Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

The_Kew_Tour · 08-01-2018 04:57PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

And yet the hate is actually coming from such people.

?

Irishmale0399 · 08-01-2018 05:07PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so if the problem is not illegals what difference will a hard border make? You need to make your mind up as to what you think the problem is.

The problem is very simple, the member states of the EU do not know who has entered and where exactly they are. Over three quarters of all refugees have no documents and major mistakes were made processing them on entering the EU. These mistakes are not to be reversed. All Ireland can do is either:

1. Hope England after Brexit closes its borders and starts correctly documenting/controlling the movement of asylum seekers within the UK.

2. Control the borders ourselves and put holding/clearing centers in place to hold asylum seekers until identity etc. is comfirmed. Likewise the government has to accept that the Islamic extremist problem is already in Ireland and it is stupid to try and deny it.

There is an awful habit of Irish people thinking we will be grand or it was a once off. That of course suits the government/cops....because they Gardai are streched to their limits as it stands without further stress on the system.

One question that still has to be answered:
How did Morei know that the house he was squatting in was empty and he would be undisturbed there?? There was a light which went on at night in the house and it was not exactly in a state of disrepair.
Also what did the gardai take out of the house once they had raided it and how did they know to raid it within an hour of the attacks. There are a lot holes in the list of events and the reasoning for those events.

ohnonotgmail · 08-01-2018 05:12PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

The problem is very simple, the member states of the EU do not know who has entered and where exactly they are. Over three quarters of all refugees have no documents and major mistakes were made processing them on entering the EU. These mistakes are not to be reversed. All Ireland can do is either:

1. Hope England after Brexit closes its borders and starts correctly documenting/controlling the movement of asylum seekers within the UK.

2. Control the borders ourselves and put holding/clearing centers in place to hold asylum seekers until identity etc. is comfirmed. Likewise the government has to accept that the Islamic extremist problem is already in Ireland and it is stupid to try and deny it.

There is an awful habit of Irish people thinking we will be grand or it was a once off. That of course suits the government/cops....because they Gardai are streched to their limits as it stands without further stress on the system.

One question that still has to be answered:
How did Morei know that the house he was squatting in was empty and he would be undisturbed there?? There was a light which went on at night in the house and it was not exactly in a state of disrepair.
Also what did the gardai take out of the house once they had raided it and how did they know to raid it within an hour of the attacks. There are a lot holes in the list of events and the reasoning for those events.

if you think the problem is simple then you dont understand it.

Irishmale0399 · 08-01-2018 05:32PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

if you think the problem is simple then you dont understand it.

The problem is very simple.....Merkels open door policy for all asylum seekers from Syria and Afganistan was the fcuk up. Then the EU made it worse by allowing these people to start moving within the EU before they were registered correctly or identified. This resulted in the case that a lot of young lads from Morocco, Egypt and Tunisia entered the EU claiming to be Syrian and have gone off the radar since or their fake identities have never been exposed.

The solution for the problem.....that aint so simple and that is the real problem we face today

And before you start making statements like you made....I suggest you leave the wee island you call home and come out to mainland Europe and try working with these people to integrat and educate them. The reality and what you read in the newspapers, CNN or the Discovery channel is very different and something us westerners will never really understand.

Ash.J.Williams · 08-01-2018 09:44PM

via4 wrote: »

There was nobody outside the courthouse were a polish man stabbed another polish man a few days ago.

what the f**k has that got to do with anything

backspin. · 08-01-2018 09:57PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

The problem is very simple.....Merkels open door policy for all asylum seekers from Syria and Afganistan was the fcuk up. Then the EU made it worse by allowing these people to start moving within the EU before they were registered correctly or identified. This resulted in the case that a lot of young lads from Morocco, Egypt and Tunisia entered the EU claiming to be Syrian and have gone off the radar since or their fake identities have never been exposed.

The solution for the problem.....that aint so simple and that is the real problem we face today

And before you start making statements like you made....I suggest you leave the wee island you call home and come out to mainland Europe and try working with these people to integrat and educate them. The reality and what you read in the newspapers, CNN or the Discovery channel is very different and something us westerners will never really understand.

