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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Floyd via DQ
    I wonder if Floyd will tell him he can't tap out on August 26th at the presser

    Any bookies taking bets on what might happen, I wonder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Conor is 4/1 to throw something at Floyd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    He could go 12 rds....all depends on how the fight unfolds.

    If Floyd wants it slow and easy and comfy that is how it goes. Conor will have next to no say on how the fight flows unless Mayweather gives him a say.

    Several different ways they approach the fight. None of us will know until the fight is in action.

    The main thing being that in no way will Conor be able to manoeuvre or dictate how Floyd (without Floyd's consent) performs. No way. That would be the only thing that I would be close to certain on.

    I agree with you on everything above, I just took your meaning of Atheltic literally , I think Conor is more athletic that is all, with regards to boxing athletic , well then Floyd wipes the floor with him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Conor will have next to no say on how the fight flows unless Mayweather gives him a say.

    Ha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Ha.

    Another thing we agree on. Progress!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Floyd via DQ
    It'll take a lot more than 3 rounds to frustrate Floyd by boxing defensively. He'd be happy to win rounds all night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    If anyone see's any betting on Conor not winning a round let me know thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    It'll take a lot more than 3 rounds to frustrate Floyd by boxing defensively. He'd be happy to win rounds all night.

    Who said he should box defensively for three rounds? :P

    TKO within three is the slim chance prediction......... some defensive boxing very early on.... let Floyd take the fight to McGregor.

    Pressures on him. He's the boxer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Who said he should box defensively for three rounds? :P

    TKO within three is the slim chance prediction......... some defensive boxing very early on.... let Floyd take the fight to McGregor.

    Pressures on him. He's the boxer.

    Haha, have you watched Floyd box before?

    The pressure is on Conor to actually box, don't make me laugh with this pressure on Floyd malarkey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Who said he should box defensively for three rounds? :P

    TKO within three is the slim chance prediction......... some defensive boxing very early on.... let Floyd take the fight to McGregor.

    Pressures on him. He's the boxer.

    Let Floyd take the fight to him . prob the worst thing he could do


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Floyd's a sniper, you don't just stand there and let a sniper take you out. He'll pick you apart without leaving second gear.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO




    Hahahahaha Floyd cant keep a straight face saying the training is too grueling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    Gintonious wrote: »
    The pressure is on Conor to actually box, don't make me laugh with this pressure on Floyd malarkey.

    He's fighting an mma fighter and in the eyes of the boxing public the pressure very much will be on him....... which is precisely why I feel McGregor should fight defensively 'very early on' as if the fight is boring (and it would be if Conor did as I am suggesting) then Floyd will undoubtedly feel pressure to go on the attack.
    Let Floyd take the fight to him . prob the worst thing he could do

    Not with McGregor's counter punching it's not..........that sweet left and that reach advantage...... that's where McGregor's slim chance lies at getting a TKO. Mayweather has no offensive attack that McGregor wouldn't be able to soak up easily. He's 40 years old. Which is why I say Floyd would only win easily if the fights goes passed three rounds, as it's then that he can slowly out box McGregor.

    But the first three rounds are an unpredictable dangerzone for Floyd.

    To say that the worst thing for McGregor would be if Floyd took the fight to him is laughable. That's where Conor excels. Ask Jose Aldo all about that.
    @!!"

    I'm not, before someone retorts with anything like the above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Man you just don't understand .

    I give up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    I wish this fight was tonight so this utter delusion would be over and GGG canelo would be around the corner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO

    Mayweather has no offensive attack that McGregor wouldn't be able to soak up easily. He's 40 years old. Which is why I say Floyd would only win easily if the fights goes passed three rounds, as it's then that he can slowly out box McGregor.

    .

    This is where you are talking rubbish, and contradicting somewhat your assertion that Floyd wins easily and all the while trying to argue hard for Conor to do well and even win.

    You need to realize that Conor has never soaked up any pro boxing offence/experience. That is all you need to know to know that your claim above is rubbish...

    You are forgetting or missing two important areas here.

    1. Judging Floyd on how he looks/performs offensively against pro boxers and using this to suggest how he does against a non pro boxer.

    2. Forgetting that Conor has never had a pro boxing bout, meaning that soaking up any kind of pro boxing offense is very difficult to claim for.

    Just quit the BS and admit that you think Conor can actually win this. You are somewhat confident even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    He's fighting an mma fighter and in the eyes of the boxing public the pressure very much will be on him....... which is precisely why I feel McGregor should fight defensively 'very early on' as if the fight is boring (and it would be if Conor did as I am suggesting) then Floyd will undoubtedly feel pressure to go on the attack.



