Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

kilkennyboy

3rd strike
their was a problem at the feile in wexford
problem in hugginstown v shamrock
if he wasn't an ex player he wouldn't be left in the gate

dastardly00

All-Star nominations have been announced.
http://www.the42.ie/galway-waterford-all-star-hurling-nominations-3605729-Sep2017/

Cillian Buckley and TJ Reid are shortlisted.
I wasn't expecting us to get any nominations to be honest!

dastardly00

Both Paul Murphy & Colin Fennelly will miss the 2018 NHL due to army duty according to the Kilkenny People

http://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/271478/kilkenny-will-be-without-murphy-and-fennelly-for-nhl-2018.html

Garyp88

I think dicksboro for the seniors and young irelands for the intermediate both have good young teams. Is anyone on here a member of dicksboro im looking at joining ive sent a few emails and messages but no reply. Do i have to fill any forms in or just join online?

brookville

Garyp88 wrote: »

I think dicksboro for the seniors and young irelands for the intermediate both have good young teams. Is anyone on here a member of dicksboro im looking at joining ive sent a few emails and messages but no reply. Do i have to fill any forms in or just join online?

A few people tipping the boro this year and you'd expect with all their underage success they should be more successful at senior level but they seem to struggle to get over the line,maybe this is the year they remind me of galway,it's very hard to trust them.If vegas played like they did last saturday I'd give them a good chance against the boro.
For the first time in a long time teams fancy their chances at winning the championship,shamrocks/o loughlins probably favorites but the shocks are motoring well and are continuing last year's run they could sneak into a final,I'd tip mulinavat as my darkhorse
Intermediate as always is very open and very little could be read into last weekends leauge/shield finals at senior and intermediate most teams shadow boxing or resting players

Thomastown/tullaron/ballyragget/glenmore and young irelands all evenly matched tullaron v young irelands saturday should be a good match

Realt Dearg Sec

Garyp88 wrote: »

I think dicksboro for the seniors and young irelands for the intermediate both have good young teams. Is anyone on here a member of dicksboro im looking at joining ive sent a few emails and messages but no reply. Do i have to fill any forms in or just join online?

Ah I'd make sure and contact someone before joining anyway, bad form that they aren't replying to you, I'm sure they'd have no problem processing the membership fee.

Website is in dire need of being upgraded, looks like it was designed on geocities.

Garyp88

We just want to pop over for some games, support a club, a few beers etc. I sent them tweets, facebook messages and emails the next stop is phoning. I thought theyd be happy people are willing to pay up

Garyp88

We just want to pop over for some games, support a club, a few beers etc. I sent them tweets, facebook messages and emails the next stop is phoning. I thought theyd be happy people are willing to pay up

Realt Dearg Sec

Garyp88 wrote: »

We just want to pop over for some games, support a club, a few beers etc. I sent them tweets, facebook messages and emails the next stop is phoning. I thought theyd be happy people are willing to pay up

Tweet them that you're interested in sponsoring them, guarantee someone will be on to you quick sharp. Besides that, as a supporter of the club I have to say I'm disappointed but not exactly shocked. Fierce shortsighted. If you want to join a Junior club in Dublin realtdearg.com has plenty of contact details and I can be sure someone will appreciate and respond to anyone wanting to become a member!

Garyp88

The registrar from the camogie has stepped in and offered to help. She seams decent, welcoming and very helpful so hopefully things will be moving

FCIM

I think Gowran are too young and haven't got the maturity yet that would win them a championship. I've seen them in a few matches this year and they tend to play very well for a period and then go missing for about twenty minutes before coming back into it. They were horrendous against Thomastown and by all account bad against Ballyragget which are the two contenders they've played. They have a great young team coming through though and a year or two should see them up to senior.

citykat

Eddie's had enough.

www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/272431/under-21-hurling-eddie-brennan-steps-down-as-kilkenny-manager.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

brookville

citykat wrote: »

Eddie's had enough.

www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/272431/under-21-hurling-eddie-brennan-steps-down-as-kilkenny-manager.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Easy for us to be critical after matches I think his a good on the sunday game maybe not as good coaching which is often the case.It was widely known this year's team was as good as we had in a long time and despite getting to the final the fact of the mattress is we didn't preform that day and could of being bet out the gate.
From the outside I was disappointed kevin farrell couldn't make the 24 the first day or andy gaffney but this didn't make us lose the final of course but I think now it's vital we select a proven manager with a good backroom team
Next year's team got to a minor semi beaten after a replay to galway (should of won twice) while lads like mikey carey and adrian mullen both look very good we wot be too bad
Anyway thanks to eddie and co for their time

dzer2

brookville wrote: »

Easy for us to be critical after matches I think his a good on the sunday game maybe not as good coaching which is often the case.It was widely known this year's team was as good as we had in a long time and despite getting to the final the fact of the mattress is we didn't preform that day and could of being bet out the gate.
From the outside I was disappointed kevin farrell couldn't make the 24 the first day or andy gaffney but this didn't make us lose the final of course but I think now it's vital we select a proven manager with a good backroom team
Next year's team got to a minor semi beaten after a replay to galway (should of won twice) while lads like mikey carey and adrian mullen both look very good we wot be too bad
Anyway thanks to eddie and co for their time

