and was due to be sentenced in March, was found dead today from an apparent suicide by hanging. He was facing 4-7 years in prison and would have had to register as a sex offender.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/01/30/glee-star-mark-salling-dies-at-35/?utm_term=.febe42e973a1


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,524 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    While people joked about that kilkenny Gaa story, i think it did bring up some disturbing questions about GAA and sports culture and how women are viewed and treated.

    The women in the Kilkenny GAA 'incident' were consenting and doing their job. They are not victims. I wouldn't conflate the two issues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    It appears Mark Salling, an actor from Glee who plead guilty last year to possession of child porn and was due to be sentenced in March, was found dead today from an apparent suicide by hanging. He was facing 4-7 years in prison and would have had to register as a sex offender.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/01/30/glee-star-mark-salling-dies-at-35/?utm_term=.febe42e973a1

    Its his parents I feel sorry for. And his brother. They want to mourn him, but the media will be swamping them as they cope with the loss.

    He was a scummy person, no doubt, but he was still their child, and a brother.

    RIP.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Its his parents I feel sorry for. And his brother. They want to mourn him, but the media will be swamping them as they cope with the loss.

    He was a scummy person, no doubt, but he was still their child, and a brother.

    RIP.

    The hollyweird response is inappropriate, why can't they think of the young victims instead and focus their energy there and grieve in private.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    According to her he tried but she rejected him

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/woody-allen-mariel-hemingway-manhattan



    I think she was 19 or 20 but he had been in her life as a step father type figure since she was a child

    Woody is a dirty creepy ba$tard


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lLook, we all know (from the many reports over the years) that rape and sexual assault victims can freeze, go into shock etc, but with respect you'd want to be fierce naive to just blindly accept that from every woman that has ever claimed it alongside an accusation.

    Just reading about the Ulster rape trial and this paragraph really stood out given your post: “You think you are going to kick and scream and fight but it does not work that way. You literally just freeze. You know where this is going,” she told Judge Patricia Smyth yesterday.

    Are we to take her at her word or would we be blindly naive to believer her?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Sand wrote: »
    The women in the Kilkenny GAA 'incident' were consenting and doing their job. They are not victims. I wouldn't conflate the two issues.

    Not victims, no, but the surrounding attitude is what I meant.
    cloudatlas wrote: »
    The hollyweird response is inappropriate, why can't they think of the young victims instead and focus their energy there and grieve in private.

    Yeah, one of his castmates tweeted a double angel emoji, regarding Cory Monteith and Salling both being dead.
    The guy was a paedophile, hardly a damn angel. Part of his sentence was to pay compensation to the victims in the photos and videos. Now with his death, they get nothing.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336185/Mark-Sallings-family-knew-suicidal.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Nice to see not everyone is afraid to speak up.


    https://twitter.com/Diane_Keaton/status/958070947268804608

    His ex-girlfriend?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Not victims, no, but the surrounding attitude is what I meant.



    Yeah, one of his castmates tweeted a double angel emoji, regarding Cory Monteith and Salling both being dead.
    The guy was a paedophile, hardly a damn angel. Part of his sentence was to pay compensation to the victims in the photos and videos. Now with his death, they get nothing.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5336185/Mark-Sallings-family-knew-suicidal.html

    Will they not get it from his estate, if there is anything?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Meanwhile, the number of women who have accused former President George Bush Senior of groping them now stands at 5:



    http://www.pressherald.com/2017/10/27/fourth-woman-says-president-george-h-w-bush-groped-her-in-photo-shoot/

    Maybe he picked up some bad habits when he was in the Skull and Bones society back in his Yale days. That's the rich kids club where you must lie in a coffin naked reciting your entire sexual history while the other members masturbate to it.
    Nothing weird or perverted about that at all... :eek:

    America's self appointed Grand master of morality, Stephen Colbert had some eyebrow raising comments on the whole matter:



    https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-colbert-doesnt-want-to-believe-bush-sr-gropes-women-oh-come-on-not-him

    And therein lies the problem, Stephen. People like you DON'T want to hear this stuff. Especially when it's your buddies doing it. And you'll take it a step further and actively cover up sexual harassment when it suits you.

    This is a textbook case of an enabler playing down sexual abuse. The same guy who milked the allegations about Trump is suddenly making excuses...
    Bush seems to be getting a free pass on this. The man should be renamed Teflon George as nothing ever sticks to him for long.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Will they not get it from his estate, if there is anything?

    Hopefully they can sue his estate...but considering his parents had to help post his bail. I wonder if there is anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    I see Ryan Seacrest has been allowed to keep his job (three months after he was accused of sexual harassment by a former E! wardrobe stylist) because E! were unable to find enough evidence to support the claims. Which is as it should be. But why not the same rules for everyone?


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    Laois_Man wrote: »
    I see Ryan Seacrest has been allowed to keep his job (three months after he was accused of sexual harassment by a former E! wardrobe stylist) because E! were unable to find enough evidence to support the claims. Which is as it should be. But why not the same rules for everyone?

    was the wardrobe stylist a female? if so, that makes sense, he's as gay as a pink ribboned maypole dat chap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Its his parents I feel sorry for. And his brother. They want to mourn him, but the media will be swamping them as they cope with the loss.

    He was a scummy person, no doubt, but he was still their child, and a brother.

    RIP.

    I feel sorry for them having to deal so publicly with finding out what he really was.

    In no way do I think he deserves any sympathy or mourning from anyone though - he was scum as you say and imo he took the cowards way out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I feel sorry for them having to deal so publicly with finding out what he really was.

