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Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    Jayesdiem wrote: »
    It was pretty fcking idiotic - almost comical. The problem is they are bringing on guests who share these views. Is it on the application form?

    Is the sunday paper slot worth listening to ? (even for the humour)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    Jayesdiem wrote: »
    It was pretty fcking idiotic - almost comical. The problem is they are bringing on guests who share these views. Is it on the application form?

    Is the sunday paper slot worth listening to ? (even for the humour)

    It's becoming unlistenable! But I love a good rant!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Is the sunday paper slot worth listening to ? (even for the humour)

    I vote no, you'll never get that time back, feckin ejits. The paper review was my favourite hour of radio and they are ruining it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    you'd think they'd offer an occasional slot to amy o'connor or sinead o'carroll with a view to a bigger gig in the future. both have done the paper review, and are mad into their sport, so could give it a good bash.
    i'd safely say sinead o'carroll would run rings around joe in a hurling slot.

    Joe might get offended or threatened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    After hearing of the letter by 20 members of Newstalk staff demanding Hook is taken off the air I can imaging Ger and Joe being the main draftees of said letter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,779 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    redbuck wrote: »
    After hearing of the letter by 20 members of Newstalk staff demanding Hook is taken off the air I can imaging Ger and Joe being the main draftees of said letter.

    Letter? What's this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    Ol' Donie wrote: »
    redbuck wrote: »
    After hearing of the letter by 20 members of Newstalk staff demanding Hook is taken off the air I can imaging Ger and Joe being the main draftees of said letter.

    Letter? What's this?

    Just seen it on the journal can't link it at the minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    pc7 wrote: »
    It was so ridiculous I had to turn it off. Being so pc you can't say 'joe bloggs Cork' cause it's a women's team. I've never heard such sh1te in my life and I'm a woman! Turned it off cause it was putting me in bad form.

    I listened back to this last night. I think when you want in to the paper review on Sunday, they have one bucket to put your mobile phone and one bucket to put your b*lls in. Why can nobody just say "The reason that there is not more coverage of the women's game is because there is not a huge demand for coverage of it." Surely true equality is covering a sport because people want to see it, not because of the sex of the people playing it. What is wrong with just saying that??? As Brian Kerr said "Why is the honest answer the wrong answer?"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,266 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I listened back to this last night. I think when you want in to the paper review on Sunday, they have one bucket to put your mobile phone and one bucket to put your b*lls in. Why can nobody just say "The reason that there is not more coverage of the women's game is because there is not a huge demand for coverage of it." Surely true equality is covering a sport because people want to see it, not because of the sex of the people playing it. What is wrong with just saying that??? As Brian Kerr said "Why is the honest answer the wrong answer?"

    Didn't listen to it.

    I would prefer that they asked real questions like why more women do not follow women's sport

    I even had a thread on it ages ago
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99979090

    The paper review / OTB obviously don't read boards.ie ? :D
    I think at this rate Newstalk's percentage of boards.ie members in the listernship figures will will keep dropping.

    Maybe I am not the target market anymore?
    I mainly like listening to actual games discussed no social justice stuff, or stuff that is vaguely related to the sports itself in a national / international context.
    Not interested in listening to thier take on political stuff they are sports journalists.
    It is sports show.

    The fun and vibrancy has being slowly sucked out of the show.
    There used to be an off the cuff nature about it now it is 'forced fun'
    There is no /very little contrary opinion on the show which will stimulate debate on sports issues.

    Words are always very carefully chosen. On the off chance that they might cause offence to xyz.
    Or not even xyz the whole alphabet in many cases!

    It seems to be turning into a younger version of what RTE produce at this stage.
    With a few 'f**k it's' 'feck it's' and 'is it like, is it like...and like were you like screw you guys?' thrown in by Ger.

    Is that all they have left now?

    I remember when 2FM used to be the edgy, experimental go-to station.
    Not anymore.
    OTB Newstalk is going the same way?

    This current listener could end up being a former one very soon.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    I listened back to this last night. I think when you want in to the paper review on Sunday, they have one bucket to put your mobile phone and one bucket to put your b*lls in. Why can nobody just say "The reason that there is not more coverage of the women's game is because there is not a huge demand for coverage of it." Surely true equality is covering a sport because people want to see it, not because of the sex of the people playing it. What is wrong with just saying that??? As Brian Kerr said "Why is the honest answer the wrong answer?"

    Weirdly, the women's sport with (from all evidence I've seen) by far the biggest following in Ireland- Ladies Gaelic Football- is barely mentioned on OTB.

    I don't think I know a single person who plays, or is connected with anyone who plays, women's 15-a-side rugby union, but it gets a serious amount of airtime devoted to it in comparison to other women's sports.

    Personally, I've no interest in following women's sports as the standard is just miles behind men's sports. I'd imagine there's nothing more sinister in it than that for 95+% of the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,779 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Just a tiny point here, if Cork were playing Kilkenny in the hurling final (instead of Galway-Waterford) the interest around the rest of the country would be very limited too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,779 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie



    It seems to be turning into a younger version of what RTE produce at this stage.
    With a few 'f**k it's' 'feck it's' and 'is it like, is it like...and like were you like screw you guys?' thrown in by Ger.

    :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    It seems to be turning into a younger version of what RTE produce at this stage.
    With a few 'f**k it's' 'feck it's' and 'is it like, is it like...and like were you like screw you guys?' thrown in by Ger.

    What's the term for that? Ger is always doing it. It's not paraphrasing, because it's hypothetical conversations, or where he is imagining what people would say in particular scenarios.

