Eir rural FTTH thread

Dr. Nick · 20-07-2017 07:41PM

Cable laying on Ratoath to Dunshaughlin road this evening.
More importantly (to me anyway

) , orange and black cables have reached Kiltale (Tara Exch), all laid out on the side of the main Dublin/Trim road.

John mac · 20-07-2017 07:50PM

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Cable laying on Ratoath to Dunshaughlin road this evening.
More importantly, orange and black cables have reached Kiltale (Tara Exch), alllaid out on the side of the main Dublin/Trim road.

they had them laid out from Dunboyne nursing home through Summerhill and on to Rathmolyon last week .
orange/black /blue cable ~12mm ish diameter (i was driving so its just a guess)
as you say just laid out along the side of the road , coiled up every 20 meters

Dr. Nick · 20-07-2017 07:57PM

John mac wrote: »

they had them laid out from Dunboyne nursing home through Summerhill and on to Rathmolyon last week .
orange/black /blue cable ~12mm ish diameter (i was driving so its just a guess)
as you say just laid out along the side of the road , coiled up every 20 meters

Yes, they had put little wooden stakes every 10m down last week, all numbered. Cables are now alongside these.

redfacedbear · 21-07-2017 10:12AM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Not sure if this is the right thread for it

I'm in an orange area. the line stops a good distance down our road, we aren't on the eir fibre rollout map http://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/

there are KN vans right outside the house now, with a big black spool, crane thing 4 vans and a further flat bed type thing at the top of the road. I asked them was it for internet, it is they said. I said but we're not on the blue line so to speak, "well it's being run here and everywhere will get it eventually" they said

should I get my hopes up?

I reported a few months back on a road down my way where they had gone a good 400-500m past the end of the blue line with the fibre. That road has now gone live but only as far as the end of the blue line. Any eircodes for houses beyond the limit are still failing on the eir website and blank on the openeir map. Fibre and splice boxes up but not live, must be beyond frustrating.

I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you!

frozenfrozen · 21-07-2017 10:38AM

redfacedbear wrote: »

I reported a few months back on a road down my way where they had gone a good 400-500m past the end of the blue line with the fibre. That road has now gone live but only as far as the end of the blue line. Any eircodes for houses beyond the limit are still failing on the eir website and blank on the openeir map. Fibre and splice boxes up but not live, must be beyond frustrating.

I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you!

Ok thanks that's me back down to planet earth.

I suppose it's just as cheap for them to run everywhere they will eventually cover, now, while they're here and waiting on other stuff rather than just sitting idle.

redfacedbear · 21-07-2017 12:06PM

I don't really get the logic of it myself - there's capital there that they could be getting an income on but they've chosen not to - in anticipation of (maybe) winning a contract from Government to get a subsidy to put in the capital in a few years time.

I would suspect the contract they've signed with the Government now might be an obstacle, but the road I'm talking about was installed well before that contract was concluded.

rob808 · 21-07-2017 01:52PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

redfacedbear wrote: »

I reported a few months back on a road down my way where they had gone a good 400-500m past the end of the blue line with the fibre. That road has now gone live but only as far as the end of the blue line. Any eircodes for houses beyond the limit are still failing on the eir website and blank on the openeir map. Fibre and splice boxes up but not live, must be beyond frustrating.

I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you!

Ok thanks that's me back down to planet earth.

I suppose it's just as cheap for them to run everywhere they will eventually cover, now, while they're here and waiting on other stuff rather than just sitting idle.

Try check the NBP map see if your house in light blue.

frozenfrozen · 21-07-2017 02:20PM

rob808 wrote: »

Try check the NBP map see if your house in light blue.

We are in a wider purple zone but not blue over the house, light blue down the road where there has been another hanging coil of cable for months like there is at our house now. Blue marking shows that pole pictured with the new coil put up yesterday

is that the right map I should be looking at

Dr. Nick · 21-07-2017 07:30PM

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Cable laying on Ratoath to Dunshaughlin road this evening.
More importantly (to me anyway ) , orange and black cables have reached Kiltale (Tara Exch), all laid out on the side of the main Dublin/Trim road.

Does any of this look familiar?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 21-07-2017 07:40PM

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Does any of this look familiar?

Are you sure that is related to the FTTH rollout? Just googling the cable description it seems to be some sort of seismic monitoring? It is nothing like anything posted already in the thread.

http://www.ymg.ru/en/content/seismic-equipment

http://geospace-ufa.ru/catalog/kabel/kabel-telmor.html

Gonzo · 21-07-2017 07:46PM

Allison Puny Appetite wrote: »

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Does any of this look familiar?

