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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Floyd via DQ
    It's either Khabib or Nate or he dosn't fight until after the new year.

    Khabib is the #1 ranked light weight, he's absolutely relevant.

    I know he is Number 1, I just thought he has issues about whether he is staying in UFC or that weight division


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Floyd via DQ
    Lt Dan wrote: »
    I know he is Number 1, I just thought he has issues about whether he is staying in UFC or that weight division

    He's staying at 155, him and Nate are the only people not booked who make any sense for Conor to fight.

    It's either McGregor vs Diaz 3 to headline December 31st or McGregor vs Khabib.

    Woodley is injured, ferguson is booked. There is no other fight to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    ... part of me was anticipating some kind of masterclass too.

    Yeah, the part of you that posts on Boards. Well, you didn't get that "masterclass" as you admit, but instead of praising McGregor for being the reason that you didn't (which you should be doing) you are posting nonsense.
    ......your praise of Conor is strange . He was as bad as I thought he was going to be .

    This is an incredulous post! As bad as you thought he was going to be??? :pac:

    Let's check and see if that is any truth in that shall we:
    Mcgregor to land under 50 punches at 4/6 is another nice money maker
    What punch is he going to land ?
    He will not be able to land any punch .

    You couldn't have been more wrong if you tried but instead of admitting that you post and say he was as bad as you thought he would be.......

    Well quite clearly that is absolute rubbish as evidenced by your post history.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Here's one for you and us: let's say Conor's engine was rock solid. Can you say that Floyd beats him on points? I can't say for sure, because for me it was not a case of Floyd biding his time and waiting for his man to gas. It was a case of him not being able to get to it impose a decent successful offence on the longer rangier man, and kind of lucky that Conor's engine depleted.

    Any time Floyd launched his offence on a fresh Conor he had no success..it took Conor to be out on his feet before Floyd started landing clean..

    Nail.on.head. This is a precise summation of the fight.

    Fair play, walshie, massive respect to you for your posts since the fight.

    No idea what fight these people were watching but it sure ain't the same one most people were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Conor via DQ
    Conditioning for boxing is very different.

    But the Mendes fight was before his cardio was shown up. I'd have hoped he'd wrestled or grappled enough in the meantime to improving his fitness and maybe it is still an issue in MMA.

    I just don't think gassing last night is necessarily indicative that he hasn't worked on it.

    I hope he has cos if he fights Khabib and gets into a lot of wrestling / grappling, that's very taxing

    I don't remember him gassing against Mendes, that 'gas face' that's familiar from the 2 Diaz fights .......the first we were led to believe was down to a pre fight infection .....but then the 2nd fight it came 3rd round, arguably in both fights he was clear ahead but not making any real inroad when he gassed ......again last night he may not have been ahead but he wasn't behind by much ..........but making no impression, it's weird he begins to look drunk in the face and it's very visible, it's as if he doesn't knock an opponent down early he gets some sort of mental or anxiety block that makes him look shagged


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,763 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    I don't remember him gassing against Mendes, that 'gas face' that's familiar from the 2 Diaz fights .......the first we were led to believe was down to a pre fight infection .....but then the 2nd fight it came 3rd round, arguably in both fights he was clear ahead but not making any real inroad when he gassed ......again last night he may not have been ahead but he wasn't behind by much ..........but making no impression, it's weird he begins to look drunk in the face and it's very visible, it's as if he doesn't knock an opponent down early he gets some sort of mental or anxiety block that makes him look shagged

    I didn't say he gassed against Mendes. I just don't think it's necessarily relevant because his stamina wasn't really called into question til Diaz when he would have made an effort to address it and similarly for this fight.

    I don't think the fight last night is necessarily relevant to his tank in MMA because it's a different type of conditioning.

    That said, maybe it is indicative and something he really needs to address.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    For the 'He won't land a punch' crowd.


    giphy.gif

    And for the " It was fatigue" people

    Lets take a look at what it looked like when Floyd Landed on Conor

    50-cent2.png?strip=all&quality=100&w=595

    One person doesn't even look phased...the other looks so shook his snot jumped out his damn nose like " The f*** was that?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,448 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    pone2012 wrote: »
    And for the " It was fatigue" people

    Lets take a look at what it looked like when Floyd Landed on Conor

    50-cent2.png?strip=all&quality=100&w=595

    One person doesn't even look phased...the other looks so shook his snot jumped out his damn nose like " The f*** was that?"

