Second Captains

HelloMuddha · 04-09-2017 11:26AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/ken-early-without-a-system-there-is-no-salvation-for-ireland-1.3208417?mode=amp

Is there a better writer about football working in an Irish newspaper? So cogent.

lawred2 · 04-09-2017 01:35PM

HelloMuddha wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/ken-early-without-a-system-there-is-no-salvation-for-ireland-1.3208417?mode=amp

Is there a better writer about football working in an Irish newspaper? So cogent.

I love it - he's so acerbic.

dulux99 · 04-09-2017 03:46PM

I'm only being a nosey bollox here, but does anyone have any Idea if the likes of Jonathan Wilson etc would get paid for appearing on second captains? Or would the payment be in 'exposure'?

Beersmith · 04-09-2017 06:47PM

Defo gets paid a few hundred. Sickening when miguel is on getting paid for tripe

Ciaran_B · 04-09-2017 07:49PM

Really liked the sting they had from the hurling yesterday.

Seamy Fitz · 04-09-2017 09:16PM

dulux99 wrote: »

I'm only being a nosey bollox here, but does anyone have any Idea if the likes of Jonathan Wilson etc would get paid for appearing on second captains? Or would the payment be in 'exposure'?

Not that anyone asked for this info but here's my tuppence worth on SC contributors.

On Jonathan Wilson - He's brilliant.

After that my favourite contributors are US Murph, Andy Lee, Malachy Clerkin.

To quote Oisin McConville -they need to change awp the rugby. Shane Horgan is hard work (sorry Mark!). I've mixed feeling on Oisin. Glad they got rid of Anthony Moyles - Quirke is good and so is Karl Manion although his voice can be hard work.

Overall - world service is still well worth the money compared to the competition. I also feel like I owe them money for listening to them ad-free for 4 years.

Say Your Number · 05-09-2017 03:27AM

Loved Ken's description of watching the Ireland match with bored and apathetic relatives.

Murph understandably sounded a little rough yesterday.

Ol' Donie · 05-09-2017 06:44PM

My bank card expired at the end of last month, and for some reason Patreon keeps telling me my payment has not gone through using my new details.

Anyone else have this problem? It's sooo f*ckin annoying.

Ciaran_B · 05-09-2017 06:55PM

Say Your Number wrote: »

Loved Ken's description of watching the Ireland match with bored and apathetic relatives.

Murph understandably sounded a little rough yesterday.

Johnny Glynn sounded fit for his bed today.

HelloMuddha · 07-09-2017 09:49PM

I've only recently started posting on boards in general, not sure if this was posted before but might interest people. It's an interview with Mark Horgan. Interesting enough if a bit short.

https://www.businesspost.ie/business/second-captains-mark-horgan-reveals-secret-good-podcast-393701

weadick · 10-09-2017 03:33PM

Got so sick of the cringy 'banter' on Newstalk between 'Killer' and 'the lads' after the last few Ireland games. Noone really comes close to Eoin and Ken when it comes the (mis)fortunes of the international team. I was getting by on just the one weekly free podcast up to now but just decided to stump up the fiver a month to get full access.

So far I have worked my way back through some of the old Players Chair ones with Quinn, Kerr and McCarthy. Are there any other old podcasts that might be worth listening back to even now?

riemann · 10-09-2017 06:21PM

weadick wrote: »

Got so sick of the cringy 'banter' on Newstalk between 'Killer' and 'the lads' after the last few Ireland games. Noone really comes close to Eoin and Ken when it comes the (mis)fortunes of the international team. I was getting by on just the one weekly free podcast up to now but just decided to stump up the fiver a month to get full access.

So far I have worked my way back through some of the old Players Chair ones with Quinn, Kerr and McCarthy. Are there any other old podcasts that might be worth listening back to even now?

There's one with Sean Dyche back at the beginning.

lawred2 · 12-09-2017 08:58AM

I want to hear more from Cian O Neill on football. Refreshingly eloquent. No cliches and actual insight. Pity that it took until the week of the final to hear from him.

corwill · 12-09-2017 09:50AM

I want to hear less Miguel Delaney. Does every bloody piece have to come back to his willingness to eat a yard of Pep's poop? Quite aside from his gasping, staccato delivery of his wibblings.

Ol' Donie · 12-09-2017 10:07AM

corwill wrote: »

I want to hear less Miguel Delaney. Does every bloody piece have to come back to his willingness to eat a yard of Pep's poop? Quite aside from his gasping, staccato delivery of his wibblings.

How does he find time to even watch football? So far this week I've heard him on MOTD extra on Sunday and OTB & SC yesterday. And I haven't exactly been looking for him.

Raoul · 12-09-2017 11:04AM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

How does he find time to even watch football? So far this week I've heard him on MOTD extra on Sunday and OTB & SC yesterday. And I haven't exactly been looking for him.

How does he get on so many things??