Are you sure that is related to the FTTH rollout? Just googling the cable description it seems to be some sort of seismic monitoring? It is nothing like anything posted already in the thread.

http://www.ymg.ru/en/content/seismic-equipment

http://geospace-ufa.ru/catalog/kabel/kabel-telmor.html

What's happening on the ratoath-dunshsughlin road is road surveying signs went up the other day.

Dr. Nick · 21-07-2017 07:50PM

Gonzo wrote: »

What's happening on the ratoath-dunshsughlin road is road surveying signs went up the other day.

Ah damn.

Tks.

niallb · 22-07-2017 08:34AM

http://www.meath.ie/CountyCouncil/NewsandEvents/Name,66252,en.html

Meath County Council website wrote:

Teck Ireland wishes to advise the general public that a seismic survey will be carried out over the next few weeks by contractors IMC GSL - Surveying will continue for approx. 25 days.
The first road to be surveyed is the "R125". The survey will include Rathmoylon, Summerhill and Ratoath.

Date Released: 06 July 2017

Teck Ireland wishes to advise the general public that a seismic survey will be carried out over the next few weeks by contractors IMC GSL. This survey follows similar surveys carried out in county Meath in recent years.

This survey will be a road survey using truck-mounted Vibroseis units and will be accompanied by a road crew placing small measuring units connected by cables at the side of road. Surveying will commence on or about the 30 June 2017 and will continue for approx. 25 days.

The first road to be surveyed is the "R125". The survey will include Rathmoylon, Summerhill and Ratoath. The survey will produce geological data from depths as great as 2 km and is an element of our on-going mineral exploration programme.

Teck Ireland wishes to apologise for any inconvenience arising from this work.

grouchyman · 22-07-2017 03:24PM

FTTH Install by Eir scheduled for tuesday Morning 150 mb. I think everything I have at home is 802.11g (54mb)

Jpmarn · 22-07-2017 03:27PM

Dr. Nick wrote: »

Does any of this look familiar?

There was a seismic survey done on my area some years ago. The cables similar to what you photographed was on the roadside. A big truck would come along banging on the road and the echoes would be picked up by the probes connected to these cable. The cables are collected to special equipment and a laptop computer which records the echoes.

Jpmarn · 22-07-2017 03:53PM

From as of 3.30 pm on Saturday 22 July 2017 there is a fiber cable up on the road just outside my house. Reporting on the from the Inch St Lawernce Limerick exchange area serving Caherconlish and Ballyneety villages. There is a hive of activity throughout the exchange area today and for the last few days. Almost all remaining areas are being wired up. My road is one of the last road with just the road up to the exchange to be wired to connect the cables just gone up. South of Ballyneety a fiber cable is been run on the main road south all the way up to Sheehan's Cross (Kirby's Pub) which I did not expect. There are even loops for splice boxes beyond Ballingarde cross where premises are not officially included in the 300k rollout. Another week will probably complete the exchange area if the splice box technicians get the round completed. A crowd called Deffusion assisted by KN networks were erecting the cables. BTW the crooked poles down my road were replaced yesterday by KN.

Pbbuster · 24-07-2017 10:37AM

Anyone having issues with ftth installation in the Galway area?? My forecast date is now 23/10/2017

d31b0y · 24-07-2017 11:01AM

I have to install new ducting on my private lane before install will go ahead. There is no ducting there at the moment and the current phone line just runs along a thin pipe on the ground.
There are three houses on the lane but I believe only two will go ahead with the install. To be on the safe side, what size ducting would you recommend for three cores + some over?

grouchyman · 24-07-2017 11:57AM

Pbbuster wrote: »

Anyone having issues with ftth installation in the Galway area?? My forecast date is now 23/10/2017

I'm on the Castleblakeney exchange. Install due tomorrow. Opeeir rang this morning to confirm the install. What exchange are you?

Jpmarn · 24-07-2017 12:18PM

Around 1200m of Fibre cable was either put up on poles or fed into ducts last Saturday on my road in the Inch St. Lawrence Co. Limerick Exchange area. Saw vans passing up the road to lay more fibre cable on the road to the exchange building to connect up what was laid 2 days ago. No splice boxes yet but some of the other roads have splice boxes but other have yet to get them.

Johnboy1951 · 24-07-2017 04:33PM

d31b0y wrote: »

I have to install new ducting on my private lane before install will go ahead. There is no ducting there at the moment and the current phone line just runs along a thin pipe on the ground.
There are three houses on the lane but I believe only two will go ahead with the install. To be on the safe side, what size ducting would you recommend for three cores + some over?

