NARGC

cavan shooter

berettaman wrote: »

The annual reports are handed out at the last Gov Body meeting before the AGM. The delegates for each county collect them.

If you have not received the annual report and the accounts then contact your delegates/county secretary and they will give them to you.

If you can't get any luck there then contact the NARGC directly. As a member you are entitled to have them.

In 2017, these should be available as a download in PDF of the website.
Cavan does give them out at a meeting in early October. In fairness 3/4 of them are left behind in the hall.

grassroot1

Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »

In my experience changing those "in charge" changes very little apart from who's on the gravy train.

Have to disagree with you on that one, I think the last 3 executives elected have changed quite a lot.

cavan shooter

Backbarrel wrote: »

Here is the rule for leaving.. Dear Nargc, I wish to leave..kind regards

Nargc says thanks ..off ya go..you do not get yer money back from fund. doesnt work like that.

That county should invite national executive down for an ask me anything session before deciding to leave.

maddest thing I ever heard.

Although.bird subsidy fund divided by 27 counties? on second thoughts ye should go for it!ðŸ˜

It will be very entertaining to be at the two meetings 30th Sept and the AGM on the 14th October. I guess that this is coming from the 5 Counties that got pistol whipped at the EGM which they insisted on calling then got rightly rogered at, gluttons for punishment, me thinks.

There is a standing precedent for Leaving, sure didn't Cork lads go and Kildare lads back in the day.

Its insulting and naive in the highest to think they should get a golden handshake to enable them to set up a rivals coffers, which clearly is what there at.

We live in a Democracy, and some people just cant seem to accept that, I've seen many things over the years 30+ in the NARGC and now when it seems to be trying to get back on track and focus on grassroots issues, some shower of Fuppets (cross between a muppet and a xxxhead) wants to derail it.

I wonder if the ordinary man on the shooting street in Dublin, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laoise or Cork know that there top table is thinking of pulling the plug from the NARGC and fine if they do and they got to a vote let them off as I said its happened before.

However to think they have a claim to the money paid in to cover there members on an annual basis if there was an accident,....well ring Aviva and ask them or ring VHI and ask them what the answer will be.

I'm going to ask our Chairman can I go to these meetings, I will sell pop corn and make a fortune.

grassroot1

Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »

In my experience the way NARGC is setup needs to change. The current regional approach means that the national setup are too far removed from the grassroots.

After many years involved in my club & region I now just pay up, get my card and go shooting

How can I get an Annual Report? Tried for years and never got one

Walter how did your delegates know what way they were to vote if you didnt see the resolutions in the annual report?

If anyone feels the executive are too far removed from the grassroots they should invite them to their RGC for a meeting and express there fears or wishes.

at least you would have a face to go with a name then.
As an IFA member I can expect to meet the national chair at least once a year the chair of the NARGC should be as available.

Walter Mittys Brother

grassroot1 wrote: »

Walter how did your delegates know what way they were to vote if you didnt see the resolutions in the annual report?

If anyone feels the executive are too far removed from the grassroots they should invite them to their RGC for a meeting and express there fears or wishes.

at least you would have a face to go with a name then.
As an IFA member I can expect to meet the national chair at least once a year the chair of the NARGC should be as available.

No idea.

A club/individual cannot invite national exec to RGC. RGC have to do that.

Nargc member has to go through channels

As I said already ............. needs streamlining

Grizzly 45

berettaman wrote: »

I believe things have changed and changed utterly. Hopefully there will be ample evidence of that shortly.

Or a YB Yates said on the internet one day "A terrible beauty is born":p

Backbarrel

Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »

No idea.

A club/individual cannot invite national exec to RGC. RGC have to do that.

Nargc member has to go through channels

As I said already ............. needs streamlining

Does your county meet to discuss resolutions and nominations before the agm?

How do the county delegates know which way You, the members want them to vote?

