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Perfectstorm · 15-10-2017 05:07PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

Is it true we now have €750 towards a court case or appeal as part of the fund cover.

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Yeah, to help with issues on firearms renewals

richiedel123 · 15-10-2017 08:49PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

Is it true we now have €750 towards a court case or appeal as part of the fund cover.

Heard about the hens alright. Still no harm talking about it it's what AGMS are for.

Have to say i think this is a great idea. It's a huge help for somebody who ends up in this situation through on fault of their own. It's great to give services to members like this

Backbarrel · 24-10-2017 09:50PM

So, did anyone at the AGM find out what the obsession was with 15th December 2017 for Dublin resolutions?:D

Did anyone find out why Darth Fiscal couldn't spend an extra €20K on the national clay shoot like others did previously?:D

Did anyone find out what "be careful on the way home lads" meant?;)

Did anyone find out how much was collected for charity this year?

cavan shooter · 25-10-2017 07:55AM

Backbarrel wrote: »

So, did anyone at the AGM find out what the obsession was with 15th December 2017 for Dublin resolutions?:D

Did anyone find out why Darth Fiscal couldn't spend an extra €20K on the national clay shoot like others did previously?:D

Did anyone find out what "be careful on the way home lads" meant?;)

Did anyone find out how much was collected for charity this year?

The 15th December is National Tea Day.

I heard the savings is quite good and there was a failed attempt to get the Treasurer by saying his savings are false as he didn't put the clay subcommittee cost under that category. 20K for a sub committee is a long stretch.

I did hear the cops where set up on the road right outside the hotel breathalising everyone leaving.

Haven't a clue about the charity stuff,

Our Delegates said it was a fairly benign event everything was run of the mill. The Dublin and Kildare "divilment" was non existent as usual they couldn't get off the blocks.

Does anyone know when the County by County meetings are going to happen with the National Chairman and the Executive. If its true thats a great idea, finally the unwashed get to talk to the head sheds.

Resistance is futile · 25-10-2017 01:45PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

The 15th December is National Tea Day.

I heard the savings is quite good and there was a failed attempt to get the Treasurer by saying his savings are false as he didn't put the clay subcommittee cost under that category. 20K for a sub committee is a long stretch.

I did hear the cops where set up on the road right outside the hotel breathalising everyone ileaving.

Haven't a clue about the charity stuff,

Our Delegates said it was a fairly benign event everything was run of the mill. The Dublin and Kildare "divilment" was non existent as usual they couldn't get off the blocks.

Does anyone know when the County by County meetings are going to happen with the National Chairman and the Executive. If its true thats a great idea, finally the unwashed get to talk to the head sheds.

I heard from a guy in leitrim that if any club or county wants the chairman and his committee down they only have to ask,but they won't be ordered to go anywhere , he seems an approachable enough fella . There was a big round of applause at the laser shoot making money . Nobody thought it possible

cavan shooter · 25-10-2017 05:25PM

Resistance is futile wrote: »

I heard from a guy in leitrim that if any club or county wants the chairman and his committee down they only have to ask,but they won't be ordered to go anywhere , he seems an approachable enough fella . There was a big round of applause at the laser shoot making money . Nobody thought it possible

I heard something similar it was the topic of conversation on Sunday at a clay shoot. Some County executives are blocking it from happening....leave you to guess what Counties.

Resistance is futile · 25-10-2017 06:08PM

Was the 15 th something to do with the recent Irish rail vote as well . I heard that a lot of clubs in Dublin had no idea about the motion to leave and changes may be afoot

berettaman · 25-10-2017 06:52PM

Backbarrel wrote: »

So, did anyone at the AGM find out what the obsession was with 15th December 2017 for Dublin resolutions?:D

Did anyone find out why Darth Fiscal couldn't spend an extra €20K on the national clay shoot like others did previously?:D

Did anyone find out what "be careful on the way home lads" meant?;)

Did anyone find out how much was collected for charity this year?

15th December is the last day everyone can be expected to be sober before Christmas...?

Treasurer is not in the habit of wasting funds. Good to see the contribution to the national Caly shoot reduced.

"Be careful on the way home" is like Moe in the the Simpsons.."I am a well wisher in that I don't wish you any specific harm.."

Collection on the night was rounded up to 2K for Galway Simon Community. Very good.

Perfectstorm · 25-10-2017 07:18PM

Backbarrel wrote: »

So, did anyone at the AGM find out what the obsession was with 15th December 2017 for Dublin

Was it to give those from outside the pale time to recover from the shopping trip in the 8th.

Perfectstorm · 25-10-2017 07:22PM

Resistance is futile wrote: »

Was the 15 th something to do with the recent Irish rail vote as well . I heard that a lot of clubs in Dublin had no idea about the motion to leave and changes may be afoot

I heard the exact opposite. .they all knew and are fuming with the Gov body. .

cavan shooter · 25-10-2017 08:38PM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

Resistance is futile wrote: »

Was the 15 th something to do with the recent Irish rail vote as well . I heard that a lot of clubs in Dublin had no idea about the motion to leave and changes may be afoot

I heard the exact opposite. .they all knew and are fuming with the Gov body. .

