Clare GAA discussion thread

BnB wrote: »

Which Terrace (Blackrock or City End) are the Clare fans in on Saturday in Cork ?

In the old PUC it was always the City End - I'm sure it will be business as usual in the new PUC!

windy shepard henderson wrote:

still not worried though ...

Fair play. If in doubt go with irrational confidence

In Dublin later so one of the "few" not going to game. Unfortunately, cannot see how Clare might win this. Think it would take either a performance that would be completely out of the blue or an utter collapse by Tipp. Either could happen but I doubt it unfortunately.

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Poor puck outs and Junior B standard shooting cost us about 10 points today. Same old Clare.

One championship win. Need more than that

What was today's wide count?

Just back. Gutted to be out. Fair play to the lads, they did fight hard but ultimately short again.

Basically looking around social media, its puckouts, wides, puckout, wides, puckout, wides etc, etc, etc. In fairness these issues were at the center of our downfall today.

Looking back realistically, the half forward line was very poor today. Conlon getting the hook before half time really showed this, but Collins and Malone were not much better than him and we couldn't win any ball in the first half. This off course was compounded before half time as Fahy tried to change up the strategy and go shorter, leading to disastrous consequences, he hit the ball straight to Tipp players at least 3 times before half time that were put back straight over the bar.

Duggan made a massive difference in the second half and really carried the game to Tipp. He has had many chances for Clare but this was definitely his best performance and good on him, hopefully he will be back next year. But I think the management need to seriously look at this area. Malone and Podge should have been taken off sooner but the replacements were not there. The management need to look at the center forward position going forward now with Podge, I'm just not sure going with a player as small as Podge is going to work at this level. Maybe it will I don't know, but it needs to be questioned. Playing himself, Kelly and Galvin at the heart of the team has no physicality and tenacity you need from players to grab the upper hand and go through a dominant period. I think Clare really need a physical player beside Galvin.

At the end of the day if a Clare supporter was told before the championship that O'Brien, McInerney, Galvin, Kelly, Podge, Conlon and McGrath were going to be injured or out of form, we would have felt we wouldn't really have a proper chance of doing something. I don't hold the management too much to blame today, they let the lads go out there to play to their strength, but the players just haven't delivered this year. The management next year have to really focus the players, particularly lads like Fitzgearld, Kelly, Galvin and Conlon, on exactly what role the should be playing in the team. The deciesion making of the Clare team has been nothing short of absolutely clueless. And I would expect to see improvement in the gameplan from the management in this regard next year.

But that's it for another year again. Just to finish, fair play to Conor Cleary too had his finest hour in a Clare shirt and should be proud of his performance.

I was enthralled by some of the tipp points from play. If Clare could only have matched a fraction of their accuracy the the result may have been different.

letowski wrote: »

Just back. Gutted to be out. Fair play to the lads, they did fight hard but ultimately short again.

Basically looking around social media, its puckouts, wides, puckout, wides, puckout, wides etc, etc, etc. In fairness these issues were at the center of our downfall today.

Looking back realistically, the half forward line was very poor today. Conlon getting the hook before half time really showed this, but Collins and Malone were not much better than him and we couldn't win any ball in the first half. This off course was compounded before half time as Fahy tried to change up the strategy and go shorter, leading to disastrous consequences, he hit the ball straight to Tipp players at least 3 times before half time that were put back straight over the bar.

Duggan made a massive difference in the second half and really carried the game to Tipp. He has had many chances for Clare but this was definitely his best performance and good on him, hopefully he will be back next year. But I think the management need to seriously look at this area. Malone and Podge should have been taken off sooner but the replacements were not there. The management need to look at the center forward position going forward now with Podge, I'm just not sure going with a player as small as Podge is going to work at this level. Maybe it will I don't know, but it needs to be questioned. Playing himself, Kelly and Galvin at the heart of the team has no physicality and tenacity you need from players to grab the upper hand and go through a dominant period. I think Clare really need a physical player beside Galvin.

At the end of the day if a Clare supporter was told before the championship that O'Brien, McInerney, Galvin, Kelly, Podge, Conlon and McGrath were going to be injured or out of form, we would have felt we wouldn't really have a proper chance of doing something. I don't hold the management too much to blame today, they let the lads go out there to play to their strength, but the players just haven't delivered this year. The management next year have to really focus the players, particularly lads like Fitzgearld, Kelly, Galvin and Conlon, on exactly what role the should be playing in the team. The deciesion making of the Clare team has been nothing short of absolutely clueless. And I would expect to see improvement in the gameplan from the management in this regard next year.

