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Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    blackcard wrote: »
    Graigue Ballycallan came from six points down to defeat Thomastown by four. Thomastown looked to be in complete control but goals from Billy Ryan and Jesse Roberts put Graigue in the lead. Eddie Brennan came on as a sub and scored two points. Jonjo Farrell scored six points from midfield for Thomastown who must be wondering how they lost

    Was at it and I thought Ballycallan were never out of it to be honest. Thomastown got six ahead but Ballycallan weren't particularly being outhurled. Neither side greatly impressed me and I can't see Ballycallan getting the goals they needed today against a better team. The team which most impressed me this weekend were Lisdowney actually. They hurled well and it'll be interesting to see if they can put it up to the 'Bridge.

    In terms of the O'Loughlins player I was talking about, I think his name is Dacel Fwamba and he was on the u17 county team this year. According to the Indo he's from DR Congo. I was impressed when I saw him, must've been in a minor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    phkk wrote: »
    Great win for G/Ballycallan, great second half performance. Thomastown were coasting in first half but the introof 3 sbs made all the difference. JJ Farrell was excellent all through, 6 pts from play is serious shooting from midfield/ centre forward in championship match. Thought it was an excellent game, end to end hurling which the big crowd really enjoyed. Billy Ryan's move to full forward along with Eddie's position beside him caused huge fear in Thomastown defenders, who up to this, hurled really well. James Ryall rolked back the years and Conor Flynn, county minor centre back got well on top in second half.
    Intermediate getting very interesting, derby game between Lisdowney and Pats will be worth seeing. Then you could have semifinal between G/B and Tullaroan!!

    Really enjoyable game in front of a large crowd, (attendance must be up at club level) I thought john donnelly had an excellent 1st half at ff he came out in the 2nd to get ball but wasn't as affective,as said above although ttown were cruising 6 points up I always felt there was going to be a twist,gbc drove a good few wides but were creating chances.sean ryan was lively in the corner and ciarian hoyne hit a monster free when 2 points down It really gave them momentum sure enough the next score was a goal from roberts.
    After looking at tullaroan and gbc it's wide open any team could win it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭droppingball


    Good win for gbc, haven't seen as big a crowd at an intermediate match in a long time.

    Ttown were on top for 45 minutes of the game but couldn't shake off a dogged and resilient ballycallan team. Moving Billy Ryan in and bringing on Eddie Brennan caused consternation and was winning of the game.

    Jonjo Farrell hurled as well as I've ever seen him at midfield and most of the six scores were excellent.

    Ballycallan will be hard beaten but not sure they have the quality to win it out. Thomastown are very young and didn't reach heights of their performances from rest of the year.

    Cody was there and like most club games I'm seeing doubt he saw new talent showing. We need big improvement from what we have and the under 21s need to step up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭WhatsGoingOn2


    From kilkennygaa.ie


    The action next weekend starts with a very attractive double header in Nowlan Park on Saturday in the St Canices Credit Union Senior Hurling Championship. Erins Own take on O'Loughlin Gaels at 2pm and this will be followed at 3.45 by the Ballyhale Shamrocks v Clara quarter-final. The other quarter-finals take place on Sunday at 12.30 - Mullinavat v Dicksboro in Ballyhale and James Stephens v Carrickshock in Thomastown. Also on Sunday at 12.30 Lisdowney will take on St Patricks in the last of the Michael Lyng Motors Intermediate quarter-finals in Freshford.
    Then on Sunday afternoon it is back to Nowlan Park for the Semi-Finals of the JJ Kavanagh and Sons Junior Championship. The draws for these semi-finals along with the intermediate semi-finals take place in Nowlan Park on Monday night at 7.30pm and will be carried live on KCLR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,148 ✭✭✭Ceist_Beag


    Does anyone know what's happening to the club underage grades in KK next year? I've been told Co Board are changing minor to U17 in line with the county grade, and we'll have U15 & U13 to tie in with that.

    I'd consider that a bad move because:

    1. It'll just lead to a bigger fall off between minor & adult.
    2. In the same way, clubs will find it harder than it already is to put out U21 teams. They shouldn't touch minor until a U19 or at the very least U20 grade is brought in.
    3. I think 14 is time enough for lads to get their taste of club competitive hurling. Up to 13 most of them have schools championships, now at U11 & U13.

    My understanding of the change brought in last year for minor was that it only applied to County teams.