    You sure sold it with those two images...how did I miss the so obvious?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭veganrun


    Slightly off topic but did anyone here order this on Sky Sports Box Office then have problems watching it?  I ordered it via the remote and it was recorded but this morning the recording refuses to play.  I went to watch the replay on the Box Office channel and all I get is a blue screen and the menu bar thing at the bottom.  The channel was working last night as I watched the first few minutes of it after midnight although for some reason the menu programme bar thing at the bottom wouldn't go away.

    I phoned Sky 3 times and they kept telling me it would be fixed later today and it's a known issue that other people are having too but so far, nothing.  As of now, 8pm, it's still b*******d :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    Yeah, the part of you that posts on Boards. Well, you didn't get that "masterclass" as you admit, but instead of praising McGregor for being the reason that you didn't (which you should be doing) you are posting nonsense.

    Actually I have praised Conor... you should go back and read some of my posts from earlier today!

    But my praise stops short of recognising him as any kind of legitimate contender to win this fight... because he never had a chance to begin with. (which I told you numerous times prior to this fight)

    And nothing he did in there, changed that situation!
    No idea what fight these people were watching but it sure ain't the same one most people were.

    I watched a fight, where we were told that Conor had a chance at causing an upset... but he had no such chance!

    - inferior skills
    - no KO power
    - no stamina
    - no chance!

    Forget about brownie points, for landing weak punches or "lasting until the 10th"... or even winning a couple of rounds...

    We were told that Conor had a legit chance of an upset.... he didn't... and you consistently lost your sh!t, whenever anyone had the audacity to call this what it was!

    Without the possibility of a KO... there was no chance of an upset. How long he lasted, is therefor meaningless. (but well done to Conor, for toughing it out anyway)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Yeah, the part of you that posts on Boards. Well, you didn't get that "masterclass" as you admit, but instead of praising McGregor for being the reason that you didn't (which you should be doing) you are posting nonsense.



    This is an incredulous post! As bad as you thought he was going to be??? :pac:

    Let's check and see if that is any truth in that shall we:







    You couldn't have been more wrong if you tried but instead of admitting that you post and say he was as bad as you thought he would be.......

    Well quite clearly that is absolute rubbish as evidenced by your post history.

    Yeah I was basing it off previous Floyd fights . floyd was terrible but it had nothing to do with conor making him look that way

    Conor was awkward for the first couple of rounds and that was it . literally nothing after that and gassing like that was embarrassing

    Floyd was terrible and only for the referee would of tee'd off on a rabbit caught in a headlight

    One to forget all round . I genuinely don't know what I should be praising Conor for though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Alot of people saying they were disappointed by Floyd, which is fair enough, he wasn't great. But to be honest, last night was Floyd "going on the offensive". He doesn't do it much, if ever. It was effectively new territory for him taking the fight to someone. So of course he was going to be sloppy. Doing that is not his game.

    Have to laugh at the people who are coming on to laugh at the people who said Conor wouldn't land punch. If Floyd fought defensively/like his usual self, Conor wouldn't have landed a punch of note, that simple. Although I guess the "wouldn't land a punch" quote is mainly in reference to Conor not being able to hit any top pro boxer, not just Floyd. In that case, he would land a punch at some stage against most top boxers, but would get pummeled in the meantime. He's lucky he was in the ring with Floyd going on the offensive as opposed to GGG.

    Floyd is simply unbeatable and that's coming from someone who hates him. The only person who may have been able to beat him at one point was Pacquiao in his prime. His hand speed may have been able to open Floyd up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭willowthewisp


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Read a lot on here about how Floyd wouldn't last in the octagon, and that's correct I would imagine. He is not stupid enough to think that he would (think his press conference comment was just a throw away remark).
    Truth of the matter is that McGregor and his people (Kavanagh etc) chased down Mayweather for this fight and came out spouting that they would beat him at his own game.
    Well they didn't .
    And Mayweather won't be stupid enough to engage in an MMA bout either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Tilikum


    Nail.on.head. This is a precise summation of the fight.

    Fair play, walshie, massive respect to you for your posts since the fight.

    No idea what fight these people were watching but it sure ain't the same one most people were.

