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Second Captains

ballsymchugh

Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Cheers,
wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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HelloMuddha

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/ken-early-without-a-system-there-is-no-salvation-for-ireland-1.3208417?mode=amp

Is there a better writer about football working in an Irish newspaper? So cogent.

lawred2

HelloMuddha wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/ken-early-without-a-system-there-is-no-salvation-for-ireland-1.3208417?mode=amp

Is there a better writer about football working in an Irish newspaper? So cogent.

I love it - he's so acerbic.

dulux99

I'm only being a nosey bollox here, but does anyone have any Idea if the likes of Jonathan Wilson etc would get paid for appearing on second captains? Or would the payment be in 'exposure'?

Beersmith

Defo gets paid a few hundred. Sickening when miguel is on getting paid for tripe

Ciaran_B

Really liked the sting they had from the hurling yesterday.

Seamy Fitz

dulux99 wrote: »

I'm only being a nosey bollox here, but does anyone have any Idea if the likes of Jonathan Wilson etc would get paid for appearing on second captains? Or would the payment be in 'exposure'?

Not that anyone asked for this info but here's my tuppence worth on SC contributors.

On Jonathan Wilson - He's brilliant.

After that my favourite contributors are US Murph, Andy Lee, Malachy Clerkin.

To quote Oisin McConville -they need to change awp the rugby. Shane Horgan is hard work (sorry Mark!). I've mixed feeling on Oisin. Glad they got rid of Anthony Moyles - Quirke is good and so is Karl Manion although his voice can be hard work.

Overall - world service is still well worth the money compared to the competition. I also feel like I owe them money for listening to them ad-free for 4 years.

Say Your Number

Loved Ken's description of watching the Ireland match with bored and apathetic relatives.

Murph understandably sounded a little rough yesterday.

Ol' Donie

My bank card expired at the end of last month, and for some reason Patreon keeps telling me my payment has not gone through using my new details.

Anyone else have this problem? It's sooo f*ckin annoying.

Ciaran_B

Say Your Number wrote: »

Loved Ken's description of watching the Ireland match with bored and apathetic relatives.

Murph understandably sounded a little rough yesterday.

Johnny Glynn sounded fit for his bed today.

HelloMuddha

I've only recently started posting on boards in general, not sure if this was posted before but might interest people. It's an interview with Mark Horgan. Interesting enough if a bit short.

https://www.businesspost.ie/business/second-captains-mark-horgan-reveals-secret-good-podcast-393701

weadick

Got so sick of the cringy 'banter' on Newstalk between 'Killer' and 'the lads' after the last few Ireland games. Noone really comes close to Eoin and Ken when it comes the (mis)fortunes of the international team. I was getting by on just the one weekly free podcast up to now but just decided to stump up the fiver a month to get full access.

So far I have worked my way back through some of the old Players Chair ones with Quinn, Kerr and McCarthy. Are there any other old podcasts that might be worth listening back to even now?

riemann

weadick wrote: »

Got so sick of the cringy 'banter' on Newstalk between 'Killer' and 'the lads' after the last few Ireland games. Noone really comes close to Eoin and Ken when it comes the (mis)fortunes of the international team. I was getting by on just the one weekly free podcast up to now but just decided to stump up the fiver a month to get full access.

So far I have worked my way back through some of the old Players Chair ones with Quinn, Kerr and McCarthy. Are there any other old podcasts that might be worth listening back to even now?

There's one with Sean Dyche back at the beginning.

lawred2

I want to hear more from Cian O Neill on football. Refreshingly eloquent. No cliches and actual insight. Pity that it took until the week of the final to hear from him.

corwill

I want to hear less Miguel Delaney. Does every bloody piece have to come back to his willingness to eat a yard of Pep's poop? Quite aside from his gasping, staccato delivery of his wibblings.

Ol' Donie

corwill wrote: »

I want to hear less Miguel Delaney. Does every bloody piece have to come back to his willingness to eat a yard of Pep's poop? Quite aside from his gasping, staccato delivery of his wibblings.

How does he find time to even watch football? So far this week I've heard him on MOTD extra on Sunday and OTB & SC yesterday. And I haven't exactly been looking for him.

Raoul

Ol' Donie wrote: »

How does he find time to even watch football? So far this week I've heard him on MOTD extra on Sunday and OTB & SC yesterday. And I haven't exactly been looking for him.

How does he get on so many things??

Loafing Oaf

Raoul wrote: »

How does he get on so many things??

