Match preview & thread: FRA vs IRE (Sat Feb 3, 1645)

coco0981 · 03-02-2018 09:01PM

Was anyone else worried about the way James Ryan carried the ball into contact? Very low leading with his head, kept thinking he was going to take a big shot direct to his head

Utah_Saint · 03-02-2018 09:03PM

Will anything happen to France around their dodgy HIA calls?

Bridge93 · 03-02-2018 09:04PM

On tv3, don’t know how they were as I watched on bbc but I flicked across at halftime at Matt Williams is genuinely awful. Talking about that young outhalf, he made a fair point that he probably wasn’t physically ready for international rugby but used a laughably poor example to prove it with the knee clash with Aki. That would’ve kept anyone down

Guy:Incognito · 03-02-2018 09:06PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Will anything happen to France around their dodgy HIA calls?

What can happen? The folk in charge contact the player and he says he got a bang in the head, then what do they say "you're a liar and were banning you"?

Stheno · 03-02-2018 09:06PM

Are that French side likely to trouble England?

Burkie1203 · 03-02-2018 09:07PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Will anything happen to France around their dodgy HIA calls?

Nope. Very hard to prove

Jalibert has a PCL injury apparently

Utah_Saint · 03-02-2018 09:07PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Will anything happen to France around their dodgy HIA calls?

What can happen? The folk in charge contact the player and he says he got a bang in the head, then what do they say "you're a liar and were banning you"?

So a the player calls it? I thought it was a match doctor who is on France payroll

ScrubsfanChris · 03-02-2018 09:09PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Will anything happen to France around their dodgy HIA calls?

Nothing came of Wales' dirty shenanigans last November so don't expect to see anything happen this time.

Stheno · 03-02-2018 09:10PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

So a the player calls it? I thought it was a match doctor who is on France payroll

Almost immediately after Nigel spoke to the injured player he Nigel was pointing at his own head and looking puzzled

Bridge93 · 03-02-2018 09:11PM

The first one there’s a chance he got a head bang given the angle he was at. But the second is actually laughable. Total disgrace

Utah_Saint · 03-02-2018 09:12PM

Rewatching the last 5 mins. 41 phases was unreal. We were poor but that those 41 phases are what championship winning teams do.

digzy · 03-02-2018 09:14PM

Given all the carry on with ‘pods’ and s &c and gps etc... it’s great to see the unrestrained joy on our players faces as they celebrated what must be the greatest dg ever.

robyntmorton · 03-02-2018 09:14PM

Stheno wrote: »

Almost immediately after Nigel spoke to the injured player he Nigel was pointing at his own head and looking puzzled

I’d need to watch it back, but it did look like Nigel leading with asking about the head, the French medic saying knee, and then the confusion about what the problem was, probably compounded by France suddenly realising that a HIA meant a free sub. The whole thing was a mess and a distraction, but needs to be looked at by World Rugby as to procedure.

Utah_Saint · 03-02-2018 09:17PM

robyntmorton wrote: »

Stheno wrote: »

Almost immediately after Nigel spoke to the injured player he Nigel was pointing at his own head and looking puzzled

I’d need to watch it back, but it did look like Nigel leading with asking about the head, the French medic saying knee, and then the confusion about what the problem was, probably compounded by France suddenly realising that a HIA meant a free sub. The whole thing was a mess and a distraction, but needs to be looked at by World Rugby as to procedure.

As you mentioned, it becomes a free sub option for teams. Needs reviewed.

Kiith · 03-02-2018 09:20PM

Apparently it was the match doctor that called them HIA, rather then the French doctor. They were still utterly ridiculous calls, but change the narrative slightly. (or so i read...could be utter bollox).

Either way, **** yeah we won!!

Beechwoodspark · 03-02-2018 09:21PM

Bridge93 wrote: »

Good defensively apart from the try. France excellent defensively too.

Both pretty poor in attack. We were cruising, it should never have come down to that but a win is a win and winning away is very difficult to do. We’ll need to add more in attack or we won’t be winning in London.

Some poor performances and some very positive ones.

A lot of crap will be posted so I’ll leave it at that. Serious bottle from Sexton at the end and accuracy to keep the ball alive for 40 phases in those conditions

The HIA stuff was farcical. France have history in this and I hope it’s investigated further. Using a protocol that’s in place to prevent horrendous long term injuries to basically cheat is disgusting

Owens was poor today in my view. Gets too caught up in his own interpretations of things instead of just refereeing by the rules. Very inconsistent too. One that stood out was Aki getting done for not rolling away in the first half then in that last passage of play one of the french lads was given nearly 10 seconds to move himself from the wrong side

Yep. It seemed as if there was no way he was going to ping France at the end. Not on.

