Dairy chit chat II

K.G. · 03-02-2018 04:01PM

How fresh cows go out totally depends on weather.a good day and cows quickly get over calving but wet day makes them worse.dont be any hurry to put them out until ive got a reasonable number together

Timmaay · 03-02-2018 11:57PM

Timmaay wrote: »

If it's too wet and cold to graze all the cows will stay inside (aside from 2 hr strip grazing if possible), only out by day yet, nice reasonably sunny day here now.

And I go to check all the cows half hr ago, no milkers in the shed at all ugh. They had broke open a gate that I had open earlier and obviously didn't tie right, and all happily out grazing the paddock beside the milking parlour. I just left them there, gate still open to return back inside if they want.

George Sunsnow · 04-02-2018 12:15AM

Timmaay wrote: »

And I go to check all the cows half hr ago, no milkers in the shed at all ugh. They had broke open a gate that I had open earlier and obviously didn't tie right, and all happily out grazing the paddock beside the milking parlour. I just left them there, gate still open to return back inside if they want.

It will probably be snowing overnight Monday into Tuesday morning in your area
Monday itself will be Baltic probably only 1 or 2c at most in a bitter east wind
Don’t blame the messenger!

Gawddawggonnit · 04-02-2018 09:28AM

freedominacup wrote: »

I had a look at paddocks last weekend. Covers upto 14/1500kg on some but I'm very slow to go out atm. I just couldn't see the same feed quality available outside. Where would sugars come from. Probably have to increase conc levels when we do go. Hitting the 30% by 01/03 will force our hand.

Serious covers here also. It got 30t/ha of well composted fym and turkey litter along with 12k litres of duck slurry injected in before Xmas. At the time the ground was too hard for the discs to cut a slot...
Massive growth but of absolutely no feed value.
It’ll keep the drys going but won’t do much for the heifers.
If you don’t have other stock to graze it, it’ll cost on concentrate, especially for fresh calvers. A few warm days might come in the next couple of weeks.

As you say, where would the sugars come from.

Gawddawggonnit · 04-02-2018 09:59AM

freedominacup wrote: »

What things? We got a small number of deformed calves a few years ago. I think we were lucky in the time of year it hit. What is the story with acquired immunity? We haven’t had the conditions in recent years for another hit but I remember someone saying that an animal who had the disease wouldn't get it again. There was an assumption that if cows showed symptoms every animal had been exposed to it and would be immune ginger forward.

I took a lot of notes when it was going through the herd but my notebook is at home...
Cows going to term and having deformed calves isn’t really a problem.
Cows aborting at under 8mts is a disaster. Heifers tend to abort at 4 to 6mts pregnant.

The biggest problem is at breeding time. Cows and heifers scanned in calf repeating...
My experience of the virus at breeding was to keep scanning every week, inc ones scanned in calf. Bit of a dose but it keeps you updated. Cows spit out the embryos for the slightest of reasons and go silent for 6+weeks. Rich grass is a basterd.

My experience is that once an animal gets the virus, they and their calves are immune. They show absolutely no sign of illness whatsoever when they have it.
Warm growthy humid type weather at breeding time isn’t good at all.

It takes well over a year++ to rattle through the herd, but once it’s done you quickly forget about it. The very odd deformed calf will keep reminding you.

Main thing is...from 36days after first service start scanning...and keep at it until cows are 6mts pregnant. Milk urea levels are vital at breeding also.

That’s my experience but Greysides will probably pop in saying poppycock!

Mooooo · 04-02-2018 10:11AM

Chinese takeaway last night bad idea, energy zapped today

Mooooo · 04-02-2018 10:17AM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Serious covers here also. It got 30t/ha of well composted fym and turkey litter along with 12k litres of duck slurry injected in before Xmas. At the time the ground was too hard for the discs to cut a slot...
Massive growth but of absolutely no feed value.
It’ll keep the drys going but won’t do much for the heifers.
If you don’t have other stock to graze it, it’ll cost on concentrate, especially for fresh calvers. A few warm days might come in the next couple of weeks.

As you say, where would the sugars come from.

Do you test the grass? I guess over here esp when there gping out for only 3 hours is it just gives a lad a chance to do calves cubicles etc while they are out and gets the grass going again. It will still make up a small portion of diet for another few weeks anyway. Obviously your ladies are more highly tuned with a good few later in lactation so the disruption may cause more of a hit in yield

Reggie. · 04-02-2018 10:39AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Chinese takeaway last night bad idea, energy zapped today

Why's that?

Mooooo · 04-02-2018 10:53AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Why's that?