    Not with McGregor's counter punching it's not..........that sweet left and that reach advantage...... that's where McGregor's slim chance lies at getting a TKO. Mayweather has no offensive attack that McGregor wouldn't be able to soak up easily. He's 40 years old. Which is why I say Floyd would only win easily if the fights goes passed three rounds, as it's then that he can slowly out box McGregor.

    But the first three rounds are an unpredictable dangerzone for Floyd.

    To say that the worst thing for McGregor would be if Floyd took the fight to him is laughable. That's where Conor excels. Ask Jose Aldo all about that.



    I'm not, before someone retorts with anything like the above.

    That would be even worse for McGregor if he does that!

    Your logic is fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Floyd via DQ
    When has Floyd ever cared what people think or expect him to do?
    He isn't gonna go all out out a track just because viewers might want this.
    I'd say this fight has less pressure on Floyd that most of his fights over the last ten years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    I reasoned this and described how that could be achieved. Why are you ignoring it?

    Again: Hatton was far too 'gung-ho'. He almost knocked himself out at one point. I believe Conor should wait for Mayweather to bring the fight to him, perhaps even run from him Floyd a bit early on, fight defensively (play Floyd at his own game) mixed with some counter punching but nothing which would mean that he would have to get too close Floyd. The pressure is on Mayweather in this fight and I think he will be will be more offensive here than we have seen him in any fight before.

    There was nothing "gung-ho" about Hatton... that was just his style. It's just a different style of fighting. (and he was one of the best examples of it imo)

    Many people actually had Hatton ahead on the scorecards coming into the 2nd half of that fight, before the wheels came off. Had he been able to keep that intensity up for the entire fight... who knows... but his lifestyle outside the ring finally caught up with him in the latter stages, and Floyd was ruthless in punishing him!

    Conor doesn't have a fraction of Hatton's boxing ability, and they are totally different animals physically too... I don't really see how Conor could hope to replicate Hatton's fighting style or his workrate. He's just totally different to Hatton.
    If McGregor stands back and isn't offensive to begin with then I think that will make Mayweather think McGregor doesn't have all that much to offer and walk him down.......... THEN I think Conor should unleash like Hatton. I think this kind of awkward mix will frustrate Floyd as he won't know what McGregor will do next and we know that is one area which Floyd has exploited down the years, his ability to read what fighters are gonna do next.

    I can certainly see McGregor being cautious... but if he tries any kind of Hatton style pressuring, he'll be eating a huge amount of leather, and not landing anything! That will be a very quick route to an early finish imo...
    Worth remembering also that Hatton only had a 65" reach whereas McGregor's is 74". So even if McGregor does try and do what Hatton did (in gung ho fashion) he would be far better equipped given that he wouldn't have to get anywhere near as close as Hatton did to do so.

    Hatton liked to fight on the inside... why would he require long reach to fight in that manner?? His reach was perfectly suited to this fighting style!

    If he's not getting close, like Hatton, then he's not really fighting like Hatton... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Maravilla33


    Floyd via DQ
    I wish this fight was tonight so this utter delusion would be over and GGG canelo would be around the corner

    That's nearly the worst thing about this fight. One of the best fights that can be possibly made in boxing is being swallowed up and forgotten about.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    I'd pay ppv to see a stream peoples faces at home after spending a 100$ expecting a fight and it turns into a complete mismatch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    I wish this fight was tonight so this utter delusion would be over and GGG canelo would be around the corner

    Did you watch the video just posted above? In it Mayweather is saying he can't do it no more, that it's grueling on his body......... and so to refer to a 28-year-old McGregor being giving a "slim chance" against that man, a 40year-old as delusion...... well, that's the real delusion, that Mayweather has zero chance of losing here.
    There was nothing "gung-ho" about Hatton... that was just his style. It's just a different style of fighting. (and he was one of the best examples of it imo)

    It was gung-ho. He didn't fight Castillo or Paulie to anywhere near that extent and I think it was a reaction to the ref breaking them apart too much. Each time he seemed to put more and more and into his punches as he no doubt anticipated the ref was abut to pull them both apart again. Ultimately that just helped Mayweather pick him off.
    Conor doesn't have a fraction of Hatton's boxing ability, and they are totally different animals physically too... I don't really see how Conor could hope to replicate Hatton's fighting style or his workrate. He's just totally different to Hatton.

    Ah here, quit picking parts of what I said and replying to it as if it's all that I have said. I never said McGregor should absolutely replicate Hatton's style for the fight and you know that. I have one user replying to me as if I said McGregor should fight defensively for three rounds and then I have others claiming I said he should just fight like Ricky Hatton. Did you all go to the same school of comprehension.

