city square

Deiseen · 03-11-2017 12:23am

Thanks for that, looks pretty good! Has much been done on the streets yet as thats been marked for touching up as well hasnt it?

03-11-2017 12:29am

Deiseen wrote: »

Thanks for that, looks pretty good! Has much been done on the streets yet as thats been marked for touching up as well hasnt it?

Complete redevelopment of the streets as well, new paving, road surface and layout all in progress.

Its the next phase of the city redevelopment

Deiseen · 03-11-2017 12:31am

914 wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

Thanks for that, looks pretty good! Has much been done on the streets yet as thats been marked for touching up as well hasnt it?

Complete redevelopment of the streets as well, new paving, road surface and layout all in progress.

Its the next phase of the city redevelopment

Long overdue! Hopefully it will look respectable for Christmas.

03-11-2017 12:34am

Deiseen wrote: »

Long overdue! Hopefully it will look respectable for Christmas.

Hopefully, thats the plan anyway but I wouldn't hold my breath, these things always have a habbit of running late.

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2017 6:47am

sillysocks wrote:

Took this about 1/2 weeks ago. It looks better in real life than the photo and so much better than before. This is a photo of where the Brasserie used to be. While I was there I heard a bulder telling someone TK Maxx was going in where the old Burger King was but no idea how true that is.

That's a pity if it's true, I prefer where it is

JohnC. · 03-11-2017 12:05pm

They’ve assembled what appears to be Santa’s grotto upstairs, so it looks like people will be allowed up soon, even if the restaurants aren’t open.

Jamie2k9 · 03-11-2017 12:24pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

That's a pity if it's true, I prefer where it is

I don't with the idiots parking along the road there.

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2017 12:27pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

I don't with the idiots parking along the road there.

parking within the city centre actually puts me off from going in there, having the ability to park in tesco for free has been good to date, unfortunately thats also changing now

davyboy1975 · 03-11-2017 12:28pm

Lots of rumours centre will be some size if true ðŸ˜œ

I heard penneys are putting their childrens department in there.

Truth is no one knows whats happening yet

BBM77 · 03-11-2017 12:55pm

davyboy1975 wrote: »

Lots of rumours centre will be some size if true &#55357;&#56860;

I heard penneys are putting their childrens department in there.

Truth is no one knows whats happening yet

Absolutely, the one about Dunnes sounds like a load of bull to me.

Jamie2k9 · 03-11-2017 1:07pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

parking within the city centre actually puts me off from going in there, having the ability to park in tesco for free has been good to date, unfortunately thats also changing now

and when those charges come in it will be 100 times worse, there are already people parking both sides of that road.

Council need to sent out somebody to clamp.

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2017 1:08pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

and when those charges come in it will be 100 times worse, there are already people parking both sides of that road.

Council need to sent out somebody to clamp.

or maybe reduce council parking fees in the area, possibly making them free during certain times?

Jamie2k9 · 03-11-2017 1:22pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

or maybe reduce council parking fees in the area, possibly making them free during certain times?

When considering Tesco is free now and people are that lazy to walk a few steps what difference would it make.

Max Powers · 03-11-2017 1:57pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

parking within the city centre actually puts me off from going in there, having the ability to park in tesco for free has been good to date, unfortunately thats also changing now

So you don't want to pay for parking, if so,I can't understand that, expecting something for nothing.as we stand, we have reasonable rates and an abundance of spaces, especially since gasworks opened.

JohnC. · 03-11-2017 3:01pm

People parking is a disgrace. It’s the same out at Smyths, with people parking on the cycle lane even if Smyths isn’t full. And if Smyths is full, there’s another large car park next to it which I’ve never seen full. Much of the cycle lane on the Quays is a car park too. And Kaiser St. even after bollards were put up. People are just lazy.

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2017 3:09pm

Max Powers wrote: »

So you don't want to pay for parking, if so,I can't understand that, expecting something for nothing.as we stand, we have reasonable rates and an abundance of spaces, especially since gasworks opened.

its a fair point, but i actually dont think im alone, a lot of people have been parking in tesco and not actually shopping there, since it opened. i actually think the metering might have a negative effect on their business. i think im right in saying, all other tesco car parks are free in the town? an interesting question, are shoppers not already paying enough in taxation? incentifying shoppers by giving them 'free' parking, might help, maybe! maybe, we should offer free parking, but enforce rules by methods such as clamping?