If two or three clubs asked for reps of the national exec to meet it would happen..no?

what grounds would an exec have to refuse?

sorry lads..info is overrated?

cavan shooter

Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »

grassroot1 wrote: »

Walter how did your delegates know what way they were to vote if you didnt see the resolutions in the annual report?

If anyone feels the executive are too far removed from the grassroots they should invite them to their RGC for a meeting and express there fears or wishes.

at least you would have a face to go with a name then.
As an IFA member I can expect to meet the national chair at least once a year the chair of the NARGC should be as available.

No idea.

A club/individual cannot invite national exec to RGC. RGC have to do that.

Nargc member has to go through channels

As I said already ............. needs streamlining

I'd say if clubs approach a County Executive and ask for a meeting with the National Executive, then the County Executive are duty bound to send out the invite.

If the County Executive says no; The Clubs are well within their right to go over the heads of the County Executive and seek the meeting.

Ask yourself why would a County Executive not invite in The National Lads If Clubs asked for it.

Perfectstorm

grassroot1 wrote: »

How could anyone question your motives?
You started posting last February and you only post in this thread, sure that's not odd at all

i dont think its odd either, we finally agree on something.it might be the start of a trend.:D

Perfectstorm

However to think they have a claim to the money paid in to cover there members on an annual basis if there was an accident,....well ring Aviva and ask them or ring VHI and ask them what the answer will be.

I'm going to ask our Chairman can I go to these meetings, I will sell pop corn and make a fortune.[/QUOTE]



how is the fund like aviva or the vhi?

i thought the fund was members money held together rather than an annual premium?

Perfectstorm

Walter Mittys Brother wrote: »

In my experience changing those "in charge" changes very little apart from who's on the gravy train.

in fairness to the people who volunteer to take up posts on the executive with the volume on work they could have it would want to be a lot of gravy and i dont think they get more than a sniff.

grassroot1

Perfectstorm wrote: »

i dont think its odd either, we finally agree on something.it might be the start of a trend.:D

Unlikely
Did you get out for a shot at the ducks?

Perfectstorm

grassroot1 wrote: »

Unlikely
Did you get out for a shot at the ducks?

Yep..couple of decent evening flights and yourself?

cavan shooter

Perfectstorm wrote: »

However to think they have a claim to the money paid in to cover there members on an annual basis if there was an accident,....well ring Aviva and ask them or ring VHI and ask them what the answer will be.

I'm going to ask our Chairman can I go to these meetings, I will sell pop corn and make a fortune.

how is the fund like aviva or the vhi?

i thought the fund was members money held together rather than an annual premium?[/quote]

You know what your right, I never thought of it that way. I'm ringing the Fund Administrator tomorrow I've been paying into the fund for 30 years and i'm moving to IFA countryside and I want my money back......Wonder what the answer will be??

I'm not sure if your Trolling or just don't understand how it works. Any County can leave but you don't get back the money that your members where putting in to cover if something was to happen.
It's not a savings account Lad, it's a fund put there to protect from an accident, you may be in 1 yr or 50 yes your treated the same. I can only speak about personal experience but whatever shut is going down with The NARGC you'll not beat the Fund for settling claims, no one can match it certainly not any of the Insurances that are out their.

grassroot1

Perfectstorm wrote: »

Yep..couple of decent evening flights and yourself?

Out twice missed 1 the first night didnt see anything the second night.

Perfectstorm

grassroot1 wrote: »

Out twice missed 1 the first night didnt see anything the second night.

Loads of time yet..some nice breeze a few evening ago got them moving nicely

Perfectstorm

cavan shooter wrote: »

how is the fund like aviva or the vhi?

i thought the fund was members money held together rather than an annual premium?

[/B]

You know what your right, I never thought of it that way. I'm ringing the Fund Administrator tomorrow I've been paying into the fund for 30 years and i'm moving to IFA countryside and I want my money back......Wonder what the answer will be??

