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Marijuana Stocks, legalities for Irish Investors?

  • 04-01-2018 11:09am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭


    Does anyone know if your breaking any laws buy investing and taking profits in these stocks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Does anyone know if your breaking any laws buy investing and taking profits in these stocks?

    If its being traded on a legal exchange then you're not breaking any laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    If its being traded on a legal exchange then you're not breaking any laws.

    Even though it's illegal in Ireland to have marijuana it's ok to have money invested in a marijuana business. I'm just wondering will the revenue raise an eyebrow come tax time. Or as you say once it's on a legal exchange nothing they can say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Even though it's illegal in Ireland to have marijuana it's ok to have money invested in a marijuana business. I'm just wondering will the revenue raise an eyebrow come tax time. Or as you say once it's on a legal exchange nothing they can say.

    Look at it like investing in a Pharmaceutical company in the USA which is trading in normal medical drugs which have been banned in Europe or simply not authorised yet.

    Or even more simply food products. There are a whole list of food flavorings & colorants which are banned in Europe but the USA have no problems in using them in their products.

    They are trading in a product which if traded in Europe would be illegal but you wouldn't question this would you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Cheers didn't think of it like that, time to load the boat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Shauny2010


    I'd be interested to know what stocks you are looking at. I am wondering is there secondary companies that provide services like testing the quality or purity of the product that could be invested in rather than a direct supplier or manufacturer?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    I'd be interested to know what stocks you are looking at. I am wondering is there secondary companies that provide services like testing the quality or purity of the product that could be invested in rather than a direct supplier or manufacturer?

    Anything I seem to buy in Canada only goes one direction, canntrust has being doing great for me, sold off my other ones with profit maybe a bit to early but will look at buying back into more come the end of the month. Should be a steady up tick until July, australian pot stocks doubled yesterday https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-04/australian-pot-stocks-soar-after-government-relaxes-export-rules

    Pick the big ticket ones with patents, or cheap ones with potential, might buy some of friday night inc stock today or THC Biomed that lifted nearly 88% yesterday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Tenigate


    Does anyone know if your breaking any laws buy investing and taking profits in these stocks?

    Assuming by stocks you mean shares in companies rather than an inventory of marijuana, you should be fine. You can invest in weapons, nuclear power, etc , without being accused of having WMDs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Liking the look of some of those stocks drunkmonkey. Will do some more research tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    particularly with the recent legalisation in California - huge market there
    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    I'd be interested to know what stocks you are looking at. I am wondering is there secondary companies that provide services like testing the quality or purity of the product that could be invested in rather than a direct supplier or manufacturer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Shauny2010


    Liking the look of some of those stocks drunkmonkey. Will do some more research tonight.
    Dardania wrote: »
    particularly with the recent legalisation in California - huge market there

    Any chance we can share the research, as I'm lost as to where to start with this


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    Shauny2010 wrote: »
    Liking the look of some of those stocks drunkmonkey. Will do some more research tonight.
    Dardania wrote: »
    particularly with the recent legalisation in California - huge market there

    Any chance we can share the research, as I'm lost as to where to start with this
    The California article I just saw a few days ago: https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21733424-some-cities-plan-give-people-marijuana-convictions-priority-when-setting-up-legal 


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,490 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Pick the big ticket ones with patents, or cheap ones with potential, might buy some of friday night inc stock today or THC Biomed that lifted nearly 88% yesterday.
    Be wary of buying into a rise like that, especially a one-day rise like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Liking the look of some of those stocks drunkmonkey. Will do some more research tonight.

    Lucky you didn't jump in today there all getting hammered, must have a look tonight and see why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Victor wrote: »
    Be wary of buying into a rise like that, especially a one-day rise like that.

    Yea I sat it out, big correction happening. Friday night inc might be coming near a decent entry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    This might be what's after happening, sell the news isn't that what they say https://apnews.com/19f6bfec15a74733b40eaf0ff9162bfa


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    This might be what's after happening, sell the news isn't that what they say https://apnews.com/19f6bfec15a74733b40eaf0ff9162bfa

    Might be a good thing for investors. It will cause a pullback in the prices.
    But id expect this to be challenged a alot of certain states who dont want to see their billions in tax revenue disappear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It''s be interesting to see what happens with these..

    APH.CA
    VFF.CA
    ACB.CA
    WEED.CA
    CMED.CA
    T.LEAF

    All set to rebound 10% + shortly i'd bet. Just took a small position (420) in Friday Night...didn't want to miss the dip:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    It''s be interesting to see what happens with these..

    APH.CA
    VFF.CA
    ACB.CA
    WEED.CA
    CMED.CA
    T.LEAF

    All set to rebound 10% + shortly i'd bet. Just took a small position (420) in Friday Night...didn't want to miss the dip:)

    I see what you did there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    A lot them after recovering a good bit....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,411 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    The Horizons Medical Marijuana Life Sciences ETF might be a more safer strategy than going for a few individual pics, launched in April this year, current YTD return is 12.57%...