And i seriously believe that Merkels opening of the door to all and sundry contributed to Brexit. The vote was close. It was all over the British media.

ArthurDayne · 08-01-2018 10:42PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

And before you start making statements like you made....I suggest you leave the wee island you call home and come out to mainland Europe and try working with these people to integrat and educate them. The reality and what you read in the newspapers, CNN or the Discovery channel is very different and something us westerners will never really understand.

I didn't want to reply without allowing you to clarify this. Who are you referring to above?

Kivaro · 09-01-2018 12:14PM

Fair play to the people of Dundalk when more than 1,000 people attended a candlelight vigil for Yosuke Sasaki in the town last night.

Hector Savage · 09-01-2018 02:22PM

Some awkward info leftists won't want to know

https://twitter.com/markhumphrys/status/950701342904999936

MonkeyTennis · 09-01-2018 02:24PM

That guy wouldnt know a fact if it hit him in his stupid face.

tayto lover · 09-01-2018 02:25PM

Kivaro wrote: »

Fair play to the people of Dundalk when more than 1,000 people attended a candlelight vigil for Yosuke Sasaki in the town last night.

I was there. It was very moving. I thought there were about 15/16 hundred there myself.

seachto7 · 09-01-2018 02:38PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

That guy wouldnt know a fact if it hit him in his stupid face.

Go on?

10000maniacs · 09-01-2018 02:55PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

The problem is very simple, the member states of the EU do not know who has entered and where exactly they are. Over three quarters of all refugees have no documents and major mistakes were made processing them on entering the EU. These mistakes are not to be reversed. All Ireland can do is either:

1. Hope England after Brexit closes its borders and starts correctly documenting/controlling the movement of asylum seekers within the UK.

2. Control the borders ourselves and put holding/clearing centers in place to hold asylum seekers until identity etc. is comfirmed. Likewise the government has to accept that the Islamic extremist problem is already in Ireland and it is stupid to try and deny it.

There is an awful habit of Irish people thinking we will be grand or it was a once off. That of course suits the government/cops....because they Gardai are streched to their limits as it stands without further stress on the system.

One question that still has to be answered:
How did Morei know that the house he was squatting in was empty and he would be undisturbed there?? There was a light which went on at night in the house and it was not exactly in a state of disrepair.
Also what did the gardai take out of the house once they had raided it and how did they know to raid it within an hour of the attacks. There are a lot holes in the list of events and the reasoning for those events.

It is truly annoying that the Irish media certainly swept this incident under the carpet.
There was a report on Morning Ireland a day after it happened. Basically they were reporting that there was no evidence of terrorism.
If it wasn't terrorism, what was it?
A migrant nervous breakdown incident.
I am cracking up here in Dundalk so I need to go on a stabbing spree targeting random people.

Professor Moriarty · 09-01-2018 03:06PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Some awkward info leftists won't want to know

https://twitter.com/markhumphrys/status/950701342904999936

This is where moderate Islam in Ireland should step up to the plate by not inviting extremists.

MonkeyTennis · 09-01-2018 03:09PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

It is truly annoying that the Irish media certainly swept this incident under the carpet.
There was a report on Morning Ireland a day after it happened. Basically they were reporting that there was no evidence of terrorism.
If it wasn't terrorism, what was it?
A migrant nervous breakdown incident.
I am cracking up here in Dundalk so I need to go on a stabbing spree targeting random people.

Is there any particular reason you dont accept the Gardai summation on this, you know, the people who interviewed him?

09-01-2018 03:14PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Is there any particular reason you dont accept the Gardai summation on this, you know, the people who interviewed him?

I can't imagine a reason to not trust everything the Gardai say.

expectationlost · 09-01-2018 04:00PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Is there any particular reason you dont accept the Gardai summation on this, you know, the people who interviewed him?

is this some reasons we don't believe the gardai?

10000maniacs · 09-01-2018 04:10PM

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Is there any particular reason you dont accept the Gardai summation on this, you know, the people who interviewed him?

