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Will or would you donate your water refund?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    sozbox wrote: »
    If the charities can’t solve the issue with the €120m or so they already have I doubt my €200 will make a difference.

    Of course if they did solve the problem they would no longer exist and we can’t be having that can we. CEO needs his 90k package.

    You can't solve homelessness. Every country in the world has it.

    You can improve it, but never eradicate it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    sozbox wrote: »
    If the charities can’t solve the issue with the €120m or so they already have I doubt my €200 will make a difference.

    Of course if they did solve the problem they would no longer exist and we can’t be having that can we. CEO needs his 90k package.
    No charity (except those 100% staffed by volunteers) have the slightest interest in "solving" the cause they champion. Quite the reverse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    I helped out the local st vdp one year locally to deliver a few Xmas hampers. I was genuinely shocked by some of the people that got them. I'm certainly not saying they didn't deserve them, probably really did need them, but it seems there are a great deal of hidden poor families out there.
    Maybe local based charities are the best to help if you have doubts about the bigger ones.
    I give food parcels to local groups who collect them, one nearby town has a toy scheme whereby you buy a toy for a child's name on an Xmas card on a big tree. You can give something and know what you give ultimately has to be going to a worthy recipient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,953 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We have cash benefits among the highest in the world. What are these people spending the money given to them on?

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Yeah but did you film all that and yourself giving a homeless man a scone for likes on Facebook.

    Does anyone actually do this? Serious question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Satts


    I'll be doing a Jesus on it and turning water in to wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I find when charities say things like this it sort of turns me off them. My father gave money to a homeless charity and every so often they'd send him a letter looking for money but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I find when charities say things like this it sort of turns me off them. My father gave money to a homeless charity and every so often they'd send him a letter lucking for money but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

    A couple of charities are moving towards legacy donations by asking people to donate something from their estate after they pass.
    It's surprisingly popular with a number of individuals leaving thier houses to homeless charities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    A couple of charities are moving towards legacy donations by asking people to donate something from their estate after they pass.
    It's surprisingly popular with a number of individuals leaving thier houses to homeless charities.

    I totally understand this. It was just the way the note was written didn't sound good!


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭Pithythefool


    The government should have held onto it themselves, and then, very publicly, donated it to the charities.

    The people who bought into the scam of Irish water deserve nothing but a hard lesson. They were willing to bend over and take it, and by doing so, drag the rest of us down with them.

    Giving them the money back will mean they learn nothing, and then when the next scam is dreamed up by the government they will probably buy into that one too....

    oh, wait...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    I find when charities say things like this it sort of turns me off them. My father gave money to a homeless charity and every so often they'd send him a letter lucking for money but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

    Doesn't surprise me; they will do anything and say anything to squeeze money out of you. There must be tremendous pressure on charity staff/volunteers to get money in order to pay the inordinate salaries of the charity executives.

    And I'm fed up with the constant barrage of charity commercials on television during this 'festive' season. One has to wonder whether the ad money could have been put to better use.

    This initiative for people to donate water refunds just shows how detached these charities are from the real world. Of course RTE was all over this (as you might expect) and watching the interviews of charity heads/reps talking about the refunds; you get a sense that they feel entitled to get that money.
    They have no consideration of people possibly needing the refunds themselves, and their methods of trying to make us feel guilty should not be rewarded.

    I keep charity local and will never again contribute to any large charity organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,300 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    The government should have got revenue to collect the charges, a major bags up on their behalf. Us in rural areas payed thousands to get water in and dirty water out and pay everyday for its upkeep.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The homeless charity industry receives over 120million a year in government funding

    Enough to build houses for all the homeless since the crisis began
    Exactly. As the anti water people were foud of telling us, we already pay for water and the homeless in our taxes.

    So why pay twice?
    touts wrote: »
    Not a chance. Many of the bleeding heart media attention seeking lefties now telling me that the money could be better spent on the homeless were the very people telling me not to pay the charges a few years ago and that water should be paid for out of general taxation. Well had we all paid for water like we should have then there would be more money in general taxation to help the homeless properly.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    The government should have got revenue to collect the charges, a major bags up on their behalf. Us in rural areas payed thousands to get water in and dirty water out and pay everyday for its upkeep. .