    In no way do I think he deserves any sympathy or mourning from anyone though - he was scum as you say and imo he took the cowards way out.

    I agree-but sadly we can't switch off emotions. His mom was broken hearted, in denial until he pled guilty. There will always be questions as to 'why' he became a paedo-Parents often wonder was it something they did.
    He gets no sympathy from me either.

    Alex Winter of Bill and Ted fame has revealed he was sexually abused as a child.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-ted-star-alex-winter-says-he-was-sexually-abused-as-a-child-star-1081204

    Rose McGowan details a 'statutory rape' from when she was 15. I include this because it goes to show how she was manipulated by Weinstein.
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rose-mcgowan-tells-ronan-farrow-hollywood-predator-1081182

    James Franco's high school mural's taken down from his old high school.
    Seems majorly harsh in my eyes.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/james-francos-high-school-mural-taken-down-sexual-misconduct-claims-1081058

    And now people want the 'women need to step up' Record president to step down.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/recording-academy-chief-asked-step-down-by-female-executives-1081152


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,965 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Uma Thurman has been interviewed by the New York Times and provided more details of what Harveyn Weinstein did. There's a lot more about Quentin Tarantino too: how he confronted Weinstein once he was convinced she was serious (which took time), but also how he forced her in to an unsafe driving stunt on set and almost got her killed. :mad:

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,288 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    bnt wrote: »
    Uma Thurman has been interviewed by the New York Times and provided more details of what Harveyn Weinstein did. There's a lot more about Quentin Tarantino too: how he confronted Weinstein once he was convinced she was serious (which took time), but also how he forced her in to an unsafe driving stunt on set and almost got her killed. :mad:

    She also details being raped at 16 by an actor. Some of the details are disturbing, for sure.

    The stunt went awry,and left Uma with permanent injuries. It also highlights Tarantino's totally bullspit 'empowering women' crud that he pulled on Kill Bill, or any of his movies-in that it wasn't empowering at all, behind the scenes, the women were being abused like crazy. (Zoe Bell was also injured on that movie-as Uma's stunt double, requiring surgery), Not just by Weinstein.

    It says a lot of why she never worked with him after KB-and possibly why her career died.
    It's also disturbing as to how these actresses/actors/directors etc turn a blind eye in order to get that 'trophy'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod-Locking this for a little bit while I check with the legal team about discussing ongoing trials. It's outside the jurisdiction but I want to check to be sure Boards(or posters) don't get in trouble for posting.


    update 04/02/18
    Still waiting on a reply from above. Being the weekend it's a bit slow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod-The powers that be have come back and their will be no discussion of the ongoing rape trial taking place in Belfast. I'm posting this and leaving the thread locked for about an hour so anyone subbed can see this and get the message. I'll also update the op and title.

    I'd like to apologize for the delay in coming back to the posters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod-Thread reopened. Please heed the warning above. Thank you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    I see Ryan Seacrest has been allowed to keep his job (three months after he was accused of sexual harassment by a former E! wardrobe stylist) because E! were unable to find enough evidence to support the claims. Which is as it should be. But why not the same rules for everyone?

    Does Ryan have shares in E Network, he produces many of it's shows


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Seen on Twitter that an old interview between Tarantino and Howard Stern from 2003 has come to light again, where Tarantino defended Polanski. Usually I loath this social media craze of dragging up something someone said when they were years younger, but can't really defend Tarantino here. It's fcuked up, his only saving grace is that I'm aware that Howard Stern was a show where people very much played up to the controversy of the show and said things and acted in a way that played up to that controversy.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seen on Twitter that an old interview between Tarantino and Howard Stern from 2003 has come to light again, where Tarantino defended Polanski. Usually I loath this social media craze of dragging up something someone said when they were years younger, but can't really defend Tarantino here. It's fcuked up, his only saving grace is that I'm aware that Howard Stern was a show where people very much played up to the controversy of the show and said things and acted in a way that played up to that controversy.
    When I thought it was just a one-off with Polanski I kinda thought that what he'd been through could mitigate what he did to an extent. Then the rest came out and it's like "Naww".


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,505 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Yeah, and it was a massive dispute between Haim and Feldman-Eggert dating Haim I mean. (The were also engaged).

    There was a movie (Blown Away)that Haim and Feldman were in where Feldman had a sex scene with Eggert.
    Despite it being simulated, it led to such a fallout between the two that it was the beginning of the end of their friendship, and film partnership-before they mended a fractured reunion.

    Apparently Eggert gave an interview almost 5 years ago where she said 'she' pressured Baio into having sex for the first time-her first time, not his. She was 17, he was in his 20s.

    http://www.wetpaint.com/nicole-eggert-i-lost-my-608636/

    So it seems a bit odd now in retrospect...her claiming she was molested.

    Also, Siobhan O'Connor's trying toredeem herself.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/siobhan-oconnor-campaign-descended-cult-11920176

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nicole-eggert-files-police-report-scott-baio-1082702

    Nicole Eggert gone to cops about Scott Baio


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Seen on Twitter that an old interview between Tarantino and Howard Stern from 2003 has come to light again, where Tarantino defended Polanski. Usually I loath this social media craze of dragging up something someone said when they were years younger, but can't really defend Tarantino here. It's fcuked up, his only saving grace is that I'm aware that Howard Stern was a show where people very much played up to the controversy of the show and said things and acted in a way that played up to that controversy.

    When even Howard stern is shocked at what you're saying, which he was, it's time to shut up.

    Interesting how there's been barely any comments about this on here whereas the likes of Meryl Streep and other females who defended and worked with Polanski over the years have been raked over the coals.


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