I'm not sure if your Trolling or just don't understand how it works. Any County can leave but you don't get back the money that your members where putting in to cover if something was to happen.
It's not a savings account Lad, it's a fund put there to protect from an accident, you may be in 1 yr or 50 yes your treated the same. I can only speak about personal experience but whatever shut is going down with The NARGC you'll not beat the Fund for settling claims, no one can match it certainly not any of the Insurances that are out their.[/quote]



Trolling. ??? Anyone who has a view is trolling?

berettaman

Hi All,

I was saddened today to hear of the passing of former National Executive member Margaret Neile. She was a very committed member of the Association and ran the Association shop for many years. She was a stalwart of the Association at National and Kilkenny RGC level.

May she Rest in Peace.

Walter Mittys Brother

Didn't know her personally.

RIP

rossa boy

berettaman wrote: »

Hi All,

I was saddened today to hear of the passing of former National Executive member Margaret Neile. She was a very committed member of the Association and ran the Association shop for many years. She was a stalwart of the Association at National and Kilkenny RGC level.

May she Rest in Peace.

A major loss to the association.

RIP.

cavan shooter

Thats very sad, she must have been a brave age, condolences to her family friends and all that new her
Her death notice from the NARGC site is below:

https://nargc.ie/death-notice-2/

homerhop

She has been part of the NARGC for as long as I can remember. A lovely woman who would always have a smile for everyone she met. RIP.

Perfectstorm

always a sad day for an organisation when a well known and liked member passes away.

county delagate said the gb meeting held in the morning as quite short proably to allow people time to make their way to the funeral.

county delegate brought back the annual report pack.
few inserting motions. interesting to see the issue of a shortage of pheasants coming up
looks like the current executive are holding onto solid support in terms of the number of nominations they received, would expect to see them all returned based on the nominations.

Backbarrel

Perfectstorm wrote: »

always a sad day for an organisation when a well known and liked member passes away.

county delagate said the gb meeting held in the morning as quite short proably to allow people time to make their way to the funeral.

county delegate brought back the annual report pack.
few inserting motions. interesting to see the issue of a shortage of pheasants coming up
looks like the current executive are holding onto solid support in terms of the number of nominations they received, would expect to see them all returned based on the nominations.

A letter went to all delegates stating that the meeting was deliberately moved forward and cut short to facilitate the funeral.

I didn't go but I heard that there was a big turnout.

Some interesting motions alright, and some bizarre ones. It is quite obvious looking at some motions that some counties must not be getting the full picture.

The support for most of the executive is quite strong as you say.

The Governing Body meeting was very quiet. AGM should be good.

Perfectstorm

Backbarrel wrote: »

A letter went to all delegates stating that the meeting was deliberately moved forward and cut short to facilitate the funeral.

I didn't go but I heard that there was a big turnout.

Some interesting motions alright, and some bizarre ones. It is quite obvious looking at some motions that some counties must not be getting the full picture.

The support for most of the executive is quite strong as you say.

The Governing Body meeting was very quiet. AGM should be good.

Had a better read of the annual reports..there are some right bizarre themes in there. I would imagine some will be ruled out of order on the day.

cavan shooter

From what I hear once they got printed there OK for discussion. But Check the high Court listings over the next couple of days to be sure...sure to god some wilting violet has taken offence or slight.

Perfectstorm

an egm in the next 6 months to deal with extending the term of the chairman??. The motions are not written correctly according to the lads who attend these meetings

cavan shooter

Perfectstorm wrote: »

an egm in the next 6 months to deal with extending the term of the chairman??. The motions are not written correctly according to the lads who attend these meetings

Sure to God its a case of write down what your county proposes, discuss it and then vote on it......where does the not written correctly come about. Is the debate not the mechanism to get it clarified.

I already heard a rumor that Dublin has put in to leave the NARGC and take a lump of the pot. Surprising considering Rush and Lusk Gun Club won Club of the year.

Now as I said thats the rumor the truth i'm sure will come out at the debate around the resolution.

wirehairmax

Anybody got a copy of the annual report they could send to me?

cavan shooter

You will get them off your county delegates.