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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • #392
    [Deleted User]
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    pilly wrote: »
    Yeah, there's no hatred going on here. :rolleyes:

    It's absolutely justified is it not!??! That man murdered someone in cold blood. Can't we hate that?Don't you?

    And before anyone goes off on a racist angle, the poster speaks highly of the Japanese man who was the victim. A man working here, by all accounts. Save your roll eyes.


  • #393
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    pilly wrote: »
    Never mind though, they're not brown muslims, they're just your average white scumbag like our own.

    You are the one going on like brown people from the middle east and north africa are some lesser, child-like race which cant be held to your lofty standards. If people were calling a "white" person a scumbag for murdering a randomer in cold blood at 9am on a Wednesday morning in Dundalk you'd be nowhere to be seen, oh great protector.


  • #394
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Different because he also stabbed two other people unprovoked on the streets, as well as the deceased man whom he killed. The other murders this week were perpetrated by people known to each other, a pair of brother and a pair of friends.

    Also, the friends in Cavan were both immigrants so try again with your points scoring.

    Let's go then Wity the seemingly random women murdered in limerick, if I'm 'point scoring'

    Random, no real motive, surely then that must be terror rated also?

    Or just a sheer brutal act that needs to be taken as such?


  • #395
    pq0n1ct4ve8zf5
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    testaccount123 wrote: »
    'Johnny foreigner' was murdered in cold blood on the streets of Dundalk today, but the primary concern seems to be with the feelings of the middle eastern chap among quite a few posters.

    I anyone on this thread has an objection to immigration from Japan.

    I don't give a fcuk about the feelings of the man who did this, I do give a fcuk about the feelings of moderate, peaceful Muslims living in Ireland who may feel themselves caught between two communities and then see the native, secular community reacting to this man's actions with "Ban them, deport them, it's a murder cult, this will only get worse if we keep letting them in!".

    What kind of simple worldview and brain can't draw the distinction between "not all Muslims and refugees are terrorists" and "I reeeeeally like terrorists, stop being mean to them" I don't fcuking know


  • #396
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    I anyone on this thread has an objection to immigration from Japan.
    Don't know about this thread, but AH has had well more than it's fair share of people down the years who don't want any immigration into Ireland so as not to upset our "racial purity" I think is usually the preferred term.


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  • #397
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    pilly wrote: »
    "Butchering 3 people"? Really? Exaggerate much?

    Oh no the ''much'' thing from 2012, remember that!? I would call plunging a knife into someone butchering, especially if it results in death. Was he giving them a struggle snuggle?


  • #398
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,093 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I just hope that when they investigate this they learn some valuable lessons about how to keep excuses for humanity like this Egyptian out of Ireland. I know it’s probably a forlorn hope but it’s all I got at the moment.


  • #399
    dav3
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    Different because he also stabbed two other people unprovoked on the streets, as well as the deceased man whom he killed.

    He also stabbed two other people? Is this confirmed, or are you making it up?


  • #400
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    bennyl10 wrote: »
    So what if he is Muslim?

    There's a large Muslim population here, peacefully? Yes!

    Again other crimes here are committed by Catholics? They're all to blame also?

    I'm Just saying, until we know a motive, the racism stuff is dangerous.. and racism is entirely what it is!

    Can't. Be. Racist. Against. A. Religion.

    Islam. Is. A. Religion.


  • #401
    [Deleted User]
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    dav3 wrote: »
    He also stabbed two other people? Is this confirmed, or are you making it up?
    News says he stabbed another and hit another with a pole.


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  • #402
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Nah. The ones wetting themselves with excitement about Muslim terrorism could not care less about the victim.

    Sure, sure, people who oppose mass unchecked immigration of uneducated muslim fighting age youth (but not japanese people) into Europe are actually using some elaborate reverse-psychology to ensure mass killings keep happening

    ffs


  • #403
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Can't. Be. Racist. Against. A. Religion.

    Islam. Is. A. Religion.

    Islamaphobic then

    Better?


  • #404
    [Deleted User]
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    pilly wrote: »
    3 "butchered" apparently, shocking, bits of bodies all over Dundalk. :rolleyes:

    It is shocking actually. Luckily there were no children going to school subjected to seeing it. But you keep rolling your eyes there.


