Dairy chit chat II

Reggie. · 20-01-2018 02:07PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Become a Legionnaire...:)

That's def too much hardship

alps · 20-01-2018 02:35PM

Do they have cows in Legioneria?...

Gawddawggonnit · 20-01-2018 02:57PM

alps wrote: »

Do they have cows in Legioneria?...

Doubtful.

But you could fry an egg on the stones...if you had an egg...

(Harp. Early 80s ?)

Gawddawggonnit · 20-01-2018 03:06PM

Mooooo wrote: »

It's this recycling of debt with the Dutch, of im not mistaken, they have so much if they failed the banks would go with them

€1/litre for nitrate/phosphate and Rabobank jump on the bandwagon with ‘attractive’ rates...

Red rag to a bull in the face of the Commission.
Jeez, the trouble and expense the Dutch have to go to. So much cheaper and easier to fire it over a ditch...less ‘air miles’ also ha.

kowtow · 20-01-2018 03:17PM

I wonder to what extent the overhang of skim powder has a particular impact on butter production, as opposed to other products.

You can't make butter without skim; so a depressed skim market makes butter less profitable at any given price than it would be in a market where SMP was trading normally. It follows that processors will be quicker to stop making butter than they would otherwise be whilst the intervention stocks are weighing on the market. As a consequence butter would need to price higher to maintain the incentive to produce - which might explain some of last years rise and the reported shortage at a time when butter was coming back into vogue.

Unintended consequences of regulatory actions, as usual.

Gawddawggonnit · 20-01-2018 03:48PM

kowtow wrote: »

I wonder to what extent the overhang of skim powder has a particular impact on butter production, as opposed to other products.

You can't make butter without skim; so a depressed skim market makes butter less profitable at any given price than it would be in a market where SMP was trading normally. It follows that processors will be quicker to stop making butter than they would otherwise be whilst the intervention stocks are weighing on the market. As a consequence butter would need to price higher to maintain the incentive to produce - which might explain some of last years rise and the reported shortage at a time when butter was coming back into vogue.

Unintended consequences of regulatory actions, as usual.

Sure it had to affect the market in some way. To what extent?

There’s another article from the Eu Comm where their objective is a price of 27/28cpl for the foreseeable. I’ll post it if I can find it. When milk was that price here it was circa 24cpl with you. Not good.

I see you traded some bitcoin for a new tractor. Nice. Well wear.

kevthegaff · 20-01-2018 05:59PM

At last..

Mooooo · 20-01-2018 06:10PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At last..

Best o luck with it

kowtow · 20-01-2018 06:18PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At last..

Ouch. Still taking old concrete out of mine and barely three weeks before the first calves due....

That looks great, put up some more picks & best of luck with it..

mahoney_j · 20-01-2018 06:27PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At last..

Fine looking job Kev ,best of luck with it

Reggie. · 20-01-2018 06:36PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At last..

Shiney

whelan2 · 20-01-2018 06:37PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At last..

How many units? Best of luck

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-01-2018 06:50PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

At last..

Well wear, Kev.

You won't know yourself this spring.

kevthegaff · 20-01-2018 07:04PM

whelan2 wrote:

How many units? Best of luck

20 unit, all in a 45yr old shed, dairy still looks a wreck! I'd say bord bia got a drop the s other day walking from dairy to parlour. how long would ye milk seven rows out of curiosity?

Reggie. · 20-01-2018 07:12PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

20 unit, all in a 45yr old shed, dairy still looks a wreck! I'd say bord bia got a drop the s other day walking from dairy to parlour. how long would ye milk seven rows out of curiosity?

Are ya dirting it in the morning

whelan2 · 20-01-2018 07:38PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

20 unit, all in a 45yr old shed, dairy still looks a wreck! I'd say bord bia got a drop the s other day walking from dairy to parlour. how long would ye milk seven rows out of curiosity?

Probably an hour to milk 7rows in 15 unit parlour. Then wash

kevthegaff · 20-01-2018 09:46PM

Reggie. wrote:

Are ya dirting it in the morning

Have no power washer going so it will be, milking 2 cows atm

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-01-2018 09:59PM

For those on Twitter, #februdairy seems to be getting up vegans noses atm. Quite funny after they appropriated January for their own uses.

jaymla627 · 20-01-2018 11:15PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

For those on Twitter, #februdairy seems to be getting up vegans noses atm. Quite funny after they appropriated January for their own uses.

The whole vegan thing falls down when you realise it's pretty much impossible to live in modern life without using products that contain animals derivatives, it's a bit hipocritically to be raving about how's it's disgusting to eat meat/dairy while the same time wearing a leather belt what's the difference

Waffletraktor · 20-01-2018 11:17PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

The whole vegan thing falls down when you realise it's pretty much impossible to live in modern life without using products that contain animals derivatives, it's a bit hipocritically to be raving about how's it's disgusting to eat meat/dairy while the same time wearing a leather belt what's the difference

Much the same with the required 12 months of summer diet .

