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Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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  • #362
    CZ 453
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    No confirmation it is terror related.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/potential-terror-link-to-fatal-dundalk-attack-being-investigated-1.3343796


  • #363
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    pilly wrote: »
    Yeah, there's no hatred going on here. :rolleyes:

    Another heart bleeding for the murderer.
    bennyl10 wrote:
    There's been other stabbing a and murders this week by Irish people, why is this different? It's a criminal murder, horrific, but not any different then the others.

    You need to ask why its different? Do you not get news in your house? There have been hundreds and hundreds of innocents murdered by Islamic terrorists in Europe over the last year or two - ordinary people going to markets, kids concerts etc.

    This looks like the first instance of it happening here and people are concerned about it.

    Someone not being able to see this is alarming, to say the least.


  • #364
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Omackeral wrote: »
    You're hard work. Assaults and punches are unfortunately part of today's society. Scuffles happen. I'm sure the majority of one punch assaulters aren't trying to kill people (they're still scum btw). A fella taking a fcuking knife onto the streets of a major town and butchering three people on a rush hour morning, killing one, is a bit different. If you don't see that, we've nothing else to discuss.


    "Butchering 3 people"? Really? Exaggerate much?


  • #365
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    Is it really a rampage when only 1 dead?

    Ah you know yourself. Any hint of anything related to Johnny foreigner and some people around here are wetting themselves with excitement that it might be terrorist related.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #366
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    Yeah you keep your head in the sand and keep chanting “it’s not a trrrorist attack and he wasn’t a migrant or a Muslim” that will work!

    So what if he is Muslim?

    There's a large Muslim population here, peacefully? Yes!

    Again other crimes here are committed by Catholics? They're all to blame also?

    I'm Just saying, until we know a motive, the racism stuff is dangerous.. and racism is entirely what it is!


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  • #367
    Rory28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Ah you know yourself. Any hint of anything related to Johnny foreigner and some people around here are wetting themselves with excitement that it might be terrorist related.

    Or you know fear manifesting itself as anger.


  • #368
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I walk that way every few days with the dog.. No way is it 20 mins.
    10 mins from roundabout to the Quay lights is the max. Faster if you were running obviously.

    Had it at 10-12 minutes myself....National Tile to Quay lights which is Barrack St. Then up to the Windmill/Shamrock corner which I would say is the start of Seatown Place.......Christ I must be getting old. Wouldnt be doing it in 8 minutes myself.... :D:D

    Where was he arrested then??? Didnt they say it was on the Coes Road???


  • #369
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    Is it really a rampage when only 1 dead?

    3 "butchered" apparently, shocking, bits of bodies all over Dundalk. :rolleyes:


  • #370
    Creative83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    CZ 453 wrote: »
    No confirmation it is terror related.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/potential-terror-link-to-fatal-dundalk-attack-being-investigated-1.3343796

    If it is confirmed then it's all down hill from here I think


  • #371
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    You'd swear we didn't have a murder every second day here!!

    We don't. Those that we do have usually have mitigating circumstances.


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  • #372
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    Is it really a rampage when only 1 dead?
    Can't we just close this thread and start a Merman on a Moose one instead, or would we need someone more local to be at fault for that?

    Awful news though, and you have to hope the family of the man who died are supported through it. We've had about a half dozen bad stabbings in just the last weeks with several dead which is always sad to hear, but especially in and around Christmas time.


  • #373
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,717 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    No proof he's Muslim,assumed sure. But so what? There are thousands of muslims here?

    There's been other stabbing a and murders this week by Irish people, why is this different? It's a criminal murder, horrific, but not any different then the others.

    Ah yes, he's an immigrant, sure it's different rhen?!
    I hope you're right Benny that it was a young man with mental health problems.
    However i'm afraid that it is different from the other stabbing in the country this week in that it was and immigrant and the attacks were random and that's what worries me.


  • #374
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    pilly wrote: »
    3 "butchered" apparently, shocking, bits of bodies all over Dundalk. :rolleyes:

    As I said; wetting themselves with excitement.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #375
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,168 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Malayalam wrote:
    There is a problem however with the teachings coming out of fundamentalist Islam - the mad mullahs despise infidels, homosexuals, women, and teach thus. Young vulnerable under-educated and impoverished people, especially those accustomed to cultures that emphasise machismo seem particularly vulnerable to these dreadful religious ideologies, which guarantee them a sense of meaning in a world which offers them little. We need to state publicly and emphatically that any such forms of fundamentalist islam will not be tolerated here.

    What we could do as a starter is stop saying that Islam across the board is the religion of peace, because patently not ALL Islam is the religion of peace. We need to be precise and stop worrying about being labeled racists if we challenge the Medieval style Islam that sometimes follows migrating populations as is seen presently in Europe.

    We can try and root out any extremist teachers here, online or in any meeting places. We can ensure that we enshrine our countries Civil law as being unassailable by any attempts at soft Shariah law in our communities.

    We can push for integration of Islamic communities into Irish society, whereby religion is a domestic issue for the home, subject to nation state regulations such as those regarding FGM for example, rather than having this laissez-faire multiculturalist dream which is simply not compatible with a liberal, secular, progressive society such as Europe has evolved into after hard centuries of its own dark ages.