    You know the way he does it:
    And if he went in to the dressing room he'd be like "Get out on that pitch and play for your money". And the players would be like "Well screw you were not playing for you". And then the manager would be like "Get out there Now".

    That sort of sh1te.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    Good interview with Alan Brogan last night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,266 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    What's the term for that? Ger is always doing it. It's not paraphrasing, because it's hypothetical conversations, or where he is imagining what people would say in particular scenarios.

    You know the way he does it:


    That sort of sh1te.

    Apparently it is called 'Constructed Dialogue'


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_action_and_dialogue


    https://www.thoughtco.com/constructed-dialogue-conversation-1689916

    When you're like:


    "
    "

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Imhof Tank


    What's the term for that? Ger is always doing it. It's not paraphrasing, because it's hypothetical conversations, or where he is imagining what people would say in particular scenarios.

    You know the way he does it:


    That sort of sh1te.

    Ross O'Carroll Kelly speak isn't it?

    So, I'm like ......... and he goes .......... and she's there......... and I'm like ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    Imhof Tank wrote: »
    Ross O'Carroll Kelly speak isn't it? So, I'm like ......... and he goes .......... and she's there......... and I'm like ....

    We had one on the live show......

    "So mcmenamin gets the ball and he's like 'screw u I'm gonna go for a goal' "

    I hate when he uses such constructed dialogue😀


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭PeterTheNinth


    Have to say, either Nathan or Richie are probably my favourite presenters at this stage. It used to be Joe, but sport is sort of secondary to Joe these days. His priority these days seems to be identifying social justice issues within the environs of sport. Still cant warm to that Eoin Sheehan guy either. He just sounds like a newsreader, very dispassionate voice, just listing facts and figures.

    Just downloading the paper review now. It's up already.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭monstermag


    Have to say, either Nathan or Richie are probably my favourite presenters at this stage. It used to be Joe, but sport is sort of secondary to Joe these days. His priority these days seems to be identifying social justice issues within the environs of sport. Still cant warm to that Eoin Sheehan guy either. He just sounds like a newsreader, very dispassionate voice, just listing facts and figures.

    Just downloading the paper review now. It's up already.
    Both have been very good the last few weeks. Key is they stick to the sport. Nathan is in a lot on Saturday's, he has a nice relaxed presenting style, doesn't over complicate things, keeps it nice and simple..He is very professional and u get the feeling that he loves his job.
    Can't complain about Richie either, although he is more in the mold of Joe and Ger.
    I must say l think Dave McIntyre is very good anytime he's at the helm, again very professional and l always get the impression that he loves his job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    McIntyre pure class. Good commentator too. He should be anchoring the major shows ahead of the two snowflakes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    monstermag wrote:
    Both have been very good the last few weeks. Key is they stick to the sport. Nathan is in a lot on Saturday's, he has a nice relaxed presenting style, doesn't over complicate things, keeps it nice and simple..He is very professional and u get the feeling that he loves his job. Can't complain about Richie either, although he is more in the mold of Joe and Ger. I must say l think Dave McIntyre is very good anytime he's at the helm, again very professional and l always get the impression that he loves his job.


    Agree 100%. Nathan is the best of the bunch for me. Richie is okay, but I get the impression that he is very politically-correct and conforms with whatever populist views are out there. He is just better at concealing this trait than Ger or Joe.

    On that point, what the hell has happened to Joe?? He used be really good, but has disintegrated into a parody at this stage. Someone needs to remind him that he is a sports broadcaster and not a current affairs one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    Jayesdiem wrote: »
    McIntyre pure class. Good commentator too. He should be anchoring the major shows ahead of the two snowflakes.

    Despite the tone of this thread the shows JNLRs are doing just fine, still getting over twice the number of listeners as any other show on at that time. A Dave McIntyre presented show would tank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Agree 100%. Nathan is the best of the bunch for me. Richie is okay, but I get the impression that he is very politically-correct and conforms with whatever populist views are out there. He is just better at concealing this trait than Ger or Joe.

    On that point, what the hell has happened to Joe?? He used be really good, but has disintegrated into a parody at this stage. Someone needs to remind him that he is a sports broadcaster and not a current affairs one.

    Joe can only get a hard on for sport 4 or 5 times a year, for the majors and the irish open. when the ryder cup comes around, then he can go to town. He's Ger-lite on any other sport though.

    critics seem to be losing interest in the show too though. it regularly won best sports show at the PPI but that's gone to Team 33 last time round, which is an excellent show. shame about when it's broadcast though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101



    critics seem to be losing interest in the show too though. it regularly won best sports show at the PPI but that's gone to Team 33 last time round, which is an excellent show. shame about when it's broadcast though.

    Really? And who won the sports broadcaster of the year 2016?....Joe Molloy. And won it two years before that?...Joe Molloy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    Really? And who won the sports broadcaster of the year 2016?....Joe Molloy. And won it two years before that?...Joe Molloy.

    i mentioned sports show. OTB used to clean up at them. not anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    i mentioned sports show. OTB used to clean up at them. not anymore.

    Not always, even going back to the old lot. Without checking it out. I'm fairly sure Mcdevitt won it more often then the show did too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    Not always, even going back to the old lot. Without checking it out. I'm fairly sure Mcdevitt won it more often then the show did too.

    i'll bow to your wisdom, as i can't be arsed looking it up now either!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭monstermag


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    Not always, even going back to the old lot. Without checking it out. I'm fairly sure Mcdevitt won it more often then the show did too.

    The PPI awards are a bit like school sports day, every kid gets a meddle. Everyone who's anyone in broadcasting has a PPI award.


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