    The proposal that was being put forward was that the underage structure changes to u13, u15 and minor u17 as you say. Then for one year next year there will be an u18 competition, for the young lads who miss out on minor. I haven't heard if these proposals were ratified or not. There is an u19 competition being organised apparently (not by bord na nog as it would be considered an adult grade).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭Noddy33


    GMore V Moocoin
    Eoin and Shane Murphy were outstanding for Glenmore who took full advantage of playing with a Gale wind in the first half. They never looked in bother in second half really although Mooncoin did fight to the very last minute. Mooncoin were completely dominated at midfield and their forwards had showed no real danger. There was a corner back called 'Nipper' who I have seen for Glenmore numerous times and he constantly impresses me. Alan Murphy had some nice touches and was good on the placed balls in first half but more to come from him. Ger Aylward did not tog out and was on water duties but I suspect that might not be the case in two weeks time.....
    GBC V TTtown
    TTown throw this away after collasping after 45mins but fair play to GBC for fighting back. John Donnelly was exceptional in the first half but could not get on much ball in the second half buthe did not have enough support from his other ttown forwards who found the scores from plat hard to get.. Jonjo was causing havoc by picking up the breaks in midfield and running through the middle to pick off his score. Bill Ryan was quite for most of the match until he scored a wonderful goal that was the start of the comeback for GBC. Eamonn Egan I thought was brilliant for GBC and Eddie Brennan picked off two scores when he come on but also could easily have had another two points. Would love to see a Tullaroan v GBC semi final draw as it would have the makings of a cracker
    Slieverue V Emeralds
    The result of the weekend in my opinion as Slieverue picked up a well deserved victory over the emeralds. There was a savage crosswind that seemed to cause problems particularly for emeralds and two early goals put Slieverue on their way and the emeralds were always chasing the game afters. Conor Martin showed well as you would expect at this standard. Taggy was relevantly quiet but the supply ball to him was poor.
    Niall Walsh was good for Slieverue along with the full back and full forward who proved a real handful. Eoin Kenny had a good game too and his running game was very effective. Slieverue were almost the architects of their own downfall as they all pushed back very deep trying to protect their lead which played into the emeralds hand. Would love to see them make a county final but realistically the going to need a favourable draw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bahanaman


    St. Mullins had a six point win in a challenge v Mullinavat yesterday morning. St. Mullins would've been taking it fairly seriously as there are only a few games in the Carlow championship of any real significance until semi final stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    I heard ger alyward has a shoulder injury glenmore will need him if there going to win the intermediate.His being very unlucky recently with injury.Ballyragget and tullaroan are probably favourites.it was a big win for lisdowney who had the 2 hickeys listed on the bench.
    Looking to this weekend olg should beat comer but I expect comer to give them a good match.
    Bhale should have to much for clara who have a few injures,ballyhale have injected youth into their team id expect the shamrocks to win it out.
    Cshock should have too much for the village who haven't being going great but league form goes out the window
    Boro and vegas also be a good match the boro will favourites but mullinavat coming off a good win against the bridge
    I think the bridge will have their 2 suspended lads back I heard cleere appealed and won


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭robwen


    Is there something on Sunday that the 2 senior & 1 intermediate game are all throwing in at 12.30?

    Eir sport are showing the 2 games from Nowlan Park live on Saturday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭northern lad


    robwen wrote: »
    Is there something on Sunday that the 2 senior & 1 intermediate game are all throwing in at 12.30?

    Eir sport are showing the 2 games from Nowlan Park live on Saturday

    Yes, Junior Semi Finals are on Sunday afternoon in Nowlan Park


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭JJs Left Hand


    brookville wrote: »
    I think the bridge will have their 2 suspended lads back I heard cleere appealed and won
    What's this now? I was told by a Bridge lad that Cleeres pull was pure stupid and he deserved his red. Heard nothing else since as just assumed he was gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    robwen wrote: »
    Is there something on Sunday that the 2 senior & 1 intermediate game are all throwing in at 12.30?

    Eir sport are showing the 2 games from Nowlan Park live on Saturday

    Yes, Junior Semi Finals are on Sunday afternoon in Nowlan Park
    I still don't see why the two senior fixtures should clash. I was at the intermediate match between Tullogher and Lisdowney and there was a convoy of cars that went from that match to see Graigue and Thomastown. I imagine a lot of people would like to see both senior matches on Sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭northern lad


    blackcard wrote: »
    I still don't see why the two senior fixtures should clash. I was at the intermediate match between Tullogher and Lisdowney and there was a convoy of cars that went from that match to see Graigue and Thomastown. I imagine a lot of people would like to see both senior matches on Sunday

    Couldn't agree more.... Fancy James Stephens, Dicksboro, O Loughlins and Shamrocks but not with any great certainty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    What's this now? I was told by a Bridge lad that Cleeres pull was pure stupid and he deserved his red. Heard nothing else since as just assumed he was gone.

    I was talking to a man at the weekend and thats what he said so I can't say for certain,I agree it's terrible the two sunday are clashing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    Intermediate Semi Finals:
    Lisdowney/Ballyragget v Tullaroan
    Graigue Ballycallan v Glenmore

    Junior Semi Finals:
    Slieverue v John Lockes
    O'Loughlin Gaels v Piltown

    If Lisdowney are as good as they looked yesterday, they could really put it up to Ballyragget and then possibly Tullaroan. I haven't seen Glenmore this year but Ballycallan needed those three goals yesterday as their general play wasn't good enough otherwise so I would imagine Glenmore would be better prepared defensively and win. Slieverue could be dangerous after destroying Emeralds and wouldn't shock me if they got through. O'Loughlins v Piltown is probably harder to predict as I know nothing about their B team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭dobbs2210


