Dairy chit chat II

whelan2

mahoney_j wrote: »

Check cows at 11.30’,check camera at 3 am up at 6 over 40%. Calved only up one night ,crucial get 5/6 hours good sleep this time of year

Calving shed at back of house. Oh goes to the bathroom around 2am everynight. He looks out the window and tells me if anything is calving. I get up at half 5.

Buford T. Justice XIX

I was sent these links about the current situation in Holland with the whole registering heifers calves as half twins off cows so as to keep below their N&P quota levels. They don't use age to go from heifer to cow, the heifer only become a cow when they calve. So they now have calved heifers being counted as heifers rather than cows. 7,700 farms involved, about a third of farms there, according to the two links below. Sorry but they're in French but a bit of copy and paste and google translate will get you sorted.


https://www.ouest-france.fr/economie...ys-bas-5551095


http://lait.reussir.fr/actualites/en...:6BJ94LI6.html

Interestingly, the Dutch Nitrates derogation is up for renewal this April and they may have a job in keeping it. If it's lost, they may have to cull 30% of their cows.

Sillycave

Just wondering what meal are people feeding cows after calving, ie high energy or high protein or AN other?

mahoney_j

Sillycave wrote: »

Just wondering what meal are people feeding cows after calving, ie high energy or high protein or AN other?

17% hi energy with megafat and nis added ,1.1 ufl

alps

mahoney_j wrote: »

17% hi energy with megafat and nis added ,1.1 ufl

Is it possible to give an ingredient breakdown on that Mahoney?

mahoney_j

alps wrote: »

Is it possible to give an ingredient breakdown on that Mahoney?

It would ,I’ll pm u with it later but off hand it’s maize ,barley ,soya ,beet pulp ,rapeseed ,3.5% megafat and 10% nis

Gawddawggonnit

Was loading straw all morning and a dairy farmer came for a load. He’s got robots so the conversation turned to scc. The last time we spoke he was on 400/450k scc. He’s now consistently sub 200.
Said he’s vaccinating with a product called Starvac or Starvax (sp?) and mastitis is rare and scc isn’t a problem anymore.
I’ve googled it and can’t find it.
Anyone know about it?

My spelling must be wrong...

alps

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Was loading straw all morning and a dairy farmer came for a load. He’s got robots so the conversation turned to scc. The last time we spoke he was on 400/450k scc. He’s now consistently sub 200.
Said he’s vaccinating with a product called Starvac or Starvax (sp?) and mastitis is rare and scc isn’t a problem anymore.
I’ve googled it and can’t find it.
Anyone know about it?

My spelling must be wrong...

https://www.hipra.com/portal/en/hipra/animalhealth/products/detail/startvac

stretch film

alps wrote: »

https://www.hipra.com/portal/en/hipra/animalhealth/products/detail/startvac

Great facility that website

Gawddawggonnit

alps wrote: »

https://www.hipra.com/portal/en/hipra/animalhealth/products/detail/startvac

Thanks Alps.

Anyone use it?
Does it work?
He said that he uses it twice a year and it costs €3.75 per dose.

alps

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Thanks Alps.

Anyone use it?
Does it work?
He said that he uses it twice a year and it costs €3.75 per dose.

Definetly warrants a bit of investigation....wonder how a targeted use would work out...very cheap if you could benefit from doing high scc cows only..

kevthegaff

Gawddawggonnit wrote:

Was loading straw all morning and a dairy farmer came for a load. He’s got robots so the conversation turned to scc. The last time we spoke he was on 400/450k scc. He’s now consistently sub 200. Said he’s vaccinating with a product called Starvac or Starvax (sp?) and mastitis is rare and scc isn’t a problem anymore. I’ve googled it and can’t find it. Anyone know about it?

Friend of mine vaccinated heifers before, not sure was it this product but worked well. Only heard of a vacine found 2 yrs ago, surprised it's on the shelf already

Brown Podzol

alps wrote: »

Definetly warrants a bit of investigation....wonder how a targeted use would work out...very cheap if you could benefit from doing high scc cows only..

Trialled in Morepark about three years ago. I never saw the results.

Gawddawggonnit

16k litres down the drain.

No matter how simple and foolproof the system there’s always a fcuktard that’ll prove it fallible...

Gawddawggonnit

kevthegaff wrote: »

Friend of mine vaccinated heifers before, not sure was it this product but worked well. Only heard of a vacine found 2 yrs ago, surprised it's on the shelf already

Why would you have problems with heifers? Surely they’re as clean as you can get.

einn32

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Why would you have problems with heifers? Surely they’re as clean as you can get.

Lot of people sealing heifers now.

freedominacup

einn32 wrote: »

Lot of people sealing heifers now.

Lots of sales reps coming up with new (or repackaging old ways) of separating farmers from their cash.

Tell those lads the nineties are on the phone and they want their sales pitches back.

einn32

freedominacup wrote: »

Lots of sales reps coming up with new (or repackaging old ways) of separating farmers from their cash.

Tell those lads the nineties are on the phone and they want their sales pitches back.

I've never met so many sales reps on the farm I'm on in my life.

mahoney_j

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Why would you have problems with heifers? Surely they’re as clean as you can get.

Is it just a solution to poor hygiene in sheds ,not enough cubicles per cow ,stress etc .seems crazy breaking a natural seal

Gawddawggonnit

freedominacup wrote: »

Tell those lads the nineties are on the phone and they want their sales pitches back.

That’s really funny.

Tea down my nose!

Thanks.

Gawddawggonnit

Delvo or Charm?

Where to buy, and how much?

I’d to go to a neighbor to get the milk tested this morning...if bitchin’ and moaning was an international sport he could tog out for Les Bleus.
He spent €500k on a shed for 50 cows, then threw in a robot...now he thinks he’s owed a living.

Gawddawggonnit

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

Mooooo

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Delvo or Charm?

Where to buy, and how much?

I’d to go to a neighbor to get the milk tested this morning...if bitchin’ and moaning was an international sport he could tog out for Les Bleus.
He spent €500k on a shed for 50 cows, then threw in a robot...now he thinks he’s owed a living.

For tank or individual cows? Coops use delvo here so would use that for tank, charm test be ok for cows

Mooooo

Know a few lads sealing heifers, went from a couple calving down with mastitis to none. Ideally we'd all have perfect facilities but until then other options may have to be looked at

Waffletraktor

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/359/6371/eaam7240

alps

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

Towns/cities most at risk from rising sea levels due to global warming...

Tidal effect less in medditeranian...less of an issue

cycle4fun

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

He spent €500k on a shed for 50 cows, then threw in a robot...now he thinks he’s owed a living.

lol reminds me of someone I know too, he was constantly moaning a few years ago, he is not moaning as much now that things have improved a bit but he still moans.

Keepgrowing

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

16k litres down the drain.

No matter how simple and foolproof the system there’s always a fcuktard that’ll prove it fallible...

So so true

Say my name

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

The list of ports that French fishermen have threatened to blockade unless they can fish in their waters.

Reggie.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

Its something to do with shipping anyways as most of the major ports are highlighted there. Not sure of what import or export it is tho. Grain maybe?