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-01-2018 11:42PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

The whole vegan thing falls down when you realise it's pretty much impossible to live in modern life without using products that contain animals derivatives, it's a bit hipocritically to be raving about how's it's disgusting to eat meat/dairy while the same time wearing a leather belt what's the difference

Thou shalt not question their purity.

I have no problem with vegans, live and let live and all that, but some of the farcical lies they promote as fact are unbelievable.

There is a pic of a calf in a dehorning crate with a farmer about to dehorn the calf. The action read that the farmer is about to kill the calf with a bolt gun. Or the pic of an Arla processing factory where the caption is a huge milk farm. They have zero knowledge and even less desire for that knowledge.

jaymla627 · 20-01-2018 11:58PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Thou shalt not question their purity.

I have no problem with vegans, live and let live and all that, but some of the farcical lies they promote as fact are unbelievable.

There is a pic of a calf in a dehorning crate with a farmer about to dehorn the calf. The action read that the farmer is about to kill the calf with a bolt gun. Or the pic of an Arla processing factory where the caption is a huge milk farm. They have zero knowledge and even less desire for that knowledge.

Alot of vegans just need the sense of self-rightness that their life choice brings, can't understand farmers engaging with them at all to be honest, their like children looking for a reaction, and everytime we confront them they get off on it, ignore them and they'll pretty quickly get sick of banging their drums when they have no one to argue with, it's laughable to think veganism is rife and growing into becoming mainstream given the obesity epidemic that's rife in the western world

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-01-2018 12:12AM

Just to change the subject, a nice labour saving contraption in the pic.
https://twitter.com/PhilipMetcalfe1/status/954794195058921472

K.G. · 21-01-2018 08:23AM

Any of you use a nice simple 3 way mix in the parlour.

freedominacup · 21-01-2018 09:40AM

K.G. wrote: »

Any of you use a nice simple 3 way mix in the parlour.

It's hard to formulate a ration to cover all the bases with only three ingredients. Using soya, maize, barley and hulls here. 5% molasses for a bit of binding also. These ingredients all the time but vary the percentages depending on the makeup of the rest of the diet. More soya indoors, more hulls at grass. Maize and barley usually makeup 60-70% of the blend.

Gawddawggonnit · 21-01-2018 11:10AM

freedominacup wrote: »

It's hard to formulate a ration to cover all the bases with only three ingredients. Using soya, maize, barley and hulls here. 5% molasses for a bit of binding also. These ingredients all the time but vary the percentages depending on the makeup of the rest of the diet. More soya indoors, more hulls at grass. Maize and barley usually makeup 60-70% of the blend.

I’d be inclined to swop out barley for triticale or even wheat. For some reason, which is above my pay grade to explain, they work better with maize. Triticale is the same price as barley but is a bitch for ergot. Lost two cows to it last year and swopped to barley. Immediate drop of nearly 2litres....maybe someone would know why?

mf240 · 21-01-2018 11:16AM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Alot of vegans just need the sense of self-rightness that their life choice brings, can't understand farmers engaging with them at all to be honest, their like children looking for a reaction, and everytime we confront them they get off on it, ignore them and they'll pretty quickly get sick of banging their drums when they have no one to argue with, it's laughable to think veganism is rife and growing into becoming mainstream given the obesity epidemic that's rife in the western world

Just ignore them is best. Although I often wondered if a dog got knocked down and killed by an artic lorry that was transporting vegan meals, would those ready meals still be vegan friendly or would they have to through them out?

Mooooo · 21-01-2018 01:45PM

Up in limerick for the match and game put off from 1 to 4. Pints last night not feeling the smartest idea now. Plenty water in fields on the way up. First cow calved this morning, aa heifer off a roll over cow

Mooooo · 21-01-2018 01:48PM

freedominacup wrote: »

It's hard to formulate a ration to cover all the bases with only three ingredients. Using soya, maize, barley and hulls here. 5% molasses for a bit of binding also. These ingredients all the time but vary the percentages depending on the makeup of the rest of the diet. More soya indoors, more hulls at grass. Maize and barley usually makeup 60-70% of the blend.

Would molasses cause it to stick on bin/ feeder hoppers if coarse?

freedominacup · 21-01-2018 02:06PM

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I’d be inclined to swop out barley for triticale or even wheat. For some reason, which is above my pay grade to explain, they work better with maize. Triticale is the same price as barley but is a bitch for ergot. Lost two cows to it last year and swopped to barley. Immediate drop of nearly 2litres....maybe someone would know why?

I'd prefer wheat but for some unfathomable reason the mill we are being supplied by doesn't have it available atm. Pita but I've tried a couple of other suppliers and wasn't happy with quality at all. We might go back to crimped wheat this year if cashflow allows it at the time. Also looking at cracked barley or wheat pitted with distillers draff.

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