Max Powers · 03-11-2017 3:11pm

JohnC. wrote: »

People parking is a disgrace. It’s the same out at Smyths, with people parking on the cycle lane even if Smyths isn’t full. And if Smyths is full, there’s another large car park next to it which I’ve never seen full. Much of the cycle lane on the Quays is a car park too. And Kaiser St. even after bollards were put up. People are just lazy.

Lazy and pig ignorant....driving around town yesterday, bit of traffic as it was 5ish, would be alright except for idiots driving into yellow box when it was obvious they'd block people coming in left/right side of offending driver.came across another 2 hold ups purely down to dopes on double yellows, blocking one side off road. All around ballybricken area, would have been busy but fine except for these 3.anyway, this thread isn't about driving so...city square ey.

Max Powers · 03-11-2017 3:30pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

its a fair point, but i actually dont think im alone, a lot of people have been parking in tesco and not actually shopping there, since it opened. i actually think the metering might have a negative effect on their business. i think im right in saying, all other tesco car parks are free in the town? an interesting question, are shoppers not already paying enough in taxation? incentifying shoppers by giving them 'free' parking, might help, maybe! maybe, we should offer free parking, but enforce rules by methods such as clamping?

so you want free parking, tesco has nowt to do with it.Wanderer, you don't get stuff for free this life, it all has to be paid for one way or another.tesco can do what they like, its private property.Practically every city in the world, you pay for public parking, you might have heard of some free for hour or two initiative somewhere but that stuff is generally temporary and limited.I can't understand this attitude of wanting free stuff or not realising stuff needs to be paid for.what's also disturbing is frankly silly talk like I'm not going into town because I have to put a few euros into parking machine.half joking but If parking was free, some would be looking for petrol money to come in.

If you want to keep your city in business keep your business in your city.

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2017 3:35pm

Max Powers wrote: »

so you want free parking, tesco has nowt to do with it.Wanderer, you don't get stuff for free this life, it all has to be paid for one way or another.tesco can do what they like, its private property.Practically every city in the world, you pay for public parking, you might have heard of some free for hour or two initiative somewhere but that stuff is generally temporary and limited.I can't understand this attitude of wanting free stuff or not realising stuff needs to be paid for.what's also disturbing is frankly silly talk like I'm not going into town because I have to put a few euros into parking machine.half joking but If parking was free, some would be looking for petrol money to come in.

If you want to keep your city in business keep your business in your city.

good points again, but again, are shoppers not paying enough in taxes already? or maybe we should invest more in public transport to encourage people out of their cars and into the city? its also important to note, the word 'free' has changed its meaning over time;)

CeilingFly · 03-11-2017 3:44pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

good points again, but again, are shoppers not paying enough in taxes already? or maybe we should invest more in public transport to encourage people out of their cars and into the city? its also important to note, the word 'free' has changed its meaning over time;)

Actually those earning under €34,000 a year pay the LOWEST average tax rates in Europe.

In any case it is proven time and time again that free parking only attracts all day parkers. In Naas, they finally did away with free parking on Saturdays because by 9.30am every space was taken up. - And it was the businesses who wanted the reintroduction.

A fair parking rate will never deter shoppers, because the advantages of having a fair parking charge is ease of parking because spaces are not taken up by all day parkers.

Wanderer78 · 03-11-2017 3:47pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Actually those earning under €34,000 a year pay the LOWEST average tax rates in Europe.

In any case it is proven time and time again that free parking only attracts all day parkers. In Naas, they finally did away with free parking on Saturdays because by 9.30am every space was taken up. - And it was the businesses who wanted the reintroduction.

A fair parking rate will never deter shoppers, because the advantages of having a fair parking charge is ease of parking because spaces are not taken up by all day parkers.

more good points, please be aware, im not just talking about direct taxation but more so, indirect taxation such as vat etc. maybe parking can be somehow linked to people that actually purchase, to encourage shopping?