Producers must think he's half Spanish and therefore an authority on footie and half-Irish and therefore an eloquent, poetic speaker of English.

As to how far he lives up to either of these stereotypes I'll leave it up to yourselves to judge...

dastardly00

corwill wrote: »

I want to hear less Miguel Delaney. Does every bloody piece have to come back to his willingness to eat a yard of Pep's poop? Quite aside from his gasping, staccato delivery of his wibblings.

I was enjoying the football podcast until Miguel came on. I then stopped listening

corwill

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Producers must think he's half Spanish and therefore an authority on footie and half-Irish and therefore an eloquent, poetic speaker of English.

As to how far he lives up to either of these stereotypes I'll leave it up to yourselves to judge...

What surprises me is the seemingly high regard in which he's held by journos who I have time for, Lowe, Honigstein, Fanning come to mind.

He's a flute on Twitter, too, to cap it all.

lawred2

corwill wrote: »

What surprises me is the seemingly high regard in which he's held by journos who I have time for, Lowe, Honigstein, Fanning come to mind.

He's a flute on Twitter, too, to cap it all.

I love that insult - always have

And Delaney is tailor made for it

Arghus

I thought it was a noticably weak football show yesterday. Ken was allowed to ramble on for twenty whole minutes about De Boer story - which is an interesting story, but really not that important in the context of the wide world of football - no one apart from Palace fans, which there are fck all of in Ireland, is going to give a flying fck about all of it in a fortnight's time.

He really hyped it up - "the most stupid thing in the history of The Premier League" - almost it felt to justify talking about it at such great length. Ken is great and all, but from time to time he just becomes fixated on a subject and starts parsing it for deeper meaning and ends up like a dog chasing his tail. I gave a sigh of relief when they moved on to talking about Liverpool and, of course, the inevitable Mourinho conversation - based, as always, around something he said in an interview or press conference.

Then they spent fifteen minutes talking to Miguel Delaney about the De Boer sacking. Jesus Christ.

dulux99

weadick wrote: »

Got so sick of the cringy 'banter' on Newstalk between 'Killer' and 'the lads' after the last few Ireland games. Noone really comes close to Eoin and Ken when it comes the (mis)fortunes of the international team. I was getting by on just the one weekly free podcast up to now but just decided to stump up the fiver a month to get full access.

So far I have worked my way back through some of the old Players Chair ones with Quinn, Kerr and McCarthy. Are there any other old podcasts that might be worth listening back to even now?

I liked the players chair with Damien Duff. He seems like a sound chap

Kingp35

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

Ol' Donie

Kingp35 wrote: »

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

Never. It's my favourite slot on the show.

dastardly00

Kingp35 wrote: »

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

Remember, this is just a football game, no matter who wins or loses.

Ciaran_B

Kingp35 wrote: »

Does anyone else skip all of US Murph?

I've no interest in American sport but I always listen to him.

Dots1982

lawred2 wrote: »

I want to hear more from Cian O Neill on football. Refreshingly eloquent. No cliches and actual insight. Pity that it took until the week of the final to hear from him.

Very eloquent, not sure he provides that much insight for me. Alan Brogan on the Irish independent podcast provides a decent amount of insight into Dublin and Jim Gavin this week.

Dots1982

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Raoul wrote: »

How does he get on so many things??

Producers must think he's half Spanish and therefore an authority on footie and half-Irish and therefore an eloquent, poetic speaker of English.

As to how far he lives up to either of these stereotypes I'll leave it up to yourselves to judge...

The thing you've got to understand with Miguel and English journalism is that English football journalism is based around getting "scoops". I don't think Miguel is good into a microphone but he is good at breaking stories and it does seem he has contacts feeding him information. He broke Rooney going back to Everton in February which was a good story for him to get in fairness.

Ol' Donie

Dots1982 wrote: »

Very eloquent, not sure he provides that much insight for me. Alan Brogan on the Irish independent podcast provides a decent amount of insight into Dublin and Jim Gavin this week.

Must give that a listen. Thanks.

corwill

Dots1982 wrote: »

The thing you've got to understand with Miguel and English journalism is that English football journalism is based around getting "scoops". I don't think Miguel is good into a microphone but he is good at breaking stories and it does seem he has contacts feeding him information. He broke Rooney going back to Everton in February which was a good story for him to get in fairness.

Well, he's podcast poison, unpleasant on Twitter, and his analysis, such as it is, articles are unctuous waffle. The day I'd miss him off SC would be a long time coming.