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Dairy chit chat II

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Six calved milking machine tomorrow evening.......hopefully


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭3 the square


    Anyone know the price per acre of land just for 2 cuts of silage?
    Fertiliser it yourself

    200 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    I'm going to them on Wednesday collecting other stuff, on my way down from the North. Shur I throw a few bags on for ya ;) COD

    Sent you a PM!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Got a call earlier from the VP of my Coop looking for a meeting ‘very soon’...
    About what? Wouldn’t commit so I said come to my place...

    Hmmm. Small Coop that processes 1bln litres of cows milk and 200mnl litres goats milk....could be interesting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Milk replacer prices.

    Elvor precision €1545/t delivered.
    Elvor dami veau €1550/t.

    Bought another product called Neoveau (61% skim 25% pr) €1600/t. Just to try it.

    Minerals.
    I only use minerals for milkers and the same one for years...€425/t.

    Prices are falling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Question folks, was asked to genotype a few calves, how long would you be waiting for results back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,707 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Question folks, was asked to genotype a few calves, how long would you be waiting for results back?

    2 weeks ,sooner u get them off sooner u get results .u could have the next superstar ai bull so worth the wait ,9.5 times out of 10 amounts to nothing tho .lost count of amount of calves tested here and none came to anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,707 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Milk replacer prices.

    Elvor precision €1545/t delivered.
    Elvor dami veau €1550/t.

    Bought another product called Neoveau (61% skim 25% pr) €1600/t. Just to try it.

    Minerals.
    I only use minerals for milkers and the same one for years...€425/t.

    Prices are falling.

    In lovely old Ireland everything been talked up ,meal ,fertliser ,minerals etc we must be a real soft touch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    Milk replacer prices.

    Elvor precision €1545/t delivered. Elvor dami veau €1550/t.

    Bought another product called Neoveau (61% skim 25% pr) €1600/t. Just to try it.

    Minerals. I only use minerals for milkers and the same one for years...€425/t.

    Bought another product called Neoveau (61% skim 25% pr) €1600/t. Just to try it.

    Unreal prices. God knows what they'd charge us for that 60% skim one close to 3k a tonne i recon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Is everyone going to replacer, I've always fed whole milk. Improved performance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    kevthegaff wrote:
    Is everyone going to replacer, I've always fed whole milk. Improved performance?


    No just switched because of outbreak of crypto. Now I'm set up for it with water heater in calf house it's so easy and its costing 24-26c a litre. Can't beat milk for performance. If you have no disease problems I would feed replacer to heifers and waste milk to bulls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    Unreal prices. God knows what they'd charge us for that 60% skim one close to 3k a tonne i recon.

    You’re from The Peoples Republic blackdog?
    ODT from Carrigtwohill are passing here everyday. It’d take one of the lads here two mins to load a palet or two...~€100 for transport...

    Elvor salesman says it’ll be sub €1500 from first March.
    Pm if interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    No just switched because of outbreak of crypto. Now I'm set up for it with water heater in calf house it's so easy and its costing 24-26c a litre. Can't beat milk for performance. If you have no disease problems I would feed replacer to heifers and waste milk to bulls.

    Fag box calc says around 20cpl...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭PMU


    We're off. A few days late but 299 to go

    me too, but I kept them in for the snow to clear. did yours eat much today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭blackdog1


    You’re from The Peoples Republic blackdog?
    ODT from Carrigtwohill are passing here everyday. It’d take one of the lads here two mins to load a palet or two...~€100 for transport...

    Elvor salesman says it’ll be sub €1500 from first March.
    Pm if interested.

    I think you'll be getting alot of pm's! let me know what you think of the precision and the 60% skim one. I might try and get that myself based on your recommendation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,623 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    blackdog1 wrote: »
    I think you'll be getting alot of pm's! let me know what you think of the precision and the 60% skim one. I might try and get that myself based on your recommendation

    Same as


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    How's everyone getting on with their ICBF reports?

    I got 3 five stars on mine. So I'm about average on that one.

    Pleased with my milk performance though.
    Fat + Protein kgs/cow 524.
    Litres per cow per day 19.66.

    All spring calving. Hol/fr cows with a few Monty crosses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Overall I'm down on production per cow, which I could get hung up on, but I know the 2 or 3 reasons for that and can fix the this yr. However fertility figures well up on previous years, 70% 6wk calving rate, crap by most you compact spring lads but that's come a hell of along way here from our ayr calving days, Hopefully push that up towards 75/80% this year.

    6 5stars but that's only out of the Glanbia liquid pool, so fairly meaningless metric in my view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    any one get a section done lately? Just got bill from vet 400 euro for section


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,763 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    any one get a section done lately? Just got bill from vet 400 euro for section

    Did both survive? How much of that was drugs?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,126 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    How's everyone getting on with their ICBF reports?

    I got 3 five stars on mine. So I'm about average on that one.

    Pleased with my milk performance though.
    Fat + Protein kgs/cow 524.
    Litres per cow per day 19.66.

    All spring calving. Hol/fr cows with a few Monty crosses.

    Two five stars here 608kgs ms per cow and 22.13 litres sent a day, im scrapping the barrel on the rest of the kpi's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    cow survived milking away back on twice a day, must go at stitches in next few days, calf was a deformed smallemberg case

    only injection given was 1 bottle of pen strip after section

    glad to still have her, part of 400 is call out fee and injection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


    Chart showing clearly that there is no entrepeneurs profit from high cost systems...no matter what the price of milk is...

    The outliers however are supermarket contracts in red dots, and French and Italian regional and speciality cheeses in green dots...

    Figures are for year ended Q1 2016, so will not include the extremely low prices later in '16..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭alps


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,452 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    jaymla627 wrote: »
    Two five stars here 608kgs ms per cow and 22.13 litres sent a day, im scrapping the barrel on the rest of the kpi's

    Aw just because ye didn't get a few more stars on them?!
    61/65 stars here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,707 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    587 kgms ,86% 6 week in calf rate ,100% heifers calved 22/26 months ,371 day ci,4.16% fat 3.6 p .128 ebi,supplied milk from 04/02 to 22/12 and milked oad from 15/11 to dry off


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,501 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    alps wrote: »
    Chart showing clearly that there is no entrepeneurs profit from high cost systems...no matter what the price of milk is...

    The outliers however are supermarket contracts in red dots, and French and Italian regional and speciality cheeses in green dots...

    Figures are for year ended Q1 2016, so will not include the extremely low prices later in '16..
    Everyone is thinking where is my dot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    What is entrepreneurs profit?? See different phrases thrown around like free cash etc only seems a load of bollix,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    alps wrote: »
    Chart showing clearly that there is no entrepeneurs profit from high cost systems...no matter what the price of milk is...

    The outliers however are supermarket contracts in red dots, and French and Italian regional and speciality cheeses in green dots...

    Figures are for year ended Q1 2016, so will not include the extremely low prices later in '16..

    Is that individual farms or countries?

    If I remember correctly, we're pretty expensive on a total economic cost basis, at least in the european context. Difficult to get an up to date price / litre to place us on that graph but I think there were only a couple of countries more expensive than us - at least in 2012.

    I recall that the Italians may well have been one of them!

    Edit : Total costs were about 4.50 per kg solids in the 2012 analysis, Denmark and Italy were more expensive (4.75 and 5.25 approx) .. UK was about 3.30-3.50 (had to pluck these figures by eye off a graph so they aren't exact).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Icbf report here all five stars on top as usuall and all one stars on bottom. My only worry are these guys getting money to make charts that I don't want or need


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