Max Powers · 03-11-2017 3:51pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

good points again, but again, are shoppers not paying enough in taxes already? or maybe we should invest more in public transport to encourage people out of their cars and into the city? its also important to note, the word 'free' has changed its meaning over time;)

oul change the subject......That is completely different subject about public transport/free parking but short answer on taxes is a resounding NO, we don't pay enough taxes to provide free parking, we couldn't afford to provide and maintain stuff without paying for them like carpark charges.the evidence of this is in practically every city in the world.at the end of this wanderer, are you gonna put a couple euros in the parking machine and support your city centre and drop these fantasies of free (at the point) parking....or tell us which other taxes they should increase to pay for this magic free stuff.

Deiseen · 03-11-2017 4:06pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

CeilingFly wrote: »

Actually those earning under €34,000 a year pay the LOWEST average tax rates in Europe.

In any case it is proven time and time again that free parking only attracts all day parkers. In Naas, they finally did away with free parking on Saturdays because by 9.30am every space was taken up. - And it was the businesses who wanted the reintroduction.

A fair parking rate will never deter shoppers, because the advantages of having a fair parking charge is ease of parking because spaces are not taken up by all day parkers.

more good points, please be aware, im not just talking about direct taxation but more so, indirect taxation such as vat etc. maybe parking can be somehow linked to people that actually purchase, to encourage shopping?

Where I live, on street parking is about €2.20 an hour with no all day deals or any of that carry on. Parking in Waterford is basically free. Stop complaining.

Harry Palmr · 03-11-2017 5:14pm

Parking should be free for two hours with a ticket to prove the start time. That way you deter the all-dayers but give those who want to have long lunch or a proper shop a decent shake. Remember that car could be spending a few hundred euro as easily as be nipping into the hairdressers to spend €12-15.

JohnC. · 06-11-2017 7:21am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

its a fair point, but i actually dont think im alone, a lot of people have been parking in tesco and not actually shopping there, since it opened. i actually think the metering might have a negative effect on their business. i think im right in saying, all other tesco car parks are free in the town?

I'm sure Tesco shoppers do get to park free. There's something on the signs. I'm not 100% sure on the details, but something like people spending at least €10 get a parking refund for up to 2 hours.

Wanderer78 · 06-11-2017 8:59am

JohnC. wrote:

I'm sure Tesco shoppers do get to park free. There's something on the signs. I'm not 100% sure on the details, but something like people spending at least â‚¬10 get a parking refund for up to 2 hours.

I do believe you 're correct, I suspect they've had enough of non-customers parking there, it's a pity, as I'm sure it works well for other businesses

Richmond Ultra · 13-11-2017 7:26pm

Next location for the Brian Lee franchise enterprise.

CeilingFly · 13-11-2017 7:52pm

Richmond Ultra wrote: »

Next location for the Brian Lee franchise enterprise.

I think most people know Chopped was likely to move into the foodcourt.

fricatus · 24-11-2017 9:34am

The food court on the right upstairs looked practically ready to open when I was in there last week... any firm word on what's going into the various new units now?

Max Powers · 24-11-2017 1:16pm

fricatus wrote: »

The food court on the right upstairs looked practically ready to open when I was in there last week... any firm word on what's going into the various new units now?

Nothing except chopped

Deiseen · 24-11-2017 1:41pm

Max Powers wrote: »

fricatus wrote: »

The food court on the right upstairs looked practically ready to open when I was in there last week... any firm word on what's going into the various new units now?

Nothing except chopped

Is the food court a bit of a flop?

davyboy1975 · 24-11-2017 1:44pm

They are charging ridiculous prices for those glass retail units in there. The smallest one works out at just about 17k a year

Gavlor · 24-11-2017 2:25pm

davyboy1975 wrote: »

They are charging ridiculous prices for those glass retail units in there. The smallest one works out at just about 17k a year

That’s a lot of left handed scissors

SweetCaliber · 30-11-2017 1:51am

Max Powers wrote: »

Nothing except chopped

Kylemore are going back in there also.

Max Powers · 30-11-2017 8:28am

PTH2009 wrote: »

pales in comparison too food courts in other shopping centres

wheres the KFC, Nandos, Burger King, Pizza bar etc

General cafe/food like kylemore probably a good fit for the demand.Kfc out dunmore road, pizza hut opening .I wouldn't be bothered personally about other two, much rather see something different like chopped then a mediocre burger place.there will be other announcements too as more space than before.having said that I wouldn't be surprised to see BK back in there upstairs, it was always busy in previous place.

mooseknunkle · 30-11-2017 12:20pm

Max Powers wrote: »

General cafe/food like kylemore probably a good fit for the demand.Kfc out dunmore road, pizza hut opening near Odeon, .I wouldn't be bothered personally about other two, much rather see something different like chopped then a mediocre burger place.there will be other announcements too as more space than before.having said that I wouldn't be surprised to see BK back in there upstairs, it was always busy in previous place.