I'd say then that's the first County for a meeting. Let some Dublin Clubs invite the Chair and the Executive to a ......let's call it a...."Clarification meeting" or to give it the full title:
" An open meeting to clarify the **** you've been pumped with by the few who don't seem to be listening to the many"
Actually do it in Lucan and sure invite Kildare. ..that will save money....happy days. ..value added. Let the meeting happen let the Clubs put the questions to the National Executive.

Resistance is futile · 25-10-2017 10:05PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

I'd say then that's the first County for a meeting. Let some Dublin Clubs invite the Chair and the Executive to a ......let's call it a...."Clarification meeting" or to give it the full title:
" An open meeting to clarify the **** you've been pumped with by the few who don't seem to be listening to the many"
Actually do it in Lucan and sure invite Kildare. ..that will save money....happy days. ..value dadded. Let the meeting happen let the Clubs put the questions to the National Executive.

At least it would perhaps clear the air . This toxic situation amongst supposedly like minded people isn't doing anyone any good . The more it continues the more the membership suffers and the competing organizations rub their hands with glee . People within need to concentrate more on their own organization than about people who have set themselves outside and against it. Oiche Mhaith

Perfectstorm · 26-10-2017 06:43PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

I'd say then that's the first County for a meeting. Let some Dublin Clubs invite the Chair and the Executive to a ......let's call it a...."Clarification meeting" or to give it the full title:
" An open meeting to clarify the **** you've been pumped with by the few who don't seem to be listening to the many"

Don't see that approach working too well...how about let's try and figure out what we do agree on and seperately explain both sides of the row.

wirehairmax · 26-10-2017 07:57PM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

Don't see that approach working too well...how about let's try and figure out what we do agree on and seperately explain both sides of the row.

Why wouldn't you welcome an open meeting in Dublin so members can have their questions answered and clear the air? Nothing to hide is there?

Resistance is futile · 26-10-2017 09:02PM

wirehairmax wrote: »

Perfectstorm wrote: »

Why wouldn't you welcome an open meeting in Dublin so members can have their questions answered and clear the air? Nothing to hide is there?

Are these things/motions /proposals not discussed with the clubs for their approval before the AGM ? I think they are in most RGCs . Indeed the bulk of proposals in most counties I'm in contact with come exclusively from the clubs otherwise the tail is wagging the dog

cavan shooter · 26-10-2017 09:43PM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

cavan shooter wrote: »

I'd say then that's the first County for a meeting. Let some Dublin Clubs invite the Chair and the Executive to a ......let's call it a...."Clarification meeting" or to give it the full title:
" An open meeting to clarify the **** you've been pumped with by the few who don't seem to be listening to the many"

Don't see that approach working too well...how about let's try and figure out what we do agree on and seperately explain both sides of the row.

I recon the open meetings with all the club's will allow that debate. Ring the National Chairman and organise the meeting. From what I hear he is not the bogeyman and actually is very approachable the money man will be with him. I chatted to him in Birr and be honest he was down to earth and answered any questions I put to him.

Perfectstorm · 26-10-2017 09:46PM

wirehairmax wrote: »

Perfectstorm wrote: »

Why wouldn't you welcome an open meeting in Dublin so members can have their questions answered and clear the air? Nothing to hide is there?

I was referring to the full title given to the meeting above

Perfectstorm · 26-10-2017 09:48PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

Perfectstorm wrote: »

I recon the open meetings with all the club's will allow that debate. Ring the National Chairman and organise the meeting. From what I hear he is not the bogeyman and actually is very approachable the money man will be with him. I chatted to him in Birr and be honest he was down to earth and answered any questions I put to him.

Am sure the chairman will be on to rgc's if he hasn't been already to organise all the meetings around the country

wirehairmax · 26-10-2017 09:49PM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

wirehairmax wrote: »

I was referring to the full title given to the meeting above

I’d say it’s quite an apt title actually

Backbarrel · 29-10-2017 11:15PM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

cavan shooter wrote: »

Am sure the chairman will be on to rgc's if he hasn't been already to organise all the meetings around the country

That is an interesting idea but I think it is better if regions themselves invite the Chairman/Exec down to meet and greet.

Looking at some of the resolutions before the AGM I think it is high time that some of them do. There is obviously a disconnect somewhere along the line. I am not saying he is everyones cup of tea but given the changes in the Association over the last 3 years I think the Association is in good shape.

Where do the misgivings come from? If there are questions then bring them down and quiz them. Ye would have nothing to lose.

cavan shooter · 01-11-2017 01:51PM

Backbarrel wrote: »

Perfectstorm wrote: »

That is an interesting idea but I think it is better if regions themselves invite the Chairman/Exec down to meet and greet.

Looking at some of the resolutions before the AGM I think it is high time that some of them do. There is obviously a disconnect somewhere along the line. I am not saying he is everyones cup of tea but given the changes in the Association over the last 3 years I think the Association is in good shape.