I used to believe that. I also used to believe that they carried out 1,458,221 more breathalyzer tests than they actually did.
So no MonkeyTennis, I would be reluctant to accept that.

Billy86 · 09-01-2018 04:23PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

I used to believe that. I also used to believe that they carried out 1,458,221 more breathalyzer tests than they actually did.
So no MonkeyTennis, I would be reluctant to accept that.

If they said it was terrorism, would you be reluctant to believe that also?

expectationlost · 09-01-2018 04:28PM

Billy86 wrote: »

If they said it was terrorism, would you be reluctant to believe that also?

I would if i thought they were withholding information?

10000maniacs · 09-01-2018 04:31PM

Billy86 wrote: »

If they said it was terrorism, would you be reluctant to believe that also?

Frankly yes. but there was very little probing from the media with the Dundalk case which is the infuriating part.
When they have the Shinners on Morning Ireland they are probed with rubber gloves. Every second sentence is "Will you let me finish my point, you asked the question", but with this case, there was no probing whatsoever.
Nobody asked why did he carry out this act? What was his background? Did his family have a history of violence? Was he on Interpol's watch list?
What was his web browsing history?
RTE's crime correspondents should have been pestering the Gardaí looking for answers.
Still none the wiser.

Odhinn · 09-01-2018 04:55PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

This is where moderate Islam in Ireland should step up to the plate by not inviting extremists.

And we in turn will exile mark humphrys. No, no need to thank us, the pleasure is ours.

silverharp · 09-01-2018 05:23PM

Odhinn wrote: »

And we in turn will exile mark humphrys. No, no need to thank us, the pleasure is ours.

Why would you have a problem with Humphrys unless you are pro IRA and anti semitic?

Odhinn · 09-01-2018 05:24PM

silverharp wrote: »

Why would you have a problem with Humphrys unless you are pro IRA and anti semitic?

I take it thats humour.

silverharp · 09-01-2018 05:28PM

Odhinn wrote: »

I take it thats humour.

I follow his twitter account, my memory is if people attack him its because of those 2 positions, so which is it :pac:

Deise Vu · 09-01-2018 05:32PM

10000maniacs wrote: »

Frankly yes. but there was very little probing from the media with the Dundalk case which is the infuriating part.
When they have the Shinners on Morning Ireland they are probed with rubber gloves. Every second sentence is "Will you let me finish my point, you asked the question", but with this case, there was no probing whatsoever.
Nobody asked why did he carry out this act? What was his background? Did his family have a history of violence? Was he on Interpol's watch list?
What was his web browsing history?
RTE's crime correspondents should have been pestering the Gardaí looking for answers.
Still none the wiser.

The man in question has been charged with murder. Releasing a load of information / assumptions / conjecture is considered prejudicial to a fair trial in this country. It is not the USA where the DA and Defence carry out public media campaigns in support of their side of the argument. In this country the Guards could be done for contempt of court if they released anything other than bare facts - man died...man arrested... man charged sort of stuff.

You will just have to bide your time for that thing we call a trial.

Odhinn · 09-01-2018 05:32PM

silverharp wrote: »

I follow his twitter account, my memory is if people attack him its because of those 2 positions, so which is it :pac:

Well according to him, if you think about it, people only attack him because hes right and they're wrong. He's right, all right, if not nessecarily in the way he thinks.

Grayson · 09-01-2018 05:34PM

silverharp wrote: »

I follow his twitter account, my memory is if people attack him its because of those 2 positions, so which is it :pac:

how about option three?

Edited because I was a very naughty boy and won't be doing that again

silverharp · 09-01-2018 05:52PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Well according to him, if you think about it, people only attack him because hes right and they're wrong. He's right, all right, if not nessecarily in the way he thinks.

whats his worst position then? he is anti Trump, anti SF/IRA , pro Israel and anti Islamic extremism.

Odhinn · 09-01-2018 05:55PM

silverharp wrote: »

whats his worst position then? he is anti Trump, anti SF/IRA , pro Israel and anti Islamic extremism.

He's an arrogant far right fruit loop - a nobody really. He thinks israel is some bulwark against an islamic invasion - mad stuff.

Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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