    Ever wonder why Revenue wasn't involved? Think about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    The government should have got revenue to collect the charges, a major bags up on their behalf. Us in rural areas payed thousands to get water in and dirty water out and pay everyday for its upkeep. .

    Ever wonder why Revenue wasn't involved? Think about it.

    Oh Jesus, please don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    A couple of charities are moving towards legacy donations by asking people to donate something from their estate after they pass.
    It's surprisingly popular with a number of individuals leaving thier houses to homeless charities.

    I'm leaving something to charity when I go above or below! I've no children and a house and a few bob and my nieces will be crippled by tax by what I leave so can only give them so much. Am defo looking into charity options as no way am I leaving SFA to the taxman out of my after tax income.

    Estate planning is so important and people don't pay enough attention to it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,446 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    My housemates have moved out since.
    All for Silas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Why would you give to a charity? Hundreds of homeless people all around town with cups out. But a tenner in a few of their cups and you know its 100% going to charity then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I intend hiring a Penthouse suite in The Bellagio Vegas with a private performance from Chippendales drinking vintage Champagne from my eighty year old wrinkled belly button, I'm going to burn it, but in case there is anything left, I'd like to help a genuine cause, no fat cat salaries, someone who works on the ground, they really still exist. And they are losing out because of the bad press.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    The only charity I be doing is buying food and blankets for the local animal rescue places. The amount of animals that get thrown out or abused is fcuking shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    anewme wrote: »
    Patww79 wrote: »
    I'd rather have it burnt than pay for a holiday or mistress for some charity CEO if I'd nobody else to leave it to.

    I intend hiring a Penthouse suite in The Bellagio Vegas with a private performance from Chippendales drinking vintage Champagne from my eighty year old wrinkled belly button, I'm going to burn it, but in case there is anything left, I'd like to help a genuine cause, no fat cat salaries, someone who works on the ground, they really still exist. And they are losing out because of the bad press.

    What's happening now is that if a charity particularly one that's a housing association involved with homelessness are left a property are assessing and housing people themselves and not involving local authorities directly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    What's happening now is that if a charity particularly one that's a housing association involved with homelessness are left a property are assessing and housing people themselves and not involving local authorities directly.

    I suppose 50 homeless dogs could live in my house and crap on the neighbours lawn!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    anewme wrote: »
    What's happening now is that if a charity particularly one that's a housing association involved with homelessness are left a property are assessing and housing people themselves and not involving local authorities directly.

    I suppose 50 homeless dogs could live in my house and crap on the neighbours lawn!

    They could.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    anewme wrote: »
    I intend hiring a Penthouse suite in The Bellagio Vegas with a private performance from Chippendales drinking vintage Champagne from my eighty year old wrinkled belly button, I'm going to burn it, but in case there is anything left, I'd like to help a genuine cause, no fat cat salaries, someone who works on the ground, they really still exist. And they are losing out because of the bad press.

    Agreed. They do exist.

    And as mentioned already upthread, buying food and giving it directly to volunteers who work with people in need, homeless or otherwise, is something I prefer to do, when I can.

    A lot of charities have been badly damaged by what was allowed to happen in the likes of REHAB and Console. It will take a long time for that damage to be repaired.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    We spend 120m on homelessness in Dublin.

    http://www.homelessdublin.ie/funding-homeless-services

    Last year, 2016, we spent 96m.

    In 2016 we spent 73m on emergency accomm in Dublin.

    47m was paid to hotels.

    I suggest we spend some of that on building houses instead.


    This is public spending, and it excludes voluntary charity spending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,898 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Even if there were thousands of empty houses, many of the 200 or so rough sleepers in Dublin would still sleep rough.

    So for them, shortage of houses is not the issue.

    Alcohol, drugs, mental illness, chaotic lifestyles are the problems.


    Now, more houses would help the thousands in emergency accomm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,044 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Geuze wrote: »
    Even if there were thousands of empty houses, many of the 200 or so rough sleepers in Dublin would still sleep rough.

    So for them, shortage of houses is not the issue.

