Jordan Peterson interview on C4

conorhal wrote: »

Does he run? Is he cowed by the mob?
No, when they take his mic, he merely SHOUTS his refusal to be silenced. It's an electrifying moment of defiance from the unlikeliest of hero's and the video that made him both a famous and important voice against the tyranny of censorship.



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Jaysus you'd think he saved the world from alien invasion.
It's a college.
He's protesting/arguing against college rules and regulations.
This is what ye are calling censorship, cultural marxism destroying society.
It's pathetic.
If his fanboys experienced one fraction of the discrimination, fear and silencing that minorities face every day they would have something to cry about. So ironic they call the other side snowflakes.

"Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low." Wallace Sayre.

Brian? wrote: »

How about alpha-females?

Alpha females don't have time for third wave feminism.they're too busy taking care of business to listen to that nonesense.

Brian? wrote: »

I was a bad joke.

You were a bad joke?

Brian? wrote: »

I don't, of course. But then I don't believe that Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot etc. were socialists either. Authoritarianism is an anathema to pure socialism. Only the worker can free them-self, freedom cannot be granted by a central authority.

I would completely agree that freedom cannot be granted by a central authority but this belief is not something that I had previously associated with socialism.

If as you describe, the worker frees themself then for this freedom to be actual they must therefore be free to choose whether or not to participate in social and communal structures and if their freedom is not granted by a central authority it follows that they are not coerced into social and communal interactions by a central authority and that all interaction between individuals is on a purely voluntary basis.

Is this an accurate description of your definition of pure socialism?

tritium wrote: »

Because you have the inside track on what those people have experienced?


Or are you just subscribing to that arrogant privilege argument like it’s religious dogma?

Gas the same people who argue you shouldn't even use the preferred pronoun for a trans person or let them go to the toilet claim there is no discrimination against them.

Imagine being called the wrong gender all the time or having to hold in your pee all day because just going to the toilet is an ordeal.

Religious dogma? what you on about.

20Cent wrote: »

Gas the same people who argue you shouldn't even use the preferred pronoun for a trans person or let them go to the toilet claim there is no discrimination against them.

Imagine being called the wrong gender all the time or having to hold in your pee all day because just going to the toilet is an ordeal.

Religious dogma? what you on about.

Except that’s not remotely what I claimed, was it?

Tell me, what discrimination or social challenges do you think white males might face? Young men might face? Since you’ve indicated white privilege is a thing, explain to me, is it global? Does it exist in Zimbabwe? Saudi Arabia? How does it differ from majority privilege? How does it differ in Ireland, with a very limited history of non-white interaction and the US with a very different history and demographic?

Royce Stocky Stage wrote: »

Omg...I just googled and...
100 rules!

Sounds like life advice for an 'American Psycho'

Own a handcrafted shotgun. It’s a beautiful thing.

Desserts are for women. Order one and pretend you don’t mind that she’s eating yours.

Revenge can be a good way of getting over anger.

Drink outdoors. And during the day. And sometimes by yourself.

Date women outside your social set. You’ll be surprised.

No-one cares if you are offended, so stop it.

Hookers aren’t cool, but remember, the free ones are a lot more expensive.

You can get away with a lot more if you’re the one buying the drinks

does the last one sound a bit 'rapey' to anyone else?!!

benjamin d wrote: »

Most "real" feminists recognise that the word is distorted beyond recognition nowadays. I would like to call myself a feminist. My girlfriend, an educated and clever woman, rails against the term as it is currently applied. Almost every rational woman I have heard discuss this in real life agrees that the word feminist has been utterly ruined by the Tumblr and Twitter charlatans who insist that the patriarchy and white male privilege are singularly responsible for all the world's ills. Any rational human can see that the word feminist has been hijacked and completely bastardised for a nefarious agenda. It's time for true feminists to abandon the label for something else IMO.

I await retribution.

3rd wave is /insert term of ridicule/. 2nd wave has won the war albeit with a handful of battles in the West but with a lot more it could do elsewhere in the world. I don't blame women for wanting advocacy groups but that's not a synonym for equality- I say it's egalitarianism+narcissism - equality for all... but me first.

I don't know you and don't aim this at you but whenever I hear men declare themselves feminists (in the name of to declaring equality credentials) smacks (to me) of self hatred from decades of brainwashing. Some very smart people are feminists but then again JP, and a lot of other highly intelligent people immersed in the subject denounce feminism as it exists today as a religion bent on indoctrination and self perpetuation.

Meanwhile the vast majority of homeless are men, the vast majority of suicides are boys, the vast majority of war deaths are men, the vast majority of child custody goes to women, men lead shorter live, and boys are doing increasingly worse in all levels of education but no one seems to care... which patriarchy is to blame for, apparently.

The upshot is that boys are the ones who need a voice today (and not just in the name of destruction of the patriarchy).

Here's an extensive interview between JP and 2nd wave feminist Camille Paglia - spoiler: they agree on almost everything.

Forget the gender politics boys and girls. We need to team up and fight the real fight. Don't let the establishment divide and rule.



https://www.irishtimes.com/business/markets/report-says-gap-between-ceo-pay-and-irish-worker-is-widening-1.3356562

Cilocnadal wrote: »

I agree with Jordan's point that most women are generally unhappy when they are in relationships with weak men they can easily dominate. In my opinion most women are happier in relationships with strong men who are comfortable taking charge. Women are happiest with a man they can trust to take charge. In my opinion.

I find it amusing that Cathy got so defensive on this point, it makes me wonder if she bosses and bullies her hsband around.

If nothing else, your ability to think up new usernames on a daily basis is impressive.