Tesla Model S import VRT?

Any idea what the car would sell for here? If you do, that would give you an approximate answer. Let's for a moment assume that the OMSP here is €50k

Then the VRT is 14% of €50k = €7k minus the €5k VRT discount for EVs, so just €2k. Not bad, what?

If the OMSP is €60k (surely not more as a brand new one is not that much over €80k), then the VRT payable is €3.4k

This thread is symbolic of most of my daydreams at the moment.
I'm aiming to purchase an AP1 equipped CPO model S85 in 12-18 months assuming I have got my ppr sorted by then. Banks don't like you taking out finance when in the mortgage approval process.

I would get a quote in writing (email) from NCTS (VRT) before importing, just to make sure there are no nasty surprises.

Would Tesla Ireland have imported any used Model S from the UK when they set up shop here? If they have they might be able to give you an idea of the VRT. Might be worth a phone call to them at least.

unkel wrote: »

Any idea what the car would sell for here? If you do, that would give you an approximate answer. Let's for a moment assume that the OMSP here is €50k

Then the VRT is 14% of €50k = €7k minus the €5k VRT discount for EVs, so just €2k. Not bad, what?

If the OMSP is €60k (surely not more as a brand new one is not that much over €80k), then the VRT payable is €3.4k

I thought it was VRT free up to 35K, then 14% on the balance?
I'm not sure but it might have changed

Well wear!

A lot of us in here are jealous

Any details on the car and how much did you end up paying for it?

macnab wrote: »

Funny this came up today, I picked up a Tesla Model S 85 earlier. Its 142 Reg. The VRT bill was €4399 when it was imported some time this year.

Do you have some paperwork for the VRT? Do you know which depreciation class revenue assigned to it?

Well wear indeed!
There's been a few for sale, including the one for 55k in Dublin that's pre-AP. And then some from dealers etc.

A lot of jealousy on the forum today I suspect, from myself aswell!

Nice to know about the VRT bill. It means there is a stat code now on the system for model s which will aid future grey imports

unkel wrote: »

I wonder how come the VRT can be calculated on this pay for site, while there are no Teslas yet on the official VRT calculator?

Maybe this site just uses some algorithm to estimate VRT? If so, is that any good?

Official VRT Calculator linky

There's none on the calculator but if someone has brought one in already (as the poster said there was a VRT invoice/bill he saw) that means there is an existing statistical code within revenue when someone brings in another.

Even if it's not on the website.
4500 odd VRT would point to a lower than expected OMSP sale price and/or a higher depreciation allowance. All my (back of a fag pack) calculations had the VRT closer to 9k than 4.

grogi wrote: »

The OMSP for a 142 Model S 85D was ~€67150. How much did you estimate the OMSP to get VRT of 9k?! €100000 ?

Yes I used 100k. There was a time when the SIMI dealers were purposely listing older tesla models at 80-100k to inflate the VRT.

Where do you see the OMSP listed?

grogi wrote: »

OMSP = (VRT-paid + €5000) / 0.14 = €9399 / 0.14 = €67136

But that's not the OMSP, strictly speaking it's the OMSP less the allowable depreciation.

It's the allowable depreciation that I neglected to include in my calculations hence the inflated figures.

Ok, there's two.
"Open Market Selling Price (OMSP) determined by Revenue"
and "Current OMSP determined by Revenue"

I guess it's easier to look at the second, although there is a corelation - as the second is determined by the first, less "Rate of Depreciation for this Vehicle"

spyderski wrote: »

Are you serious? That’s outrageous if true...

Yes, Frank Keane and another of the big groups were at it. Listing two and three year old Model S with high mileage for more than a new one to juke the OMSP.

Since Tesla came to Sandyford they've been talking to Revenue to undo the damage.
It's an unusual situation, usually there's a SIMI member associated with the manufacturer or with some kind of incentive to control the OMSP.
In this case all SIMI members had the opposite incentive and Tesla didn't have a local presence.

la ultima guagua wrote: »

Well Done ! - This is great news

Can you let us know from time to time how things go

For myself two things that come to mind straight off are

- How do insurance companies view this car

- What do you have to do to get access to Teslas chargers

Plug in ! The car will be identified by Tesla automatically.