    Alcohol, drugs, mental illness, chaotic lifestyles are the problems.


    Now, more houses would help the thousands in emergency accomm.

    I'd rather help the rough sleepers and get to the root of their issues, than contribute towards single parents or families with 3 or 4 children and no means to support themselves. I don't want to psy towards these irresponsible People who think homeless Gets you something's for nothing. The word 'homeless' is very much abused in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    snowflaker wrote: »
    I gave €100 to a fund for a local baby born with cancer.

    The water refund will go into my bank account.

    I now have given more than the refund. The shave was tonight. I gave her €10 directly and she was so delighted - only 1 year old - I was in bits seeing her earlier.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,016 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    but once they putting a little hand written sticky note in it saying remembers us in your will!

    The cheeky Feckers!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭mikeysmith


    I've decided to donate my water refund

    I need lots of bottles and containers for the donation,if any has some going spare please


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,351 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    can't believe people actually paid that money
    I actually overpaid in the hope it would help keep Irish Water afloat...

    Any refund will go to a charitable cause with a non-paid hard working CEO. Hopefully DeV will be even harder working as a result!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭deandean


    I am going to donate my Irish water refund to boards.ie
    That is a worthy cause. It is a genuine service to the people of Ireland. And no fat cat salaries (unfortunately for those involved in boards.ie) :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,526 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Why don't they tap up the people who didn't bother paying for water, look for donations off them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    fullstop wrote:
    Why don't they tap up the people who didn't bother paying for water, look for donations off them?


    IW tried that, didn't work out too well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    No, it will nearly cover my Local Property Tax which is now due so I am keeping if for myself!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    I don't think ordinary joe soaps should be guilt tripped into paying it to charities.i didn't pay out of principle.some paid out of fear eveny though money was tight.those people deserve to spend their money on their own households.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Got mine today. Straight into the bank. Why would I give it away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,197 ✭✭✭bottlebrush


    are people receiving refunds yet? I haven't received mine yet. I have an empty money box on my mantlepiece with the slogan "charity begins at home' waiting for the refund with baited breath so I can treat myself before Christmas


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    I booked a hotel I'm Madrid last week costing €122. Cheque from IW came in the post a couple of days later for €122. If that's not a sign I don't know what is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,327 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Not a fcuking notion of giving it to charity, shtop will you OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭pl4ichjgy17zwd


    are people receiving refunds yet? I haven't received mine yet. I have an empty money box on my mantlepiece with the slogan "charity begins at home' waiting for the refund with baited breath so I can treat myself before Christmas

    You can check when you'll get yours

    https://www.water.ie/for-home/refunds/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Give them nothing..i pay enough tax and then got bullied into paying this water charge...when i get it back i'm drinking it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Give them nothing..i pay enough tax and then got bullied into paying this water charge...when i get it back i'm drinking it.
    Precisely - as has been pointed out, anyone who pays tax already contributes financially to people who are homeless.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Precisely - as has been pointed out, anyone who pays tax already contributes financially to people who are homeless.

    Charities will always make sure they pay their CEOs and directors and staff first and foremost.

    My tax money is going towards homeless accommadation (how about that for an oxymoron) as well as the dole for them to spend on drink and drugs once they're there.

    We must be mad...might as well be working for a bowl of soup and even that the "charaties" want to take off you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭PeterParker957


    fullstop wrote: »
    Why don't they tap up the people who didn't bother paying for water, look for donations off them?

    Jesus no chance - give that **** Murphy another cross ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    No

    cos I had to have the septic tank emptied last week (€180 - once every two years)

    It needed annual servicing too - €80

    Pump was on the last legs - new pump = €210

    So less the €130 water refund (water supply only), the total charge for me this year is a net €340.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,758 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I won't be getting a refund as I supply and pay for my own water supply...despite paying taxes...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    I'm giving it to my local Simon, wasn't expecting it, so not going to miss it.

    It goes back into the economy anyway.

    Because when CEO gets the new indoor pool in their house, materials will be bought at the local supplier's yard and local tilers will get wages, which they in turn will spend in local shops etc.

    It's all good. Feeling very positive today.


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