  • #405
    daveyeh
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    Has nobody mentioned Hitler yet??


  • #406
    Strazdas
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I just hope that when they investigate this they learn some valuable lessons about how to keep excuses for humanity like this Egyptian out of Ireland. I know it’s probably a forlorn hope but it’s all I got at the moment.

    Irish immigration laws are actually pretty strict, stricter than the UK for example (and it's not as if the country is easy to enter either being an island nation).


  • #407
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    We've had about a half dozen bad stabbings in just the last weeks with several dead which is always sad to hear, but especially in and around Christmas time.

    I know what you mean. I much rather when my family are killed in the Summer months.


  • #408
    no.8
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    pilly wrote:
    3 "butchered" apparently, shocking, bits of bodies all over Dundalk.


    Overly used term but head-in-the-sand / ignorant clown springs to mind.

    Sorry but how can you fail to view this as anything but a serious event. You can imagine this man's poor family in Japan. Slain on the streets in supposedly safe and peaceful Ireland by a demented immigrant. Wtf had he against easy Asians / Irish / any other human


  • #409
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Equium wrote:
    Have some ****ing respect.


    It wasn't me who brought the word "butchered" into the conversation. Read the thread.

    Hence the inverted commas.


  • #410
    testaccount123
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Don't know about this thread, but AH has had well more than it's fair share of people down the years who don't want any immigration into Ireland so as not to upset our "racial purity" I think is usually the preferred term.

    It is a perfectly reasonable position to oppose situations like this one - an 18 year old Egyptian wandering around Dundalk after being refused leave to stay in the UK for god knows what reason - and support all other types of immigration.

    Yet post after post here just calls everyone with this perfectly reasonable position racist.


  • #411
    The Backwards Man
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    Fernando Flat Silkworm wrote: »
    I don't give a fcuk about the feelings of the man who did this, I do give a fcuk about the feelings of moderate, peaceful Muslims living in Ireland who may feel themselves caught between two communities and then see the native, secular community reacting to this man's actions with "Ban them, deport them, it's a murder cult, this will only get worse if we keep letting them in!".

    What kind of simple worldview and brain can't draw the distinction between "not all Muslims and refugees are terrorists" and "I reeeeeally like terrorists, stop being mean to them" I don't fcuking know
    Most of them can draw the distinction alright, it just completely blows their agenda of hate out of the water if they had to admit it. It's easier to be vile and evil if you can demonize a vile and evil opponent.


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  • #412
    Annasopra
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    testaccount123 wrote: »
    Sure, sure, people who oppose mass unchecked immigration of uneducated muslim fighting age youth (but not japanese people) into Europe are actually using some elaborate reverse-psychology to ensure mass killings keep happening

    ffs

    When did anyone from this group of people express any sympathy? All they are posting is rabble rabble... deport them all.... rabble rabble... only a matter of time.... all egyptians and syrians.....rabble rabble.... definitely a terrorist attack.

    It is almost like circling the wagons in glee this happened.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #413
    Malayalam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    Your posts on these matters always stand out. A beacon of normality in a sea of screaming liberals and baying intolerants.

    Thank you, Fake Sheikh. I try and read around the issue a lot, and when i find myself becoming unbalanced I make a conscious effort to right the ship. Sometimes I get a burning feeling of rage and even intolerance if i read of some dreadful rape by people offered refuge, or of act of brutality in the name of a fundamentalist religion, and so i can understand people who get incensed, in that way. I know the gut feeling of helpless anger. But then I also make an effort to remember my friends in Morocco or India, who are Muslim and all the awesome Muslim people i have met over the years. Maybe I go listen to a young musician from Iran or check out the work of an artist from Afghanistan or whatever it takes not to lump all these fellow humans together because of the dreadful acts of some terrible people. There are real problems though...big ones...and we need to be precise about that.


  • #414
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    pilly wrote: »
    Difference is he was white.


    Never mind though, they're not brown muslims, they're just your average white scumbag like our own.