Where are pizza hut opening ?

Deiseen · 30-11-2017 12:23pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Max Powers wrote: »

General cafe/food like kylemore probably a good fit for the demand.Kfc out dunmore road, pizza hut opening near Odeon, .I wouldn't be bothered personally about other two, much rather see something different like chopped then a mediocre burger place.there will be other announcements too as more space than before.having said that I wouldn't be surprised to see BK back in there upstairs, it was always busy in previous place.

Where are pizza hut opening ?

Railway square

mooseknunkle · 30-11-2017 12:57pm

Deiseen wrote: »

Railway square

At the front in those empty units?

Flow Motion · 30-11-2017 5:10pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Where are pizza hut opening ?

I'd prefer it if a branch of 'Milano' was opening in Waterford and not a Pizza Hut.

Jamie2k9 · 30-11-2017 5:26pm

Chopped is a place you will go once and never return. €6 for a basic sandwich.

MartyMcFly84 · 30-11-2017 5:36pm

I'd prefer it if a branch of 'Milano' was opening in Waterford and not a Pizza Hut.

Yeah, we can finally put our Tesco points to good use

lassykk · 30-11-2017 5:44pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Yeah, we can finally put our Tesco points to good use

I'd settle for a TGIs myself

MartyMcFly84 · 30-11-2017 5:54pm

Chopped is a place you will go once and never return. €6 for a basic sandwich.

The main premise of chopped is salads. I dont there are sandwiches on the menu.

You might be able to get a wrap. But its 90% chopped salads.

I would go close to once a week in Dublin. Its a great healthy option for lunch or dinner on the go, an alternative to the sandwich.

mooseknunkle · 30-11-2017 6:07pm

Flow Motion wrote: »

I'd prefer it if a branch of 'Milano' was opening in Waterford and not a Pizza Hut.

Id prefer a local independant shop that does a nice pizza,there's less than a handful of decent places in town to get a good pizza..

iseegirls · 30-11-2017 6:44pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Id prefer a local independant shop that does a nice pizza,there's less than a handful of decent places in town to get a good pizza..

I'd imagine the high prices that City Square are looking for, there would very little chance of an independent and local restaurant going in there.

Also if they are not getting anyone to fill those small units across from JD Sports in December, then they'll have no hope filling it from January onwards.

Dissapointed that Kylemore are going back there of true. It's literally just a rearrangement of the furniture - Carrig Donn going in to where Burger King were. This is it's third move in as many years. Hoping that it's a big store going into the main new unit.

dartboardio · 30-11-2017 8:45pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Id prefer a local independant shop that does a nice pizza,there's less than a handful of decent places in town to get a good pizza..

Burzza do a mean pizza, as does Antichi Sapori, espresso. I suppose for day time there's not much though

CeilingFly · 30-11-2017 9:04pm

davyboy1975 wrote: »

They are charging ridiculous prices for those glass retail units in there. The smallest one works out at just about 17k a year

I know someone that looked at the unit next to holland and Barrett

48k rent
14k rates
18k service charge

They just laughed.

Max Powers · 30-11-2017 10:27pm

dartboardio wrote: »

Burzza do a mean pizza, as does Antichi Sapori, espresso. I suppose for day time there's not much though

Ginos open during day, Italian on quay and an Italian on high street right outside city square, all nice.we're ok for Italian options IMO

iseegirls · 30-11-2017 10:41pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

I know someone that looked at the unit next to holland and Barrett

48k rent
14k rates
18k service charge

They just laughed.

And that unit has been empty for about 6-7 years now since Next left. Imagine if they got a bit more realistic with the price of where the unit is - under the main stairs, and very little window display - that they could have had a tenant there.

dartboardio · 30-11-2017 11:01pm

Max Powers wrote: »

Ginos open during day, Italian on quay and an Italian on high street right outside city square, all nice.we're ok for Italian options IMO

Where's the italian on the Quay? Antichi Sapori is the one right outside City Square btw, forgot about Ginos. Mmmm Ginos

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