Where do the misgivings come from? If there are questions then bring them down and quiz them. Ye would have nothing to lose.

From what i have been told there are many Clubs trying to get these meet and greets in RGC's but they are being stopped by the Executives in the Counties. Or as a mate of mine said the letter that's actually sent is re worded and instead of come down and have a chat its worded as a threat and an ultimatum demanding the appearance of the National Executive to appear and answer questions to the County executive.

Then when thats raised at the County meeting the answer is we have asked and the spin on them is that they refused.

grassroot1 · 02-11-2017 10:19PM

As a matter of course each RGC should request a visit from the Executive they are there to represent our interests and it is incumbent on us to ensure they know our views.
Conversely the executive should visit each RGC to see that everything is OK the one thing that kills our association is that members feel a disconnect between the executive and the club member.
I also think the rather than being an island RGC'S should have regular meetings with one another. why wouldn't Wexford RGC hold a joint meeting with Kilkenny or Carlow to discuss matters that are relevant to both. Maybe a game rearing/predator control seminar with the cost divided between both.We are all part of the one team just the same.
Except the hurling I don't think the Yellowbellies and the Cats can see eye to eye there!!!

Resistance is futile · 04-11-2017 01:08PM

Talking to a delegate last night and he tells me he received more unsolicited post last night and in it there was a copy of somebody's legal action in it . Surely that kind of information shouldn't be winging its way into people's letter boxes by standard post. The Present chairman wasn't even in charge when most of this stuff happened so why isn't the chairman and executive of the day, which the sender of this mail was a member under the gun for this ? And who's paying for all these stamps . Have any of you ever sent a letter to someone and misspelled your own address

grassroot1 · 04-11-2017 01:26PM

Resistance is futile wrote: »

Talking to a delegate last night and he tells me he received more unsolicited post last night and in it there was a copy of somebody's legal action in it . Surely that kind of information shouldn't be winging its way into people's letter boxes by standard post. The Present chairman wasn't even in charge when most of this stuff happened so why isn't the chairman and executive of the day, which the sender of this mail was a member under the gun for this ? And who's paying for all these stamps . Have any of you ever sent a letter to someone and misspelled your own address

ya got that pile of BS highly inaccurate and ghost written. Don't put any pass in it.
F him I am going shooting now that's more important

Backbarrel · 04-11-2017 01:45PM

Resistance is futile wrote: »

Talking to a delegate last night and he tells me he received more unsolicited post last night and in it there was a copy of somebody's legal action in it . Surely that kind of information shouldn't be winging its way into people's letter boxes by standard post. The Present chairman wasn't even in charge when most of this stuff happened so why isn't the chairman and executive of the day, which the sender of this mail was a member under the gun for this ? And who's paying for all these stamps . Have any of you ever sent a letter to someone and misspelled your own address

This is a disgraceful, Highly inaccurate pile of sh1te.

What kind of person spells their own address wrong..?All credit to ghost writers..

Look, previous regime are gone..left a steaming pile behind them and now ye lambast the cleanup crew..

Good fkin riddance.

Not a good idea throwing legal papers around in ongoing case. oh well.

cavan shooter · 04-11-2017 01:58PM

I didn't see anything but I heard and it's not the first time this man circulated junk mail. I'm not a legal person, but I don't think a third person should circulate documents for a specific case that's sub judacae.

This seems to be a a desperate act of a desperate man that is loosing all credibility. He has lost all his dignity.

Resistance is futile · 04-11-2017 03:48PM

cavan shooter wrote: »

I didn't see anything but I heard and it's not the first time this man circulated junk mail. I'm not a legal person, but I don't think a third person should circulate documents for a specific case that's sub judacae.

This seems to be a a desperate act of a desperate man that is loosing all credibility. He has lost all his dignity.

The last sting of a dying wasp . If I was him I'd be tip toeing away from this hoping not to get a letter or two myself . The new P.R.O will hardly let this sit . He's foolish to be the mouth piece for those that are pushing and funding this agenda

Perfectstorm · 07-11-2017 09:04AM

The never ending row rumbles on...better not be yet another nargc funded court case out of this

wirehairmax · 07-11-2017 11:46AM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

The never ending row rumbles on...better not be yet another nargc funded court case out of this

It'll rumble on as long as there's **** stirrers ^^^^ and people with vested interests and alliances to the old regime who have only their own agenda to pursue and don't care about the health of the association or shooting and hunting in general.
The association has the right to defend itself against these people and has been proven to have the support of the vast majority of its members to do so.

wirehairmax · 07-11-2017 11:52AM

Perfectstorm wrote: »

The never ending row rumbles on...better not be yet another nargc funded court case out of this

It'll rumble on as long as there's **** stirrers ^^^^ and people with vested interests and alliances to the old regime who have only their own agenda to pursue and don't care about the health of the association or shooting and hunting in general.
The association has the right to defend itself against these people and has been proven to have the support of the vast majority of its members to do so.

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