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/05/a-new-investor-high-the-first-etf-to-target-marijuana-stocks-launches.html

    https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/HMMJ:CN


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I was reading up on that don't know where I read it but it said it's being fueled by Hype and to give the ETF's a dodge. Not a great return compared to the stocks themselves. A lot of the stocks have give 200/400% returns over the last 6mts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2018/01/04/aurora-cannabis-accelerates-european-expansion-with-licensed-denmark-joint

    Worth a look tomorrow that's pretty big news and was probably held back with the US news, could be in for a jump, Europe's biggest pot farm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Put a limit order in on few Friday Night at 0.55, just caught the dip earlier this morning. Already up 12%. thanks drunkmonkey :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I'm not convinced by their business model don't be afraid to take profits, could be another rocky road today.
    Just sold off my BOI this morning so hoping to take a position in something today.
    Degiro isn't opening for me, wonder have we overloaded it with everyone in a rush for green gold:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Prezatch


    Put a limit order in on few Friday Night at 0.55, just caught the dip earlier this morning. Already up 12%. thanks drunkmonkey :)

    I'd be selling quick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Prezatch wrote: »
    I'd be selling quick!

    It's taken off, I was waiting for a dip on the dip. Not going to happen by the looks of it.
    Moose must be up 20% odd by now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭ct5amr2ig1nfhp


    Up up and away! I wish I had the balls not to sell early. ah well!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Up up and away! I wish I had the balls not to sell early. ah well!

    It's a crazy bubble but with an actual ramp up date set in July 2018 in Canada. People are looking for their Microsofts and Google's in Canada to get the steal on the global market, hence why the reluctance to sell early and cash out.
    After recreational begins around july there will be a lot of winners/losers/takeovers.
    Best analogy would be with the end of alcohol prohibition in the states.

    Budz is a company 'worth' $1.4Bn , no revenue, not producing anything. They're only asset is a trailer home which cost $1million and 265k in cash.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭badboyblast


    This might be what's after happening, sell the news isn't that what they say https://apnews.com/19f6bfec15a74733b40eaf0ff9162bfa

    Hi OP, I work for a Canadian company and travel there alot, I know they are pushing to have the same laws basically as Amsterdam this summer 2018 so I think there is some serious moves being made over and the Canadians are very liberal so I can see this getting the green light ( pardon the pun)

    Who would be the best provider for me to purchase some shares with here in Ireland for Canadian stocks?

    I have been looking at canopy growth corp, Aurora cannabis Inc and aphria Inc and they have been doing well with a steady increase .


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 liamo77


    Anybody invest in Bldv. Looking very cheap at the moment. Can only see an upside from here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    liamo77 wrote: »
    Anybody invest in Bldv. Looking very cheap at the moment. Can only see an upside from here.

    Blue Diamond Ventures?, yes looks very cheap. Huge volume 16mil odd, looks like an out and out gamble, still if it hit 4cent a share would be a nice return, can't see it happening though. Not something i'd buy into to, seems like a consulting company.

    Pick something actually bringing in revenue, good news out of Canntrust today. http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/CannTrust-Reports-Record-Revenue-for-Q4-and-FY-2017-1012724758

    Rethinking Friday Night Inc, I think it could blow revenues out of the water if your after a small entry on a cheap stock, will be a few weeks before we know if that happened.

    Most stocks listed here https://www.potnetwork.com/marijuana-stocks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Some free shares on the way for anyone holding or buying Friday night..
    www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/amp/news/190048
    1 infused mgf for every 4 Friday night held.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 Jamie66


    Some free shares on the way for anyone holding or buying Friday night..
    www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/amp/news/190048
    1 infused mgf for every 4 Friday night held.

    Hey drunkmonkey,

    I'm looking to invest in some cannabis shares next week, I'm looking primarily at Aurora, do you have anything invested with these?

    If so, did you invest in Frankfurt or Toronto? Wondering if the euro currency of Frankfurt makes that a clear winner?

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 owltrader


    Guys so which broker u have been using to trade Pot Stocks? Cheers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 owltrader


    Guys which broker do u recommend to trade Pot Stocks?


  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Skelet0n


    owltrader wrote: »
    Guys which broker do u recommend to trade Pot Stocks?

    Degreeno or interactive tokers are great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 owltrader


    Is there any group in Ireland online or Offline discussing it? about pics, penny pot stocks or something like? tks..


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 owltrader


    I don't know this 2 brokers? research but was uncuseefully ? any broker to trade Pot Stocks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    +1 for Degreeno, it beet dem udder brokers bad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Don't mind the hippies above.

    Degiro or Interactive Brokers

    This is probably the hypiest time to get in so don't bet anything you can't afford to loose... or hang on to for a couple of years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭heffo500


    owltrader wrote: »
    Guys so which broker u have been using to trade Pot Stocks? Cheers
    Probably a bit late to the party, but some analysts see Canopy Growth hitting 100 CAD per share.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    No Party's not over Canada has a weed shortage, we need to find who's got loads to supply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    heffo500 wrote: »
    Probably a bit late to the party, but some analysts see Canopy Growth hitting 100 CAD per share.

    Or else a major dump when people cash in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    No Party's not over Canada has a weed shortage, we need to find who's got loads to supply.

    but future profit IS already priced into the share price.
    Canopy share is $70.... market cap of 16bn ..but what's their revenue for this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Jesus I hadn't looked in a while... more than future profit baked into that price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    It might be prudent to set up some stop losses (not at too high a price though if there's a shakedown to get some cheap shares).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I'm all out of pot except for a little punt on Friday night which I'm probably going to bail out of tomorrow with a respectable profit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I'm all out of pot except for a little punt on Friday night which I'm probably going to bail out of tomorrow with a respectable profit.

    How come you got out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    How come you got out?

    Needed the money, Want to get in on CNBX with their Seedo partnership, think that could be the next iPhone. Seedo are meant to be doing a launch with some top celebrity very shortly, probably someone like snoop. It's not listed on Degiro though.


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