    FCIM wrote: »
    Intermediate Semi Finals:
    Lisdowney/Bennetsbridge v Tullaroan
    Graigue Ballycallan v Glenmore

    Junior Semi Finals:
    Slieverue v John Lockes
    O'Loughlin Gaels v Piltown

    If Lisdowney are as good as they looked yesterday, they could really put it up to Bennetsbridge and then possibly Tullaroan. I haven't seen Glenmore this year but Ballycallan needed those three goals yesterday as their general play wasn't good enough otherwise so I would imagine Glenmore would be better prepared defensively and win. Slieverue could be dangerous after destroying Emeralds and wouldn't shock me if they got through. O'Loughlins v Piltown is probably harder to predict as I know nothing about their B team.

    Bennettsbridge haven't been relegated....(yet)...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭FCIM


    dobbs2210 wrote: »
    Bennettsbridge haven't been relegated....(yet)...!

    Ballyragget


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭jeff bingham


    Hard to know what o loughlins like. Could they still lose players to senior? I see Daniel o Connor is playing for them. Think 1 or 2 here were asking about him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭sportsmaddad


    Ceist_Beag wrote: »
    The proposal that was being put forward was that the underage structure changes to u13, u15 and minor u17 as you say. Then for one year next year there will be an u18 competition, for the young lads who miss out on minor. I haven't heard if these proposals were ratified or not. There is an u19 competition being organised apparently (not by bord na nog as it would be considered an adult grade).

    Does anyone know if that was ratified? If there's a u18 comp, does that mean u17 & u18 in parallel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    Absolutely disgraceful that the senior matches and intermediate game are all throwing in at 12.30pm on Sunday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭Village87


    Crazy they should be on at 1,3 and 4:30.

    Last weekend i got in the 2 Intermediate matches Saturday and Sunday,

    I have never seen crowds like it at the Tullaroan v Gowran, Tullogher v Lisdowney and Tomastown v Ballycallan.
    County board must have made a mint.

    Then to put 3 big matches together at the same on a Sunday is crazy. Without any disrespect to Junior they will be poorly attended games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    BoroMan32 wrote: »
    Absolutely disgraceful that the senior matches and intermediate game are all throwing in at 12.30pm on Sunday.
    I suggest people contact the County Board at 056 7765122. I will tomorrow. A lot of people very unhappy with scheduling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭laneykin


    Eir Sport 2 showing the Erin's Own and O'Loughlin's game followed by the Clara and Ballyhale game this Saturday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Shirleysrumbler


    Village87 wrote: »
    Crazy they should be on at 1,3 and 4:30.

    Last weekend i got in the 2 Intermediate matches Saturday and Sunday,

    I have never seen crowds like it at the Tullaroan v Gowran, Tullogher v Lisdowney and Tomastown v Ballycallan.
    County board must have made a mint.

    Then to put 3 big matches together at the same on a Sunday is crazy. Without any disrespect to Junior they will be poorly attended games.
    Co Board doesn't get a cent from either first rounds or QFs.Kk prob last county to give any Co Champ gate money to clubs!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Co Board doesn't get a cent from either first rounds or QFs.Kk prob last county to give any Co Champ gate money to clubs!!
    Why don't county board get money from these games?

    In Clare, venues get 10% of the gate or if they've a stand 15%. Paid in one lump sum at the end of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Nedflanders02


    Why don'y county board get money from these games?

    In Clare, venues get 10% of the gate or if they've a stand 15%. Paid in one lump sum at the end of the year.

    I'm open to correction here but in Kilkenny I think that both clubs paying get 10% of the gate receipts and the remainder stays with the host club, the kk county board only gets the gate receipts for games in Nowlan park or in Dunmore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    I'm open to correction here but in Kilkenny I think that both clubs paying get 10% of the gate receipts and the remainder stays with the host club, the kk county board only gets the gate receipts for games in Nowlan park or in Dunmore.

    Really? Must be a good earner for clubs so. I doubt that would happen in too many other counties. Fair play to yere county board if it is the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    I'm open to correction here but in Kilkenny I think that both clubs paying get 10% of the gate receipts and the remainder stays with the host club, the kk county board only gets the gate receipts for games in Nowlan park or in Dunmore.

    its the other way round host club 10%
    competing teams 45% each


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭minty81


    Slieverue the story of the championship so far with 2 huge wins. When was the last time they played in nowlan park?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭sportsmaddad


    Does anyone know what's happening to the club underage grades in KK next year? I've been told Co Board are changing minor to U17 in line with the county grade, and we'll have U15 & U13 to tie in with that.

    I see on The42 that this may be coming down the tracks from a higher authority. Special Congress on Saturday to decide on it (and plenty other stuff):

    Age grades (football & hurling)
    The CCCC/Ard Chomhairle (Motion 20) proposes that underage age grades at club level be altered from U12, U14, U16 and U18 to U11, U13, U15 and U17

    I'd like to hear others' thoughts on this...


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