Refugee Family Reunification

This is a terrible idea. I am looking at Sweden and how young men are sent over to apply for children's asylum despite being mostly mid-20s, then they have the rest of the family shipped over.
They are referred to as "anchor children" cause once they get hooked in they reel the rest of the clan over.

biko wrote: »

This is a terrible idea. I am looking at Sweden and how young men are sent over to apply for children's asylum despite being mostly mid-20s, then they have the rest of the family shipped over.
They are referred to as "anchor children" cause once they get hooked in they reel the rest of the clan over.

Sweden is fcuked, Denmark has put more security on travellers from Sweden because they are afraid of a terrorist attack coming from there. Something like 12 bombs went off over the last month.
If people want thousands of Africans/Arabs/Muslims then they need to realise that women will not be able to walk around at night alone. Our whole way of life will change. You only have to look at Italy/Germany/France & parts of the UK

Dr Brown wrote: »

The NP are too PC for my liking.

They want to "reform" the asylum process and allow asylum seekers "one appeal".

If it was up to me I would shut down the whole asylum system.

Once someone said the word "asylum" in our ports or airports I would have them sent straight back to the their country of origin.

Who said that? As far as I'm aware " one appeal " would only be for special cases

pumpkin4life wrote: »

I like The National Party, but quite frankly, I think Irish people as a whole have to take responsibility for what is actually happening. Get rid of this "dem E.U cùnts" attitude. The Hungarians and Polish are doing that and are way better for it.

But no. We still happily vote for Fianna Gael and Fianna Fail; the party which contributed to the financial ruin of the country.

If we're not going to take responsibility as a people, then so be it.

It's what we deserve.

Still, major respect to Justin, even though I think the party is doomed for a plethora of reasons.

The NP membership is growing at a rapid pace. Things will publicly kick off next year

Peter Sutherland is another of these guys saying let them all in. Hmmm. Good for minimum wage businesses eh Peter.

Oh and while you're at it, maybe you will come out of your safe space eyerie in Switzerland and give your home up for them.

We have got to look at WHY we are expected to do this, well we are guilt tripped all the time by those who will never be affected by it, seems to me.

Really Interested wrote: »

Who I vote for is none of your business. If you want to talk in general about politicians then set up a thread.

I find that Farage is a liar who has twisted the truth on many issues and in my opinion history will not be kind to him. If you want to deflect with what about x, you are not dealing with my issues with the muppet. My opinion of others has nothing to do with the idiot that is Farage.

But yet you are going off about how much of a liar he is etc but can't say whether he's actually lying about the claims he made in that particular video, and suggesting/inferring that the other poster is/is sympathetic to the Russians. To be fair, I think you're the one deflecting.

Myself I'm on record here as being very euro-sceptic. I think we all saw how undemocratic and one-sided the leadership is during the Financial Crisis with countries like Greece (and Ireland if you believe the claims involving the late Brian Lenhihan) being bullied and cornered into accepting "bailouts", and then countries like Hungary being attacked for not being on-board with the Migrant "strategy". Then there's the reactions to Brexit of course.

The EU and its supporters doesn't like opposition or questions (especially not from the ordinary citizens who are expected to just shut up, pay up, and put up)... then they wonder why we see the polarisation of domestic politics and the rise of far left/right parties in recent elections.

The EEC worked pretty well.. it's when the leaders got political notions and the gravy started to flow that things came off the rails.

Really Interested wrote: »

When did you visit Sweden?

Here you go

http://www.projectrepublictoday.com/2017/11/04/sweden-12-bombings-24-days-gruesome-details/

Really Interested wrote: »

My view is that he has been shown to twist the truth and outright lie. As a liar that he has been proved to be I usually ignore him.

George Soros has moved billions into his open borders organisation, he speaks all the time at the EU. He has told the EU that Europe should take in 1 million migrants a year. So what Farage said is more likely to be true

Odhinn wrote: »

This is a "war" between criminal gangs. I know the concept of such a thing is hard for our irish minds to conceive, but there we are.

Yes & the criminal gangs are not Swedes:rolleyes:

Dr Brown wrote: »

The NP should have a policy of taking in zero asylum seekers and "refugees" otherwise they won't get many votes.

This 'National Party' wont get any votes anyway. Its 'principles' are electoral cancer.

National Party Principles
The National Party approaches our membership of the European Union from the principle of refusing to accept the threatened destruction of our Nation’s freedom, and will endeavour to restore those freedoms which have already, unjustly, been given away.

The National Party insists that no law should permit the provision of Abortion in Ireland.

The National Party demands a complete reform of our criminal justice system, placing the protection of society from criminality as its imperative value, up to and including restoration of the Death Penalty for particularly heinous crimes.

Anything which threatens EU membership is electoral poison. Nationalist parties across the EU repeatedly make the mistake of going against EU membership - apart from fringe fanatics, and UK voters, most people in the EU see the EU as very positive. That's not to say the EU is universally popular but people like the benefits of membership. Prosperity, free movement, and countless 'ease of use' factors.

As for abortion - its a Richard Barrett vehicle, so no surprise, but the Irish zeitgeist has moved on. A party demanding no abortion in any circumstances is way behind the curve.

As for the restoration of the death penalty - Jesus Christ. Have these people watched Making a Murderer? Irish people under the age of 50 have.

What is going to change is the Overton window. It's telling that 50 years ago, Enoch Powell was essentially driven from polite society for prophesying the dangers of mass immigration. The vast majority of British voters agreed with him, but he was outside the window so was cast out. While Powell was demonised, he actually understated the rate of change. Nobody, on either side of the discussion (when it was allowed to occur) ever expected ethnic Britons to become a minority within their own capital in less than 50 years. No-one ever ran a campaign on making that change. No one ever won an election on that electoral promise.

Similar changes have occurred in France, Germany, Sweden and several other European countries which have entertained fantasies about 'guest' workers and 'temporary' refugees. Fast forward 50 years and suddenly there is a different people sharing that space, stubbornly separate to the French, Germans and Swedes. The reality is that 50 years ago, the majority of residents in those nations could trace their descent from people living in the same nations (if not states) a hundred years previously. Go forward 50-100 years, and the majority of residents in those nations will not be able to trace their family back further than 120-150 years. This change is not going to occur without political, social and cultural change: The equivalent of Coronation Street a hundred years from now will not be centred on a place where alcohol is served. What will Bonfire Night, 1 world cup and 2 world wars, the blitz spirit or Waterloo mean to 'English' whose family shared none of those experiences in any sense? And what will replace that shared identity? Are people sure it will be better? I'm not.

People are slowly beginning to notice these changes - its not possible to cast out the likes of Powell today. What might have seemed alarmist and reactionary then is simply recognising the reality of demographic trends now (as early as the 90s, both Thatcher and Heath-who sacked Powell - accepted he saw further than they had). The Overton window is shifting.

Petty, throwback groups like the National Party are dead on arrival. But we will see established political parties shifting away from the left liberal 'open borders' extremism which has dominated policy for the past 50 years. The recent elections in Austria have demonstrated this, and even in Germany the likes of the CSU are shifting towards a more realistic appraisal of the benefits of mass migrations.

Ireland is decades behind that curve. The Poles are too. But the Polish are very clear that they don't want a domestic Islamic terrorist problem, and the best way to avoid that is to avoid a large domestic Islamic population. Irish people - if ever asked - would completely agree. No one ever looks at the UK or French urban areas which are increasingly non-UK and non-French and think this is something we want. And no matter how 'right on' they are, no party runs a campaign promising to hugely change the shared identity of a state in just a few decades.