    For the last time: what I said was that McGregor should fight in a way that makes it very awkward for Mayweather to predict which way he is going to fight next. He should fight defensively TO BEGIN WITH but when attacking (either by countering or by taking the fight to Mayweather) it should be a Ricky Hatton style onslaught. McGregor might not be as good as boxer as Hatton, but he wouldn't have to get anywhere near as close to Mayweather as Hatten did to adopt that kind of attack given his reach advantage. Hatton's reach is 65" and McGregor's is 74".
    I can certainly see McGregor being cautious... but if he tries any kind of Hatton style pressuring, he'll be eating a huge amount of leather, and not landing anything! That will be a very quick route to an early finish imo...

    Well obviously if he lands nothing he's fucked.... that's just stating the obvious.... but the slim hope McGregor has of winning by TKO is early on. He's hasn't a hope of outboxing Floyd. In fact, any kind of predictible pattern in Conor's fighting and he's fucked.
    Hatton liked to fight on the inside... why would he require long reach to fight in that manner?? His reach was perfectly suited to this fighting style!

    Had nothing to do with liking it. Hatton had no choice but to fight on the inside with a 65" reach :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Interested to hear the counter arguments against this chap's points:



    The point about the distance between the fighters is intriguing to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Where can you watch tonight's presser?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Where can you watch tonight's presser?

    https://youtu.be/npJdeoYxYGs


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,297 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Interested to hear the counter arguments against this chap's points:



    The point about the distance between the fighters is intriguing to me.

    fyp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Eyes Down Field


    Floyd via DQ
    I can only gathering from reading through the nonsense comments, That most of you idiots have never actually watched Floyd Mayweather in action.

    The greatest boxers on our generation, De La Hoya, Marquez, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, Could not hit this man with a single shot that even momentarily caused him to lose balance.
    Men who have dedicated their lives to perfecting their boxing skills, day after day, blood sweat and tears to become the best. The fastest hands, the hardest hitting, the most skilled. In 12 rounds of boxing could not land a punch on Floyd Mayweather

    And you idiots think a man who has never fought a professional fight at any level can?

    Conor McGregor will not land a single punch on Floyd. Floyd will see anything thrown at him a mile away. Conor's missed shots will leave him wide open to one of the greatest counter punchers ever. Floyd will hit back with a vicious left hook to the chin, followed by straight right to the face. Conor will be stunned and Floyd will unload with a barrage of accurate shot that will either cause Conor to go down or the referee to stop the punishment by calling for the TKO.

    Maybe we see a 2nd round but It won't take Floyd more than 6 minutes to finish him off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    I can only gathering from reading through the nonsense comments, That most of you idiots have never actually watched Floyd Mayweather in action.

    The greatest boxers on our generation, De La Hoya, Marquez, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, Could not hit this man with a single shot that even momentarily caused him to lose balance.
    Men who have dedicated their lives to perfecting their boxing skills, day after day, blood sweat and tears to become the best. The fastest hands, the hardest hitting, the most skilled. In 12 rounds of boxing could not land a punch on Floyd Mayweather

    And you idiots think a man who has never fought a professional fight at any level can?

    Conor McGregor will not land a single punch on Floyd. Floyd will see anything thrown at him a mile away. Conor's missed shots will leave him wide open to one of the greatest counter punchers ever. Floyd will hit back with a vicious left hook to the chin, followed by straight right to the face. Conor will be stunned and Floyd will unload with a barrage of accurate shot that will either cause Conor to go down or the referee to stop the punishment by calling for the TKO.

    Maybe we see a 2nd round but It won't take Floyd more than 6 minutes to finish him off.

    Jasus how's that for confidence in how the fights gonna go. You'll make a bomb off the specials in the bookies :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    It's true that Joe Cortez pulled Hatton and Mayweather apart every chance he got.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    I can only gathering from reading through the nonsense comments, That most of you idiots have never actually watched Floyd Mayweather in action.

    The greatest boxers on our generation, De La Hoya, Marquez, Cotto, Canelo, Pacquiao, Could not hit this man with a single shot that even momentarily caused him to lose balance.
    Men who have dedicated their lives to perfecting their boxing skills, day after day, blood sweat and tears to become the best. The fastest hands, the hardest hitting, the most skilled. In 12 rounds of boxing could not land a punch on Floyd Mayweather

    And you idiots think a man who has never fought a professional fight at any level can?

    Conor McGregor will not land a single punch on Floyd. Floyd will see anything thrown at him a mile away. Conor's missed shots will leave him wide open to one of the greatest counter punchers ever. Floyd will hit back with a vicious left hook to the chin, followed by straight right to the face. Conor will be stunned and Floyd will unload with a barrage of accurate shot that will either cause Conor to go down or the referee to stop the punishment by calling for the TKO.

    Maybe we see a 2nd round but It won't take Floyd more than 6 minutes to finish him off.

    Stop talking sense man.

    Floyd has never fought a guy like Mcgregor.
    One superman punch from Connor and it's game over.


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