Just a point should no one else get a look in apart from that team

blackcard

Tullaroan beat Gowran by 5 points helped by 1-16 from Shane, Padraig and Tommy Walsh and 3 goals against a very strong wind. Gowran battled hard with 12 points from Paul Holden and a goal from Sean Carey reduced the deficit to 3 points in the last ten minutes. Padraig Walsh had a number of good catches and has to be amongst the best 6 forwards in the county. I thought he was the best forward in last years club championship.

brookville

blackcard wrote: »

Tullaroan beat Gowran by 5 points helped by 1-16 from Shane, Padraig and Tommy Walsh and 3 goals against a very strong wind. Gowran battled hard with 12 points from Paul Holden and a goal from Sean Carey reduced the deficit to 3 points in the last ten minutes. Padraig Walsh had a number of good catches and has to be amongst the best 6 forwards in the county. I thought he was the best forward in last years club championship.

Padraig hurled well and like tommy he drove a few wides he'll be disappointed with.Shane was very effective early on while martin grew into the game at 6.Gowran fought hard but missing a few players to win it out.tullaroan will have to tidy up on fouling if they want to win this championship they gave away a lot of frees.Paul holden is decent but probably lacks pace for senior.
The problem with having padraig in attack for us is we need him in defence and I think he'll have to go back to half back line
Well done to slieverue today great win for them over emeralds

davidx40

The Favourites for the junior Emeralds beaten today ....surprising

blackcard

brookville wrote: »

blackcard wrote: »

Tullaroan beat Gowran by 5 points helped by 1-16 from Shane, Padraig and Tommy Walsh and 3 goals against a very strong wind. Gowran battled hard with 12 points from Paul Holden and a goal from Sean Carey reduced the deficit to 3 points in the last ten minutes. Padraig Walsh had a number of good catches and has to be amongst the best 6 forwards in the county. I thought he was the best forward in last years club championship.

Padraig hurled well and like tommy he drove a few wides he'll be disappointed with.Shane was very effective early on while martin grew into the game at 6.Gowran fought hard but missing a few players to win it out.tullaroan will have to tidy up on fouling if they want to win this championship they gave away a lot of frees.Paul holden is decent but probably lacks pace for senior.
The problem with having padraig in attack for us is we need him in defence and I think he'll have to go back to half back line
Well done to slieverue today great win for them over emeralds

I am a believer in playing the best players in their best positions. I think Padraig's best position is rhb. However, because we are struggling in the forwards I would be tempted to play Padraig there with a hb line of Cleere, Buckley, Lawlor.

dobbs2210

davidx40 wrote: »

The Favourites for the junior Emeralds beaten today ....surprising

They were favourites last year and got dumped on their a*se in the first round. Favourites again this year even though Callan hurled the crap out of them recently in the league final and get dumped out today by Slieverue. Shocking poor side they are.

Maybe it's time Emeralds should not be favourites. Average team at best. Callan will take stopping if they keep the focus right.

brookville

dobbs2210 wrote: »

They were favourites last year and got dumped on their a*se in the first round. Favourites again this year even though Callan hurled the crap out of them recently in the league final and get dumped out today by Slieverue. Shocking poor side they are.

Maybe it's time Emeralds should not be favourites. Average team at best. Callan will take stopping if they keep the focus right.

I agree callan look in pole position now,just looking at the programme today o loughlins look decent at junior level some older ex senior players with recent minors,there playing clara tomorrow.

brookville

blackcard wrote: »

I am a believer in playing the best players in their best positions. I think Padraig's best position is rhb. However, because we are struggling in the forwards I would be tempted to play Padraig there with a hb line of Cleere, Buckley, Lawlor.

We struggled all over the place this year and maybe if we had more options we could do this but richie reid was good last weekend in the hb line maybe another club run in that position could see him become an option in defence.
The round of seniors should be good next weekend

citykat

blackcard wrote: »

I would be tempted to play Padraig there with a hb line of Cleere, Buckley, Lawlor.

Haven't seen much of him but Lawlor was practically anonymous against the Boro in the league final.

FCIM

dobbs2210 wrote: »

They were favourites last year and got dumped on their a*se in the first round. Favourites again this year even though Callan hurled the crap out of them recently in the league final and get dumped out today by Slieverue. Shocking poor side they are.

Maybe it's time Emeralds should not be favourites. Average team at best. Callan will take stopping if they keep the focus right.

Was anyone at Piltown - Skeough? Were Piltown decent or Skeough poor? Would Piltown be strong outsiders or would Slieverue/winner of O'Loughlins-Clara have too much for them ignoring the fact John Locke's will be strong favourites overall? BTW I genuinely don't mean this to be offensive but I have no other way of describing the chap. Last year I remember seeing a black guy playing for O'Loughlins (it may have been minor/junior level) and thinking he was very good and as I recall he's young and I thought he was a very good prospect. Recently saw O'Loughlins and was surprised not to see him (again I may have seen him in a minor/junior match last year whereas this was senior) because I was impressed the last day. Anyone know if he's progressing towards/near the senior team (and it'd also be handy if someone knows his name so I can ask about him without running the risk of causing offence)? Remember thinking he looked like an exciting prospect. To my knowledge he has a sister who plays camogie who I've also seen and thought was impressive too.