But that's it for another year again. Just to finish, fair play to Conor Cleary too had his finest hour in a Clare shirt and should be proud of his performance.

at least the problems that have haunted us this year are pretty minor and can be fixed

at the start of the year we complained we had no big players , conor cleary , david fitz cathal malone albeit poor today and the excellent peter dugen have all come to the fore , the two lads from shannon have added a huge dimension to the full forward line , this is the first year of new management and to be fair they have unerthed some really tallented players , through out the league david reidy ian galvin and jason mccarthy lit up the show , cathal mc's return offers us another option while jamie shannahan was probably our best player on the field today

a number of people in the county feel we will regret losing davy as manager the truth is he would never have given a chance to half them lads ,
the club chmpionshiip will offer these guys a chance to put there names forward for permanent starting positions next year


tonight it's rumored that donal og has left the panel , i feel albeit harsh as it might sound its a good move going forward , stop making the game so bloody technical with short passing and stupid puckout strategies and focus on our strong points

one fault today on tactics is we never tested the tipp full backline enough , i feel we have one of the best full forward lins in the country but we ignore them too much

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

at least the problems that have haunted us this year are pretty minor and can be fixed

at the start of the year we complained we had no big players , conor cleary , david fitz cathal malone albeit poor today and the excellent peter dugen have all come to the fore , the two lads from shannon have added a huge dimension to the full forward line , this is the first year of new management and to be fair they have unerthed some really tallented players , through out the league david reidy ian galvin and jason mccarthy lit up the show , cathal mc's return offers us another option while jamie shannahan was probably our best player on the field today

a number of people in the county feel we will regret losing davy as manager the truth is he would never have given a chance to half them lads ,
the club chmpionshiip will offer these guys a chance to put there names forward for permanent starting positions next year


tonight it's rumored that donal og has left the panel , i feel albeit harsh as it might sound its a good move going forward , stop making the game so bloody technical with short passing and stupid puckout strategies and focus on our strong points

one fault today on tactics is we never tested the tipp full backline enough , i feel we have one of the best full forward lins in the country but we ignore them too much

Peter Duggan, the reason I'll buy a season ticket and travel from Cork to watch Clare next spring.Jason McCarthy and Ian Galvin need serious game time as well.

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Peter Duggan, the reason I'll buy a season ticket and travel from Cork to watch Clare next spring.Jason McCarthy and Ian Galvin need serious game time as well.

its time to be ruthless in my opinion if guys like podge . kelly and john conlon are not performing and someone is firing on all cylinders on the bench then the big guns need to be dropped , its whats done in kilkenny hurling and kerry in football

some of the lads on the team might be in there mid 20s but they are at risk of burnout , podge tried every code known to man over the last few years , conlon is around with nearly 10 years now , and tony has no break got in 18 months

I'm going to focus on the positives, cos I know the negatives (and there are many deserved negatives) will definitely get their airing....

Thought the stadium itself and the staff were superb. The Rebel Ambassadors and stewards were really helpful and seemed to be so proud and energised about the big day. We were in North Stand, 406, row T and had fantastic view. The seating is quite steep which give more of an amphitheater feel and you're quite connected to pitch I thought. Anyway, very impressed with it and would much prefer it to Thurles based on today's experience.

Was delighted for Conor Cleary, I've been waiting for him to have a game like today for quite some and he was a pure warrior.

Shane O'Donnell showed flashes of brilliance, and he is so unselfish with the ball it's incredible.

Reidy and Duggan made such a positive contributions when they came on, really really lifted the team and the crowd.

From where I was sitting, and it's always hard to get perspective of entire crowd, it seemed like we had good support today. Much better than any other game this year or last I'd have thought?

Reputable Rog wrote:

Shooting and puck outs aside Clare were by the far the better team today. The Cork crowd around me were enthralled by some of the skill and stick work by Clare today. We died on our feet, can't complain. I'd forgotten however about what a shower of cxxxx the Tipps fans are.

Clare far the better team? Please tell me you are joking. I was one of the Cork crowd who was at the game and I wasn't enthralled with too much of what I saw yesterday. From either team.
IMO Tipp were poor and Clare were awful in what was a bad game. 2 goals kept the first half respectable and a string of soft frees brought clare back in touch before Tipp saw it out comfortably.
Tipp ain't contenders this year and Clare are a long long way from the summit.
By the way if you check over on the tipp forum you'll find they feel the same way about ye.
Whatever happened to mutual respect.

commonsense. wrote: »

Clare far the better team? Please tell me you are joking. I was one of the Cork crowd who was at the game and I wasn't enthralled with too much of what I saw yesterday. From either team.
IMO Tipp were poor and Clare were awful in what was a bad game. 2 goals kept the first half respectable and a string of soft frees brought clare back in touch before Tipp saw it out comfortably.
Tipp ain't contenders this year and Clare are a long long way from the summit.
By the way if you check over on the tipp forum you'll find they feel the same way about ye.
Whatever happened to mutual respect.

while yesterday did have its faults it was a huge improvement on what we are used to seeing under fitz , what pleased most people is that we are playing a more direct game which suites us , our management will take off key players if they are not performing under fitz this would never happen

we gifted tipperary several scores , while yes we got some favorable calls ourselves , neither team could be regarded as all ireland contenders on yesterdays form , but thats what championship is about getting over the line , doing enough to make the next round thats all tipperary wanted after yesterday and that will be there attitude again the next day i am sure

commonsense. wrote: »

Clare far the better team? Please tell me you are joking. I was one of the Cork crowd who was at the game and I wasn't enthralled with too much of what I saw yesterday. From either team.
IMO Tipp were poor and Clare were awful in what was a bad game.

Tipp ain't contenders this year and Clare are a long long way from the summit.
t.

That's Corkness for ya, boi !