Loafing Oaf · 12-09-2017 11:44AM

Raoul wrote: »

How does he get on so many things??

Producers must think he's half Spanish and therefore an authority on footie and half-Irish and therefore an eloquent, poetic speaker of English.

As to how far he lives up to either of these stereotypes I'll leave it up to yourselves to judge...

dastardly00 · 12-09-2017 11:54AM

corwill wrote: »

I want to hear less Miguel Delaney. Does every bloody piece have to come back to his willingness to eat a yard of Pep's poop? Quite aside from his gasping, staccato delivery of his wibblings.

I was enjoying the football podcast until Miguel came on. I then stopped listening

corwill · 12-09-2017 12:07PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Producers must think he's half Spanish and therefore an authority on footie and half-Irish and therefore an eloquent, poetic speaker of English.

As to how far he lives up to either of these stereotypes I'll leave it up to yourselves to judge...

What surprises me is the seemingly high regard in which he's held by journos who I have time for, Lowe, Honigstein, Fanning come to mind.

He's a flute on Twitter, too, to cap it all.

lawred2 · 12-09-2017 12:15PM

corwill wrote: »

What surprises me is the seemingly high regard in which he's held by journos who I have time for, Lowe, Honigstein, Fanning come to mind.

He's a flute on Twitter, too, to cap it all.

I love that insult - always have

And Delaney is tailor made for it

Arghus · 12-09-2017 12:42PM

I thought it was a noticably weak football show yesterday. Ken was allowed to ramble on for twenty whole minutes about De Boer story - which is an interesting story, but really not that important in the context of the wide world of football - no one apart from Palace fans, which there are fck all of in Ireland, is going to give a flying fck about all of it in a fortnight's time.

He really hyped it up - "the most stupid thing in the history of The Premier League" - almost it felt to justify talking about it at such great length. Ken is great and all, but from time to time he just becomes fixated on a subject and starts parsing it for deeper meaning and ends up like a dog chasing his tail. I gave a sigh of relief when they moved on to talking about Liverpool and, of course, the inevitable Mourinho conversation - based, as always, around something he said in an interview or press conference.

Then they spent fifteen minutes talking to Miguel Delaney about the De Boer sacking. Jesus Christ.

dulux99 · 12-09-2017 01:28PM

weadick wrote: »

Got so sick of the cringy 'banter' on Newstalk between 'Killer' and 'the lads' after the last few Ireland games. Noone really comes close to Eoin and Ken when it comes the (mis)fortunes of the international team. I was getting by on just the one weekly free podcast up to now but just decided to stump up the fiver a month to get full access.

So far I have worked my way back through some of the old Players Chair ones with Quinn, Kerr and McCarthy. Are there any other old podcasts that might be worth listening back to even now?

I liked the players chair with Damien Duff. He seems like a sound chap

Kingp35 · 12-09-2017 01:30PM

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

Ol' Donie · 12-09-2017 02:20PM

Kingp35 wrote: »

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

Never. It's my favourite slot on the show.

dastardly00 · 12-09-2017 02:22PM

Kingp35 wrote: »

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

Remember, this is just a football game, no matter who wins or loses.

Ciaran_B · 12-09-2017 02:35PM

Kingp35 wrote: »

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

I've no interest in American sport but I always listen to him.

Dots1982 · 12-09-2017 06:38PM

lawred2 wrote: »

I want to hear more from Cian O Neill on football. Refreshingly eloquent. No cliches and actual insight. Pity that it took until the week of the final to hear from him.

Very eloquent, not sure he provides that much insight for me. Alan Brogan on the Irish independent podcast provides a decent amount of insight into Dublin and Jim Gavin this week.

Dots1982 · 12-09-2017 06:45PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Raoul wrote: »

How does he get on so many things??

Producers must think he's half Spanish and therefore an authority on footie and half-Irish and therefore an eloquent, poetic speaker of English.

As to how far he lives up to either of these stereotypes I'll leave it up to yourselves to judge...

The thing you've got to understand with Miguel and English journalism is that English football journalism is based around getting "scoops". I don't think Miguel is good into a microphone but he is good at breaking stories and it does seem he has contacts feeding him information. He broke Rooney going back to Everton in February which was a good story for him to get in fairness.

Ol' Donie · 12-09-2017 07:31PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

Very eloquent, not sure he provides that much insight for me. Alan Brogan on the Irish independent podcast provides a decent amount of insight into Dublin and Jim Gavin this week.

Must give that a listen. Thanks.

corwill · 12-09-2017 08:17PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

The thing you've got to understand with Miguel and English journalism is that English football journalism is based around getting "scoops". I don't think Miguel is good into a microphone but he is good at breaking stories and it does seem he has contacts feeding him information. He broke Rooney going back to Everton in February which was a good story for him to get in fairness.

Well, he's podcast poison, unpleasant on Twitter, and his analysis, such as it is, articles are unctuous waffle. The day I'd miss him off SC would be a long time coming.

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