Also, did I read right somewhere that a B team can't be promoted to intermediate anymore? In that case if O'Loughlins/Clara won junior would the beaten team in the final go up?

In terms of the previous discussion on Gowran, their full back line was like a sieve in the first half yesterday. They moved Michael Carey back into full back in the second half and it did a lot to shore up the defence. Tullaroan looked like they could have scored several goals in the first half, not just the three that they did but rarely if ever looked like doing so with Carey in the number 3 position. It would be hard to judge Tullaroan based on yesterday's performance as the weather was very poor but I hesitantly would move them out of the favourites slot as they did look slow in areas, particularly when Gowran worked hard up front in the first half.

dubcat51

FCIM wrote: »

Was anyone at Piltown - Skeough? Were Piltown decent or Skeough poor? Would Piltown be strong outsiders or would Slieverue/winner of O'Loughlins-Clara have too much for them ignoring the fact John Locke's will be strong favourites overall? BTW I genuinely don't mean this to be offensive but I have no other way of describing the chap. Last year I remember seeing a black guy playing for O'Loughlins (it may have been minor/junior level) and thinking he was very good and as I recall he's young and I thought he was a very good prospect. Recently saw O'Loughlins and was surprised not to see him (again I may have seen him in a minor/junior match last year whereas this was senior) because I was impressed the last day. Anyone know if he's progressing towards/near the senior team (and it'd also be handy if someone knows his name so I can ask about him without running the risk of causing offence)? Remember thinking he looked like an exciting prospect. To my knowledge he has a sister who plays camogie who I've also seen and thought was impressive too.

Also, did I read right somewhere that a B team can't be promoted to intermediate anymore? In that case if O'Loughlins/Clara won junior would the beaten team in the final go up?

In terms of the previous discussion on Gowran, their full back line was like a sieve in the first half yesterday. They moved Michael Carey back into full back in the second half and it did a lot to shore up the defence. Tullaroan looked like they could have scored several goals in the first half, not just the three that they did but rarely if ever looked like doing so with Carey in the number 3 position. It would be hard to judge Tullaroan based on yesterday's performance as the weather was very poor but I hesitantly would move them out of the favourites slot as they did look slow in areas, particularly when Gowran worked hard up front in the first half.

Lad from o loughlins was u17 on county squad this year but cant remember his name.strong but technically poor imo.

jeff bingham

Wasn't Vincent Wallace was it? Not sure he still plays

sportsmaddad

Does anyone know what's happening to the club underage grades in KK next year? I've been told Co Board are changing minor to U17 in line with the county grade, and we'll have U15 & U13 to tie in with that.

I'd consider that a bad move because:

1. It'll just lead to a bigger fall off between minor & adult.
2. In the same way, clubs will find it harder than it already is to put out U21 teams. They shouldn't touch minor until a U19 or at the very least U20 grade is brought in.
3. I think 14 is time enough for lads to get their taste of club competitive hurling. Up to 13 most of them have schools championships, now at U11 & U13.

My understanding of the change brought in last year for minor was that it only applied to County teams.

dubcat51

sportsmaddad wrote: »

Does anyone know what's happening to the club underage grades in KK next year? I've been told Co Board are chamging minor to U17 in line with the county grade, and we'll have U15 & U13 to tie in with that.

I'd consider that a bad move because:

1. It'll just lead to a bigger fall off between minor & adult.
2. In the same way, clubs will find it harder than it already is to put out U21 teams. They shouldn't touch minor until a U19 or at the very least U20 grade is brought in.
3. I think 14 is time enough for lads to get their taste of club competitive hurling. Up to 13 most of them have schools championships, now at U11 & U13.

My understanding of the change brought in last year for minor was that it only applied to County teams.

Only county but counties can change if they vote to do so.dublin had a vote on changing from 18 to 17.

blackcard

Graigue Ballycallan came from six points down to defeat Thomastown by four. Thomastown looked to be in complete control but goals from Billy Ryan and Jesse Roberts put Graigue in the lead. Eddie Brennan came on as a sub and scored two points. Jonjo Farrell scored six points from midfield for Thomastown who must be wondering how they lost

jeff bingham

A lot of talk bigging up Thomastown since league final, game today shows how competitive that intermediate grade is

phkk

Great win for G/Ballycallan, great second half performance. Thomastown were coasting in first half but the introof 3 sbs made all the difference. JJ Farrell was excellent all through, 6 pts from play is serious shooting from midfield/ centre forward in championship match. Thought it was an excellent game, end to end hurling which the big crowd really enjoyed. Billy Ryan's move to full forward along with Eddie's position beside him caused huge fear in Thomastown defenders, who up to this, hurled really well. James Ryall rolked back the years and Conor Flynn, county minor centre back got well on top in second half.
Intermediate getting very interesting, derby game between Lisdowney and Pats will be worth seeing. Then you could have semifinal between G/B and Tullaroan!!