Ask openeir to specify the ducting.

It might be easier to erect a few poles and string the fibre overhead.

Again openeir would be the ones to ask, IMO.

garroff · 25-07-2017 06:55AM

My road was supposed to go live on Wednesday. Spoke to installer, who was working on road yesterday, told me fibre wont be available for another 2 weeks.
After waiting for so long another 2 weeks wont make a difference.

vintagevrs · 25-07-2017 10:48AM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

the question is which is correct?

Openeir are the ones laying the fibre so if they do not have an exact date then eir retail are just guessing.

So I spoke to my current provider of ADSL and asked them about FTTH. They gave the same date that Eir gave so I presume the system that the retailers use for orders/line checks is OpenEirs portal and this is where the specific date of the 2nd August came from. Still not DPs up, just the fibre on the poles. So I hope there's so activity outside this week.

Johnboy1951 · 25-07-2017 10:53AM

vintagevrs wrote: »

So I spoke to my current provider of ADSL and asked them about FTTH. They gave the same date that Eir gave so I presume the system that the retailers use for orders/line checks is OpenEirs portal and this is where the specific date of the 2nd August came from. Still not DPs up, just the fibre on the poles. So I hope there's so activity outside this week.

All eir's dates are estimates, until the very last stage when the connection is ordered after the physical structure is in place.
So eir gave your present provider their estimate and you get the same date from both.

I have much more confidence in openeir's dates.

knipex · 25-07-2017 10:59AM

vintagevrs wrote: »

So I spoke to my current provider of ADSL and asked them about FTTH. They gave the same date that Eir gave so I presume the system that the retailers use for orders/line checks is OpenEirs portal and this is where the specific date of the 2nd August came from. Still not DPs up, just the fibre on the poles. So I hope there's so activity outside this week.

Be Very careful.

I know of more than one person who was signed up to a special offer on "fibre" with their current supplier to later discover they were tied up to contracts for 2 years that were actually fiber to the cabinet.. In many cases they were 3, 4 5 or more kilometers from the cabinet so getting 1 mb down..

When FTTH did become available they ended up having to buy out 2 year contracts or stick with their current crappy copper..

Funny these "special offers" only became available 2 to 3 monhts before FTTH became available..

vintagevrs · 25-07-2017 12:01PM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I have much more confidence in openeir's dates.

That's my point though. My current provider would have got that date from OpenEir, they wouldn't deal with Eir.

vintagevrs · 25-07-2017 12:03PM

knipex wrote: »

Be Very careful.

I know of more than one person who was signed up to a special offer on "fibre" with their current supplier to later discover they were tied up to contracts for 2 years that were actually fiber to the cabinet.. In many cases they were 3, 4 5 or more kilometers from the cabinet so getting 1 mb down..

When FTTH did become available they ended up having to buy out 2 year contracts or stick with their current crappy copper..

Funny these "special offers" only became available 2 to 3 monhts before FTTH became available..

Yeah I'll not be signing up to anything. Thanks though.

RoYoBo · 25-07-2017 02:15PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

That's my point though. My current provider would have got that date from OpenEir, they wouldn't deal with Eir.

I have conflicting dates from Eir and Open Eir - Eir said July 19th (still not happening on my road) and Open Eir told me November by email, twice (which looks more likely). My entire area is included in the live figures for June! Make of that what you will ....

vintagevrs · 25-07-2017 02:23PM

Yeah my case is similar. Told next week by the providers, but OpenEir emailed and said end of this year. Next week is very unlikely as the work isn't finished yet. My guess is the portal that OpenEir provide the suppliers has these specific dates, and they are failing to get the work done in time.

As for OpenEir emailing me and others, which I found surprising as I would expect them only to deal with Telcos and not the public, I would say they are just being safe and non specific.

RoYoBo · 25-07-2017 02:38PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

As for OpenEir emailing me and others, which I found surprising as I would expect them only to deal with Telcos and not the public, I would say they are just being safe and non specific.

I agree - also very surprised that OpenEir replied to my emails. Some sporadic bits of work have been done in our area, but the odd Eir van doesn't hang about long and little appears to have advanced on the poles.

Although I have nothing to base this on in terms of proof, I get the feeling that Eir are making an appearance here and there in a completely ad hoc fashion to look as if they are doing something in lots of different areas.

As has been mentioned many times on this thread, there is no independent oversight, no definitive proof of connections made or possible and very little in terms of consequences if Eir don't meet these targets.

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