    Agree with pretty much all of that.
    Some challenges in defining the interpretation of what is radical or not but I don't think that it's a challenge that should be avoided.


  • #376
    Equium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Equium


    pilly wrote: »
    3 "butchered" apparently, shocking, bits of bodies all over Dundalk. :rolleyes:

    Have some ****ing respect.


  • #377
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Deleted User wrote: »
    As I said earlier in the thread, I went for a spin, they had the Avenue Road closed, two areas (one either side of National Tile) on the bypass cordoned off, nothing in Seatown.

    Google maps reckons about 13 minutes from National Tile to Seatown Place: https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/National+Tile+Ltd+-+Dundalk,+Coes+Rd,+Marshes+Lower,+Dundalk,+Co.+Louth/seatown+place/@54.0028456,-6.3894262,16.25z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x4860cc27afa27e4f:0xc9cc9355b432a5c1!2m2!1d-6.380674!2d54.000738!1m5!1m1!1s0x4860ce9f74e6926d:0x471da40242b18e16!2m2!1d-6.391834!2d54.005274!3e2

    It's a good thing this guy was retarded and took the route he took at the time he took.

    Would suggest to me he didnt know the town very well.....alternative route and her could have been at a number of school, council offices, churches etc. in the same time.


  • #378
    testaccount123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭testaccount123


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Ah you know yourself. Any hint of anything related to Johnny foreigner and some people around here are wetting themselves with excitement that it might be terrorist related.

    'Johnny foreigner' was murdered in cold blood on the streets of Dundalk today, but the primary concern seems to be with the feelings of the middle eastern chap among quite a few posters.

    I anyone on this thread has an objection to immigration from Japan.


  • #379
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,717 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Would suggest to me he didnt know the town very well.....alternative route and her could have been at a number of school, council offices, churches etc. in the same time.
    No schools open this week except DKIT where the victim seems to have been attending.


  • #380
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Would suggest to me he didnt know the town very well.....alternative route and her could have been at a number of school, council offices, churches etc. in the same time.
    Yeah he only arrived a few days ago. Luckily the by-pass is pretty light on foot-traffic around that time, it's be busier in the evenings with joggers and walkers.


  • #381
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I hope you're right Benny that it was a young man with mental health problems.
    However i'm afraid that it is different from the other stabbing in the country this week in that it was and immigrant and the attacks were random and that's what worries me.

    BS. The guy who stabbed another over a card game was an immigrant too.

    Difference is he was white.

    In fact I'd be willing to be there are without doubt more crimes committed here in Ireland by white immigrants than immigrants of other colour. Certainly has been my experience of the courts.

    Never mind though, they're not brown muslims, they're just your average white scumbag like our own.


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  • #382
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Malayalam wrote: »
    A solution is very difficult. But we could stop tip toeing around issues that are considered politically incorrect for a start.

    Reasonable people know full well that the vast majority of people who are Muslim are good, ordinary human beings who want a happy life. The people of Iran, Egypt, Morocco, Syria, Afghanistan etc have pretty much the exact same desires as the people of Ireland, there is a lot of cool stuff going on in those countries, especially in youth culture, and they deserve a break from the hellish circumstances that history has forced upon them. They are our noble fellow beings.

    There is a problem however with the teachings coming out of fundamentalist Islam - the mad mullahs despise infidels, homosexuals, women, and teach thus. Young vulnerable under-educated and impoverished people, especially those accustomed to cultures that emphasise machismo seem particularly vulnerable to these dreadful religious ideologies, which guarantee them a sense of meaning in a world which offers them little. We need to state publicly and emphatically that any such forms of fundamentalist islam will not be tolerated here.

    What we could do as a starter is stop saying that Islam across the board is the religion of peace, because patently not ALL Islam is the religion of peace. We need to be precise and stop worrying about being labeled racists if we challenge the Medieval style Islam that sometimes follows migrating populations as is seen presently in Europe.

    We can try and root out any extremist teachers here, online or in any meeting places. We can ensure that we enshrine our countries Civil law as being unassailable by any attempts at soft Shariah law in our communities.

    We can push for integration of Islamic communities into Irish society, whereby religion is a domestic issue for the home, subject to nation state regulations such as those regarding FGM for example, rather than having this laissez-faire multiculturalist dream which is simply not compatible with a liberal, secular, progressive society such as Europe has evolved into after hard centuries of its own dark ages.

    I am very sad to hear of the death of this poor man from Japan, and of the assaults upon the other two people. It must have been absolutely terrifying for them. Condolences to the dead man's loved ones. Tragic news.

    Your posts on these matters always stand out. A beacon of normality in a sea of screaming liberals and baying intolerants.


  • #383
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,168 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    testaccount123 wrote:
    'Johnny foreigner' was murdered in cold blood on the streets of Dundalk today, but the primary concern seems to be with the feelings of the middle eastern chap among quite a few posters.

    See, I see most on this thread as using it as an opportunity to assume all middle eastern chaps (as you called them) are possessed with the same intent as the perpetrator of this morning's attack.