I'm interested also in the insurance question

Plates365.com wrote: »

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread. Just FYI you can get a Tesla VRT estimate here now..... https://www.vrt.ie/home/vrt-motor-tax-calculator/independent-vrt-calculator/

Cheeky backstards charging a fiver for info that really Revenue ought to be providing for free.

Note the word "estimate" too; quote is not binding, so little more than a useful indicator.

Hey guys, been wondering how is it to own Tesla in Ireland in 2017/18, do we have free super-charges around the town, how will on-air-update work in Ireland if car is imported from UK, I suppose it uses 3G connection, does it have to be in UK to update?. Also how challenging is to repair the car here, are there any garages which take it?

Its great peach of technology and I foresee not problems with service and support if you buy it here new, but what if one to import it from UK, do you have to go to UK every time it needs something done?. Also always been curious if any electric car run out of charge in the middle of the road, is there a AA type to recovery with supercharger, or it has to be towed all the time?

There are 8 stall superchargers in Ballacolla and Birdhill. Another two are under construction along the M1 near Castlebellingham (northbound and southbound).

You can find more information here: https://supercharge.info/

Denisoftus wrote: »

Can you use autopilot in here, and if you can what's the crack with using mobile phone?

Autosteer works great. It keeps a certain distance from the car in front (you can choose from 7 set distances) and keeps the car pretty much in the middle of the lane. Even if it doesn't detect one edge it works. It can also change the speed automatically depending on the speed limit.

You can use an app to see the location of your car, see your range and odometer, get charging notices, see and set the temperature in the car, flash the lights, honk the horn, lock and unlock your car and even start and summon it. The app will also notify you if there are any updates to the car.

la ultima guagua wrote: »

- How do insurance companies view this car

I can chime in on that one, I know for a fact (as I asked them to quote me) that Liberty Insurance utterly refuse to quote the Tesla (specifically) or any Electric Car (in general).

Dear Mr X,

Thank you for your email dated 4th October 2017

Unfortunately we do not provide insurance for electric cars.

If there are any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.


Kind Regards
Sonia Gilroy
Administration Department
Private Lines
Liberty Insurance

I was pretty gobsmacked, Insurance is a legal requirement, Liberty are regulated as a Insurance provider but can elect not to provide any for an entire class of vehicle while the government is actively trying to promote said (electric) vehicles. :eek:

Matt Simis wrote: »

I can chime in on that one, I know for a fact (as I asked them to quote me) that Liberty Insurance utterly refuse to quote the Tesla (specifically) or any Electric Car (in general).




I was pretty gobsmacked, Insurance is a legal requirement, Liberty are regulated as a Insurance provider but can elect not to provide any for an entire class of vehicle while the government is actively trying to promote said (electric) vehicles. :eek:

Well that's a load of BS from them. I was insured for 18 months in an i3 with them before changing this year.

air wrote: »

How are you managing with the width of the car?
I find the BMW F10 quite unwieldy on narrow Irish roads and the S is 10cm wider.

It's a little but wider than I would have liked (about 20 cm wider than my previous car) , so there are some roads I tend to avoid now but I can get around them without going too far out of my way.

It's fine on most roads where I ususually drive.

I think if you're used to driving a wide car you'll be fine. Just take it a bit easy where you know the roads are narrow and you have traffic coming towards you.

unkel wrote: »

I'd be very careful before you sign up with the likes of liberty or any of these discount insurance companies. Liberty kills your no claims bonus if your car gets stolen through no fault of your own. A decent insurance company wouldn't do that.

Discount insurance? . Liberty charge me €2450 a year. I'm only with them as no one else will accept my NZ driving experience as I was out if the country for nearly 4yrs. Even the AA, who were also my insurer in NZ..