Beechwoodspark · 03-02-2018 09:22PM

Kiith wrote: »

Apparently it was the match doctor that called them HIA, rather then the French doctor. They were still utterly ridiculous calls, but change the narrative slightly. (or so i read...could be utter bollox).

Either way, **** yeah we won!!

But is it not based on what the player reports to him? The player says he wants one, I think. The doc has to take that very seriously.

Utah_Saint · 03-02-2018 09:23PM

Kiith wrote: »

Apparently it was the match doctor that called them HIA, rather then the French doctor. They were still utterly ridiculous calls, but change the narrative slightly.

Yeah, just watched it again. Owens says the match doctor called it. He has to believe the official medical professional

Dave_The_Sheep · 03-02-2018 09:24PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Yep they choked yet again.

adox wrote: »

Capitulating here.

Go on there so.

seanin4711 · 03-02-2018 09:24PM

jammy

Didactic Ninja · 03-02-2018 09:27PM

digzy wrote: »

Given all the carry on with ‘pods’ and s &c and gps etc... it’s great to see the unrestrained joy on our players faces as they celebrated what must be the greatest dg ever.

mitchell hunt had the best dg ever

Asus X540L · 03-02-2018 09:31PM

Guess you can't argue with stats. 68% possession and territory is phenomenal against France in Paris

Asus X540L · 03-02-2018 09:32PM

digzy wrote: »

Given all the carry on with ‘pods’ and s &c and gps etc... it’s great to see the unrestrained joy on our players faces as they celebrated what must be the greatest dg ever.

That was the lads piling all over David O'Leary at Italia'90 all over again.

thebaz · 03-02-2018 09:32PM

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Rewatching the last 5 mins. 41 phases was unreal. We were poor but that those 41 phases are what championship winning teams do.

reminded me of when the All Blacks turned us over in the last play 3 years ago - great to see the progress Joe has made with this team - we can now do that to other teams.

I was wrong - again - James Ryan is a serious talent - stepped up big time today - if it wasn't for Johnny magic he would have been my motm - not bad going for first 6 nations game

shootermacg · 03-02-2018 09:32PM

Leavy immense, great all round performance, say hello to Ireland's new 7 for the foreseeable future!

CJ might not have made yards, but what a bloody performance! Blown away with that work rate, think he was actually in tears after the game.

Ryan was ****ed after 60, he had nothing left, all that adrenaline hit him like a hammer.

kevingonewest · 03-02-2018 09:33PM

NollagShona wrote: »

That was fcuking epic! 41 phases!

By about phase 33 I knew I was watching easily the finest rugby of the day (Wales v Scotland was poor, like from a sub-division with one just a lot worse than the other). I also knew we would still lose, gallantly, having been just the better team almost all match & then... the legend that is Jonny is confirmed for all to see, long live the Legend.

irishbucsfan · 03-02-2018 09:34PM

Asus X540L wrote: »

Guess you can't argue with stats.

Well I mean you can. There's absolutely no way we should have needed an 80th minute drop goal to win a game against a French side in disarray who were incapable of getting out of their own half or holding on to possession. 68% possession and 0 line breaks says a lot.

But the glorious manner of the victory offsets that a bit. If he hadn't been quite as toothless as we were then we wouldn't have seen the 40 phases!

Asus X540L · 03-02-2018 09:37PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Well I mean you can. There's absolutely no way we should have needed an 80th minute drop goal to win a game against a French side in disarray who were incapable of getting out of their own half or holding on to possession. 68% possession and 0 line breaks says a lot.

But the glorious manner of the victory offsets that a bit. If he hadn't been quite as toothless as we were then we wouldn't have seen the 40 phases!

Stockdale was poor under the high ball and in defense. Earlsie wasn't great either.
Those two could be facing the axe. Then again who'd replace them?

sydthebeat · 03-02-2018 09:37PM

No line breaks for so much possession is an indictment on the team, and by proxy the coaching.

Structure is all and good, and got us the win, but with so much possession and territory we can and should afford to take risks.

jack01986 · 03-02-2018 09:37PM

Proper heart in mouth stuff! Brilliant drop goal to finish it off.

Match preview & thread: FRA vs IRE (Sat Feb 3, 1645)

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