    I woke at 6 this morning and came on here to read about the fight. You were posting such ****e it's was embarrassing. Posting in multiple threads the gif of Conor's one uppercut he landed. And you're back on now. I would imagine you're a grow man.

    Genuinely frightening.

    To me Conor is a legend....how well he's done for himself. He made his name in a weight division he should never have been fighting in. But **** me some of his fans are actually retarded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    For those who say Floyd would have a chance in MMA against McGregor and there are a few on this thread...

    Did you see whenever they clinched, how easy Conor got to Floyds back? That need's to happen once and it's game over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Floyd via DQ
    People reading way too much into Floyd's performance. He treated it like a glorified spar. Those first few rounds he was literally just getting a look at McGregor, he hardly threw a punch. It wasn't him getting outboxed. He'd fight someone like Spence completely differently to how he fought Conor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    You are talking nonsense, Conor outnoxed Floyd in the early rounds and displayed some superb slipping and counter punching. Conor's abilty to slip and counter is elite, it's sublime. Even against the great Floyd Mayweather in his boxing debut he could do it.

    Floyd is not unbeatable, I see Errol Spence Jr beating him.

    Me talking nonsense? Relatively speaking, you do realise it's not actually that hard to outbox Mayweather once he opens up, walks straight at you and goes toe to toe with you? If he fought like that against the other top pro's he would of lost many fights by this stage. Certain people keep judging Conor's early round performance as if he was fighting standard Floyd, he wasn't. If he took the bout seriously and seen Conor as an actual threat you would of got a very different Floyd in the ring last night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,448 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Morrison J wrote: »
    People reading way too much into Floyd's performance. He treated it like a glorified spar. Those first few rounds he was literally just getting a look at McGregor, he hardly threw a punch. It wasn't him getting outboxed. He'd fight someone like Spence completely differently to how he fought Conor.

    Could be true. But we can only assess on what actually happened. May have done this is all hyperbole..

    Facts are that he looked poor for large parts of the fight and was very ineffective on offence for large parts of the fight.

    Closed the show nicely. That's about the best I can do..

    Bear in mind we need to analyse and mark this based off who was in the ring...

    One a debut pro from another sport. The other, the self proclaimed TBE.

    I could only separate them on conditioning. That, for TBE is quite sad...

    Floyd even looked awkward and novice like..

    Put it this way. If you landed on earth and watched tonnes of MMA and boxing without being allowed see or hear of Floyd or Conor, and then you saw the action last night, it wouldn't be all that clear as to who was the career boxer based off everything but stamina.

    This is not me over-praising Conor. It's more me assessing fairly and honestly the performance of TBE vs. Conor, a novice pro.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭Reati


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Me talking nonsense?

    Your arguing with die hards. If Mcgregor walked out and got KO'd by Mayweather with the first punch, there would be a story about how Mcgregor planned that so Mayweather could get the 50 - 0 and then set it up for a re-match.

    Even in losing the fight, the hero worship goes on. He's brave for taking the fight... he is tough for lasting 10 rounds... he was winning the fight in the first few rounds... the ref shouldn't have stopped it...

    The ref shouldn't have stopped it. Seeing Mcgregor on his arse might have brought a sense of realism to the diehards on the fact he was getting a hiding in those last two rounds.

    Doubt he is sitting around arguing online. Bet he is still counting the dollars of that payday!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    Reati wrote: »
    Your arguing with die hards. If Mcgregor walked out and got KO'd by Mayweather with the first punch, there would be a story about how Mcgregor planned that so Mayweather could get the 50 - 0 and then set it up for a re-match.

    Even in losing the fight, the hero worship goes on. He's brave for taking the fight... he is tough for lasting 10 rounds... he was winning the fight in the first few rounds... the ref shouldn't have stopped it...

    The ref shouldn't have stopped it. Seeing Mcgregor on his arse might have brought a sense of realism to the diehards on the fact he was getting a hiding in those last two rounds.

    Doubt he is sitting around arguing online. Bet he is still counting the dollars of that payday!!!

    It's as if some people have never seen Floyd fight other than last night. The best one so far is the only difference between the two was stamina. The McGregor die-hards are great with their "if's" when he loses, but if you bring an "if" into it after he wins you're shut down immediately


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    walshb wrote: »
    Could be true. But we can only assess on what actually happened. May have done this is all hyperbole..