    This usual sh*te. People like you love trotting out the 'brown people' argument and infer that posters on here love nothing more than running down 'brown' people when anything to do with Islam comes up. You talk about people wetting themselves with excitement. Hypocrisy at its finest. Muslims come in all colours, there's over a billion of them on the planet. It's not a race thing. Anytime I see the phrase 'brown people' it's 99% of the time from apologists and far left leaners.


  • #415
    Noel82
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    Blah cognitive dissonance.

    This is what happens when you let people from arse backwards cultures into a civilized country. Regardless of today's attack, they don't integrate and they form their own parallel societies. It's not just acts of terrorism, the social problems are often ignored. It might be a stabbing today but the bigger these communities get the more problems that occur. It's happened in other civilized countries like France, Germany and Sweden. Streets are full of Ghettos and safety has gone down as a result impacting those who've lived their entire life there all in the name of social justice and virtue signalling nonsense. London's crime statistics are way up for the previous year.

    https://www.london.gov.uk/moderngov/documents/s67144/05b%20-%20Appendix%201%20-%20MOPAC%20Quarterly%20Report.pdf

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    Multiculturalism isn't a bad thing when the people who come want to accept our way of living and integrate into society it has great benefits. Letting countless uneducated "refugees" who's culture isn't compatible with ours only results in crime and social problems across the board and it's probably already too late to reverse the trend in many European countries. Nobody had a problem when mass amounts of Polish immigrants came here, they integrated into society and have benefited Ireland as a whole. It's not a matter of skin color or race either, it's purely culture related.

    Angela Merkel, who some people are defending on this thread has said as much multiple times. It's not the of idea multiculturalism as a whole that's ruined Europe as it's always existed, it's the standard of people that have been let in.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/12/14/angela-merkel-multiculturalism-is-a-sham/?utm_term=.b8558b982ee4

    Multiculturalism is a sham, says Angela Merkel

    "Multiculturalism leads to parallel societies and therefore remains a ‘life lie,’ ” or a sham, she said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

    "Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democratic Union party, Merkel said the idea of people from different cultural backgrounds living happily "side by side" did not work.

    She said the onus was on immigrants to do more to integrate into German society.

    "This [multicultural] approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, west of Berlin, yesterday."


  • #416
    testaccount123
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    Fernando Flat Silkworm wrote: »
    I don't give a fcuk about the feelings of the man who did this, I do give a fcuk about the feelings of moderate, peaceful Muslims living in Ireland who may feel themselves caught between two communities and then see the native, secular community reacting to this man's actions with "Ban them, deport them, it's a murder cult, this will only get worse if we keep letting them in!".

    It will keep getting worse if we keep letting them in. Im sorry but thats the simple reality of it.

    Theres plenty of places in the world we can import people from if you want diversity or whatever. Followers of awful religions from barbaric countries should be last on the list.


  • #417
    testaccount123
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    When did anyone from this group of people express any sympathy?

    Here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105717796&postcount=76


  • #418
    Tell me how
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    Creative83 wrote:
    Yes, the majority of Muslims are peaceful! But is this the price we have to pay to accommodate those that are peaceful?? The dregs that tag along with them... stabbings, killings, assaults... do we want to live in this upcoming type of society ourselves?

    Do you want to live in the type of society that ignores the plight of 1000 people because of the risk that one poses?


  • #419
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    pilly wrote: »
    It wasn't me who brought the word "butchered" into the conversation. Read the thread.

    Hence the inverted commas.

    You are attempting to minimise a man's murder for your own twisted motives.


  • #420
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,845 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    It is a perfectly reasonable position to oppose situations like this one - an 18 year old Egyptian wandering around Dundalk after being refused leave to stay in the UK for god knows what reason - and support all other types of immigration.

    Yet post after post here just calls everyone with this perfectly reasonable position racist.

    One wonders if he entered the Republic through Northern Ireland : Dundalk seems a strange location for him to show up in.

    It's certainly not easy to enter Ireland through the usual channels. You can't just stroll through customs / immigration controls if you have no right to residency, not unless you're passing yourself off as a regular tourist.


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  • #421
    Jobs OXO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Do you want to live in the type of society that ignores the plight of 1000 people because of the risk that one poses?

    Yes please.


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