Dairy chit chat II

Hope everyone has Roto vaccine for early calvers got, won't be available till 15/20 jan I'm told

simx wrote: »

Hope everyone has Roto vaccine for early calvers got, won't be available till 15/20 jan I'm told

Feck

33.4 litres.
3.5 pr.
4.88 bf.
6k tbc.
188k scc.

Once cows stopped grazing, solids took a huge leap.


Fair money being earned from milk now!

jaymla627 wrote: »

I'm just hoping I can come across a young lad like that despite spending a small fortune only has a cop of 22c/l I'll simply hand the farm over to him on a 20 year lease and live a life of leisure

I'm not sure I'm reading the right article or not, but am I right in saying that he's gone from 72 cows to 320 without spending anything on housing. How is he complying with nitrates? Can't imagine the farms were stocked anywhere near as intensely in the previous regime.

I went to a Teagasc meeting last week in mallow on the new nitrates derogation rules. They kept banging on and on about getting slurry storage nailed down properly for next year, so much so that it must be very common for intensive farmers to be without the required storage. But I thought you had to have it all sorted to get the derogation in the first place. Tbh I was confused and haven't talked to my advisor since to ask him.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I read an Agriland article at lunchtime on the young farmer of the year. Jesus wept.
Poor lad had only 250 owned acres to start...
More Teagasc/dairy establishment bullshyte!!
When are you guys going to be market led, rather than supply driven??

I’d be a lot more impressed if a young fellow was producing something from a perch of land that consumers actually wanted.

There is a market, they call it intervention,Can't believe the CAP budget is still being spent on buying and storing this stuff.

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

That man has spent a fortune in the yard and on the land. 50 unit rotary went in last year and a pile of topless cubicles that will be roofed at a later date. You won't find a piece of steel in the place that isn't galvanised. Take a closer look at the photos and you will see!!

They also used to fatten 350 bulls so I would imagine that accommodation was changed for cows.
His cost of production obviously doesn't include his loans or what he pays himself.

How about you stick up your cost of production and what litres you sold this year so we can work out how much you owe the bank Jay?!

Fair points but no way I’m
Buying his cop and no way it should be posted as is cause it’s nothing only a crock of ****e ,I’m taking nothing away from the chap serious progress but why oh why are we constantly been fed profit monitor crap missing so much ,to then print it and feed it to national and international media is plain criminal and insulting to dairy farmers all over this country

Timmaay wrote: »

Link to the article please?

Agriland article on twitter Tim ,

I think some of ye have yer wires crossed between this years and last years young farmer of the year lads, simalar herd sizes alright

jaymla627 wrote: »

Sitting at 2000 euro a cow if you really want to know, haven't done up the figures for 2017 but am keeping the wolf from the door and all bills will be cleared up starting into 2018, and I don't own a acre of land either I do know repayments on capital and interest plus land rental comes in at nearly 8 cent a litre with 7800 litres been sent per cow so maybe you might just understand my awe and amazement at the above lad when he throws out 22 cent a litre as cop

his COP definitely is 22 but that's his decision if he wants to tell us or not. 22 only covers the bare direct costs of producing the litre

If it was me I wouldn't want my COP to be published so i could be gossiped about in the pub as to what I owe

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

his COP definitely is 22 but that's his decision if he wants to tell us or not. 22 only covers the bare direct costs of producing the litre

If it was me I wouldn't want my COP to be published so i could be gossiped about in the pub as to what I owe

Never heard the term "bear cost of production" before it's a good one maybe the journal/agriland could put that as a disclaimer every time they publish more bulls**t figures

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

That's the rub, though. Farm debt varies widely and the COP used by Teagasc is a comparison of common costs, not all costs. So two farms can compare their costs against each other without different drawings and loan repayments skewing costs in favour of a farmer with no loans and low drawings.

Teagasc need to be brought up on this and soon.

Milk price- ProfitMonitor COP does not equal profit.

Agree cop is cop though ,full cost if not included don’t print it ,a pure half arse attempt to include wages was made for profit monitors but still the figure without is peddled out

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

That's the rub, though. Farm debt varies widely and the COP used by Teagasc is a comparison of common costs, not all costs. So two farms can compare their costs against each other without different drawings and loan repayments skewing costs in favour of a farmer with no loans and low drawings.

Teagasc need to be brought up on this and soon.

Milk price- ProfitMonitor COP does not equal profit.

It needs to be renamed "Cost Comparison".....it actually has nothing to do with profit....

Data is collected for use in cost comparison between farmers who submit and wish to share....

It is not for the use of teagasc or journalists to be Mickey waving building profiles...

There is no service to farmers in the way these figures are bandied about....