    Facts are that he looked poor for large parts of the fight and was very ineffective on offence for large parts of the fight.

    Closed the show nicely. That's about the best I can do..

    Bear in mind we need to analyse and mark this based off who was in the ring...

    One a debut pro from another sport. The other, the self proclaimed TBE.

    I could only separate them on conditioning. That, for TBE is quite sad...

    Floyd even looked awkward and novice like..

    Put it this way. If you landed on earth and watched tonnes of MMA and boxing without being allowed see or hear of Floyd or Conor, and then you saw the action last night, it wouldn't be all that clear as to who was the career boxer based off everything but stamina.

    This is not me over-praising Conor. It's more me assessing fairly and honestly the performance of TBE vs. Conor, a novice pro.


    Remember in the lead up to this fight you said it could be staged . That Floyd could carry him for a while and then finish it .

    Not saying I agree now but you called it . Kudos


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Floyd via DQ
    Some people seem to be getting offended on McGregor's behalf. You're caring more than the man himself does.
    He knew he didn't stand a chance. It was all about the money.

    Oh and that uppercut gif is embarrassing to be holding up as some sort of proof that he can box. There was nothing behind it, barely registered a flinch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,448 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Remember in the lead up to this fight you said it could be staged . That Floyd could carry him for a while and then finish it .

    Not saying I agree now but you called it . Kudos

    And nor do I agree with it. He did not carry him..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    I agree Floyd was very poor . But your praise of Conor is strange . He was as bad as I thought he was going to be .

    Ten rounds.

    Conor, on his pro debut, went almost ten rounds with a pro, 49-0, multiple time/division champion.

    You can dress it up however you like. You can pretend that Mayweather could have finished it at any moment, but the fact remains he couldn't - because when he tried to finish in the 9th, he couldn't.
    sonofenoch wrote: »
    an mma fighter doesn't translate to boxing no more than a boxer translates to mma....

    Conor made it through 9/12 rounds before being finished in the 10th.
    A pro boxer against a top 20 MMA is very, very unlikely to get out of the first in MMA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    walshb wrote: »
    And nor do I agree with it. He did not carry him..

    Really I thought it went exactly how a carried fight would go . Allow him punch out first few rounds . Toy with him mid rounds . Finish in championship rounds . It's strange you are so dismissive of it now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Naos wrote: »
    Ten rounds.

    Conor, on his pro debut, went almost ten rounds with a pro, 49-0, multiple time/division champion.

    You can dress it up however you like. You can pretend that Mayweather could have finished it at any moment, but the fact remains he couldn't - because when he tried to finish in the 9th, he couldn't.

    Ok fair play to him hanging in there . He's a tough guy I'll give him that . Having nothing left and being in a ring isn't a nice place to be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Conor was better than I thought he would be.
    Floyd wasn't as good as he should have been, but he has been retired for over 2 years.

    It was like a cat playing with his prey for a good while, and the prey put up a good fight.

    This two year thing... Conor hadn't fought for almost a year.

    Also, all I read about before the fight was that Floyd is renowned for never getting out of shape, does 10 mile runs for fun at 3am in the morning... now it's he's been retired for two years.

    Moving the goalposts majorly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,448 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Really I thought it went exactly how a carried fight would go . Allow him punch out first few rounds . Toy with him mid rounds . Finish in championship rounds . It's strange you are so dismissive of it now

    Well it's obvious that your idea of a boxer carrying another is way off mine based off what you saw last night...nothing to do with me being dismissive.

    I will say with 100 percent confidence from all my years watching boxing, that Floyd did not at all carry Conor...

    I will also add that he was made work damn hard to end that fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Floyd via DQ
    This is an interesting listen: the BBC 5 Live take on things:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05dgdkn

    They were very complimentary about McGregor and also acknowledged the American media generally have been much kinder than the British media.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    walshb wrote: »
    Well it's obvious that your idea of a boxer carrying another is way off mine based off what you saw last night...nothing to do with me being dismissive.

    I will say with 100 percent confidence from all my years watching boxing, that Floyd did not at all carry Conor...

    I will also add that he was made work damn hard to end that fight.

    Well he did carry him on the basis that he fought completely different to how he normally fights seeing as there was literally no threat from Conor


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