Dairy chit chat II

K.G.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

Possible locations for dawg holidays this year?

K.G.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

The one in the shetland islands and the one in algeria are interesting and the amount in ireland suggests its not ports.given previous form id say its places where water qaulity has fallen or

Timmaay

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

16k litres down the drain.

No matter how simple and foolproof the system there’s always a fcuktard that’ll prove it fallible...

"The two things that will get ya fired instantly, either letting an antibiotic cow into the tank, or forgetting to turn on the tank". That above line gets uttered to every single milker on their 1st day here always ha.

Brown Podzol

Dead zones caused by fert and nutrient runoff.

Keepgrowing

Timmaay wrote: »

"The two things that will get ya fired instantly, either letting an antibiotic cow into the tank, or forgetting to turn on the tank". That above line gets uttered to every single milker on their 1st day here always ha.

Here it's "if you allow in antibiotics or break something tell us"
Being a bad time keeper is a sackable offence here. 2 part timer people to help at weekends met their end this morning. 2nd Sunday in a row to be 20 minutes late.

alps

Is there any sence in having to bvd test a dead calf from a dam who had been tested clear at birth?

whelan2

alps wrote: »

Is there any sence in having to bvd test a dead calf from a dam who had been tested clear at birth?

She could have come in contact with a positive somehow in her pregnancy

alps

whelan2 wrote: »

She could have come in contact with a positive somehow in her pregnancy

She could have....but that calf is now dead...thats all the result would ask us to do...have it put down..

Mooooo

alps wrote: »

She could have....but that calf is now dead...thats all the result would ask us to do...have it put down..

They have to be tagged anyway, even with abortions now you must tag the foetus as the lab don't test for bvd

whelan2

Had a cow with milk fever this evening, it's years since I had it in a spring calver, really good milker, only dry 5 weeks. She broke out yesterday and went about a mile up the fields, I am putting it down to the stress of yesterday. She calved fine last night and I milked her this morning and she was fine. All cows are cleaning fine and I am doing the same as I do every year. Gave her a bottle and a half in the vein and another bottle and a half under the skin. Was lucky I noticed her at all, she's up now.

Gawddawggonnit

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Here it's "if you allow in antibiotics or break something tell us"
Being a bad time keeper is a sackable offence here. 2 part timer people to help at weekends met their end this morning. 2nd Sunday in a row to be 20 minutes late.

+100.

Nothing to add to that.

Gawddawggonnit

Mooooo wrote: »

For tank or individual cows? Coops use delvo here so would use that for tank, charm test be ok for cows

Tank.
Thus Delvo.

mf240

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

Is it a representation of where European politicians thought Dublin was on a map?

Gawddawggonnit

Brown Podzol wrote: »

Dead zones caused by fert and nutrient runoff.

Bingo.

However Waffle nailed it.
The link he posted makes an excellent read.

mahoney_j

alps wrote: »

She could have....but that calf is now dead...thats all the result would ask us to do...have it put down..

Excellent point

Say my name

alps wrote: »

Is there any sence in having to bvd test a dead calf from a dam who had been tested clear at birth?

I'd say it's just to use for the departments own map of the country and to see if there's a trend in an area.

Otherwise who knows there could be herds out there with a lot of still borns going under the radar.

Waffletraktor

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Bingo.

However Waffle nailed it.
The link he posted makes an excellent read.

I cheated doing a reverse search on the image though.

Reggie.

Waffletraktor wrote: »

I cheated doing a reverse search on the image though.

There's a special place in hell for you

Brown Podzol

Waffletraktor wrote: »

I cheated doing a reverse search on the image though.

You'd do anything for a pint, I did the same.

Gawddawggonnit

Brown Podzol wrote: »

You'd do anything for a pint, I did the same.

Basterds!!!


Either way I owe Waffle a pint...Draycotts Black?

Anyone put forth a reason why?
Daughter reckons it may have to do with the fat of the land. N. Europe dairy...S Europe plant based fats?

kevthegaff

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Basterds!!!


Either way I owe Waffle a pint...Draycotts Black?

Anyone put forth a reason why?
Daughter reckons it may have to do with the fat of the land. N. Europe dairy...S Europe plant based fats?

Is the pollution at all the major tributaries. Population/intensive ag

Timmaay

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Basterds!!!


Either way I owe Waffle a pint...Draycotts Black?

Anyone put forth a reason why?
Daughter reckons it may have to do with the fat of the land. N. Europe dairy...S Europe plant based fats?

Is there that much a difference in dairy consumption between northern and southern Europe?

Say my name

If you do a bit more digging though there's no dead zones per se around Ireland.
The red dots around Ireland are eutrophic.
Ok it's not perfect but it has been occurring for a long time. The worst zone is the Baltic sea with a shallow basin and increasing water temperatures with an increase in nutrients since the fifties which actually has a dead zone and increasing.

If the map showed Greece you'd see red dots all around the country.
Do Greece have a big dairy industry?

Say my name

Just looking at the jars this morning.

Most over/up to 20 litres bar the heifers.
You cannot beat spring grass.

Mooooo

Say my name wrote: »

Just looking at the jars this morning.

Most over 20 litres bar the heifers.
You cannot beat spring grass.

Ah you can, maybe not as cost effectively, but nutrionally

Say my name

Mooooo wrote: »

Ah you can, maybe not as cost effectively, but nutrionally

This is what I'm wondering about too.

So a bit of an observation last year I noticed the cows going up in milk when they were grazing a few fields that got cal lime. Same covers as others but just a few litres increase when on these.
So that led me into experimenting with diluted seawater on a paddock. Grass grew well very dark colour. Cow's went in and litres went up a bit compared to previous paddocks with same cover.

So the field they're on now was one where they dropped yield a bit compared to others even with same cover last year. So I got 2t/cal lime spread last autumn. 2t/basalt spread in November and 5litres seawater/acre diluted 20:1 sprayed in December and half bag urea in Jan.
Cow's are milking very well on it this year so far. Early days but looks promising.

I'm gradually coming around to whatever minerals you have in the ground you'll have in the grass. Obviously I'm chancing my arm but it keeps it interesting.

atlantic mist

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Virtual pint for anyone who explains what the red dots signify.

Extra pint if you can explain the difference between Northern Europe and Southern Europe...

looks very similar to where asthma suffers are most common, oxygen reduced both on land and sea it appears

http://www.globalasthmareport.org/burden/burden.php

Say my name

atlantic mist wrote: »

looks very similar to where asthma suffers are most common, oxygen reduced both on land and sea it appears

http://www.globalasthmareport.org/burden/burden.php

Asthma is linked to the sins of the parents though no?
That is the antibiotic or chemical use of both the father during time of conception and the mother during time of gestation.
Throw in increased caesarians and a reduced microbriome coming from the mother means a weakened immunity for the youngster.

whelan2

Put new bulbs and starters in lights in milking parlour today. Total cost €50. Unreal difference .

Gawddawggonnit

atlantic mist wrote: »

looks very similar to where asthma suffers are most common, oxygen reduced both on land and sea it appears

http://www.globalasthmareport.org/burden/burden.php

That’s stretching it a bit!

I wonder if you superimposed veganism, autism and even crystal meth use, could you find correlation?


N. Europe also has a high concentration of pigs and poultry...dairy farmers can be tetchy.:)