Like a lot of takeaway stuff the eating of it is grand the aftereffects not so much, never feel like this after a cold plate! Ah prob had it too late as well

Reggie. · 04-02-2018 10:55AM

Mooooo wrote: »

Like a lot of takeaway stuff the eating of it is grand the aftereffects not so much, never feel like this after a cold plate! Ah prob had it too late as well

When I get tired I crave that stuff

Buford T. Justice XIX · 04-02-2018 12:25PM

wexie wrote: »

The lighting in here sucks

I didn't know if this should go here or the guntering thread:)

mahoney_j · 04-02-2018 08:48PM

Dams have burst here 12 cows calved since 3 am this ,over 11.5% of herd in one day .not jinxing myself by saying any more .hugely fulfilling day even tho I’m fooked now .milkers out today and smashing day weather wise

Mooooo · 04-02-2018 10:11PM

First set of twins here, 2 heifers at least

Keepgrowing · 05-02-2018 10:13AM

We're off. A few days late but 299 to go

Mooooo · 05-02-2018 10:51AM

What is yer routine with cows that have twins? A shot of oxytocin after calving to ensure they clean and encourage them to drink as much water as they can. I used to give a bottle of calciject under the skin but only do that to high yielders or ones that look a bit shaky now as apparently giving it to them if they don't need it could cause them to get milk fever a few days later?

Timmaay · 05-02-2018 11:43AM

Mooooo wrote: »

What is yer routine with cows that have twins? A shot of oxytocin after calving to ensure they clean and encourage them to drink as much water as they can. I used to give a bottle of calciject under the skin but only do that to high yielders or ones that look a bit shaky now as apparently giving it to them if they don't need it could cause them to get milk fever a few days later?

Giving one shot oxytocin to nearly every heifer here, and any cow with twins, slow to clean or any other problems.

mahoney_j · 05-02-2018 11:54AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Giving one shot oxytocin to nearly every heifer here, and any cow with twins, slow to clean or any other problems.

No drugs unless needed just feed the ****e out of them

jaymla627 · 05-02-2018 12:25PM

Boldi armour heifer just after landing, has gorgeous markings

Mooooo · 05-02-2018 12:40PM

Afaik oxytocin must be given within 2 hours to have an effect for helping the cleaning. Hence the reason I give to cows after having twins. Don't give to anything else unless a very hard calving but calves landing an average of 7 days early means there are few of them thank god

Buford T. Justice XIX · 05-02-2018 01:09PM

I see North Cork, Fealesbridge and Headleysbridge Co-ops have merged. That leaves just Newtownsandes on its own without processing facilities.

boggerman1 · 05-02-2018 01:15PM

Cows out here today.great to see them munching away.

kowtow · 05-02-2018 02:06PM

Does anyone know where parlour top (the red / green / dust) that goes on parlour floors is stocked in Munster?

I know it comes from CCS in Dublin but I only need 7 or 8 bags of it and it can't be worth sending down on a pallet or running all the way up there for it?

darragh_haven · 05-02-2018 02:29PM

kowtow wrote: »

Does anyone know where parlour top (the red / green / dust) that goes on parlour floors is stocked in Munster?

I know it comes from CCS in Dublin but I only need 7 or 8 bags of it and it can't be worth sending down on a pallet or running all the way up there for it?

I'm going to them on Wednesday collecting other stuff, on my way down from the North. Shur I throw a few bags on for ya

COD

cosatron · 05-02-2018 03:15PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Boldi armour heifer just after landing, has gorgeous markings

when you get a chance will ye connect the water trough:D

Injuryprone · 05-02-2018 06:36PM

kowtow wrote: »

Does anyone know where parlour top (the red / green / dust) that goes on parlour floors is stocked in Munster?

I know it comes from CCS in Dublin but I only need 7 or 8 bags of it and it can't be worth sending down on a pallet or running all the way up there for it?

CCS are down in centre park road in cork city as well are they?

GrasstoMilk · 05-02-2018 06:47PM

Anyone know the price per acre of land just for 2 cuts of silage?
Fertiliser it yourself

kevthegaff · 05-02-2018 07:03PM

kowtow wrote: »

Does anyone know where parlour top (the red / green / dust) that goes on parlour floors is stocked in Munster?

I know it comes from CCS in Dublin but I only need 7 or 8 bags of it and it can't be worth sending down on a pallet or running all the way up there for it?

Have ten bags left, have a customer tho

Gawddawggonnit · 05-02-2018 07:23PM

Anyone know suppliers of these disinfection units?
They need to be able to do a 4m truck/trailer including the roof.

freedominacup · 05-02-2018 07:29PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Anyone know suppliers of these disinfection units?
They need to be able to do a 4m truck/trailer including the roof.

I'll ask the neighbours.

Gawddawggonnit · 05-02-2018 07:32PM

freedominacup wrote: »

I'll ask the neighbours.

Thanks.
It needs to be fully automated and be able to do a 4m artic trailer.

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