  • #384
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    There's been other stabbing a and murders this week by Irish people, why is this different? It's a criminal murder, horrific, but not any different then the others.

    Ah yes, he's an immigrant, sure it's different rhen?!

    Different because he also stabbed two other people unprovoked on the streets, as well as the deceased man whom he killed. The other murders this week were perpetrated by people known to each other, a pair of brother and a pair of friends.

    Also, the friends in Cavan were both immigrants so try again with your points scoring.


  • #385
    patsman07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭patsman07


    Malayalam wrote: »
    A solution is very difficult. But we could stop tip toeing around issues that are considered politically incorrect for a start.

    Reasonable people know full well that the vast majority of people who are Muslim are good, ordinary human beings who want a happy life. The people of Iran, Egypt, Morocco, Syria, Afghanistan etc have pretty much the exact same desires as the people of Ireland, there is a lot of cool stuff going on in those countries, especially in youth culture, and they deserve a break from the hellish circumstances that history has forced upon them. They are our noble fellow beings.

    There is a problem however with the teachings coming out of fundamentalist Islam - the mad mullahs despise infidels, homosexuals, women, and teach thus. Young vulnerable under-educated and impoverished people, especially those accustomed to cultures that emphasise machismo seem particularly vulnerable to these dreadful religious ideologies, which guarantee them a sense of meaning in a world which offers them little. We need to state publicly and emphatically that any such forms of fundamentalist islam will not be tolerated here.

    What we could do as a starter is stop saying that Islam across the board is the religion of peace, because patently not ALL Islam is the religion of peace. We need to be precise and stop worrying about being labeled racists if we challenge the Medieval style Islam that sometimes follows migrating populations as is seen presently in Europe.

    We can try and root out any extremist teachers here, online or in any meeting places. We can ensure that we enshrine our countries Civil law as being unassailable by any attempts at soft Shariah law in our communities.

    We can push for integration of Islamic communities into Irish society, whereby religion is a domestic issue for the home, subject to nation state regulations such as those regarding FGM for example, rather than having this laissez-faire multiculturalist dream which is simply not compatible with a liberal, secular, progressive society such as Europe has evolved into after hard centuries of its own dark ages.

    I am very sad to hear of the death of this poor man from Japan, and of the assaults upon the other two people. It must have been absolutely terrifying for them. Condolences to the dead man's loved ones. Tragic news.

    Hit the nail on the absolute head. Anyone who doubts this should read Douglas Murray's latest book-'The Death of Europe' or watch Sam Harris speaking about Islam on YouTube.


  • #386
    Rory28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    pilly wrote: »
    BS. The guy who stabbed another over a card game was an immigrant too.

    Difference is he was white.

    In fact I'd be willing to be there are without doubt more crimes committed here in Ireland by white immigrants than immigrants of other colour. Certainly has been my experience of the courts.

    Never mind though, they're not brown muslims, they're just your average white scumbag like our own.

    He stabbed a guy over something. Stupid and horrific but there is a why to it. Why is that Japanese man dead?


  • #387
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    testaccount123 wrote: »
    'Johnny foreigner' was murdered in cold blood on the streets of Dundalk today, but the primary concern seems to be with the feelings of the middle eastern chap among quite a few posters.

    I anyone on this thread has an objection to immigration from Japan.

    Nah. The ones wetting themselves with excitement about Muslim terrorism could not care less about the victim.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #388
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I hope you're right Benny that it was a young man with mental health problems.
    However i'm afraid that it is different from the other stabbing in the country this week in that it was and immigrant and the attacks were random and that's what worries me.

    Unfortunately this term is one used on mainland Europe all too often to justify such attacks. Number of cases in Germany in the last 12 months.....officially mental health problems and then mosques are searched and people questioned. They only tell us what they want us to know and that is normally to avoid protest or fear amongst the population.


  • #389
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 54,717 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    pilly wrote: »
    BS. The guy who stabbed another over a card game was an immigrant too.

    Difference is he was white.

    In fact I'd be willing to be there are without doubt more crimes committed here in Ireland by white immigrants than immigrants of other colour. Certainly has been my experience of the courts.

    Never mind though, they're not brown muslims, they're just your average white scumbag like our own.
    They knew each other and therefore it was over a card game.
    This was entirely random.
    So you're talking BS.;)


  • #390
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,601 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    pilly wrote: »
    BS. The guy who stabbed another over a card game was an immigrant too.

    Difference is he was white.

    In fact I'd be willing to be there are without doubt more crimes committed here in Ireland by white immigrants than immigrants of other colour. Certainly has been my experience of the courts.

    Never mind though, they're not brown muslims, they're just your average white scumbag like our own.

    THANK YOU!!

    ^^^
    THIS!

    Hundreds of Irish people in the Islamic faith too.. but shur they're fine,

    Once they're not johnny Arab!

    And again,. ZERO CONCRETE MOTIVE FOR THIS MURDER YET.


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  • #391
    Will I Am Not
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    As I said; wetting themselves with excitement.

    There is absolutely no difference between them and the excuse brigade.


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